31 male here, been lurking off and on over the years but decided it was time to take the plunge. Just looking for an edge in getting the wife in the mood. We have been married for 5 years and She is 27. She had gastric bypass last year and now I have trouble getting her engine started so to speak lol she is still adjusting and hasn’t found the confidence to match her new appearance. so I figured I would give something on androticsdirect a try.
I tried same cheap stuff from Germany I got on ebay
And it seemed to help, but I am not convinced of its quality. It Was called pheroXity xude
I am still researching the best option for my situation, but the amount of information here is a bit overwhelming ahahah
I am thinking TUTH might work since the trust is already there. but suggestions would be appreciated.
If you are looking to promote trust and confidence, then you may want to explore the Instant Shine/Instant Honesty combination first.
This is a good trusting/sharing/bonding mix and the IS steering adds a feelgood/happy and confident air that helps with connection/playfulness on a passionate level.
Then you add-in some TUTH when things are turning more sexual - which serves to drive everything in the right direction.
TUTH on its own can backfire, esp if the woman isn’t feeling very horny/comfortable/good about herself to begin with. Its the chemical equivalent of waving your cock in her face and shouting “SEX - NOW!”
Welcome to the site. I have tried a lot of stuff on ebay thru the years with no luck before finding AD. I agree it can all be overwhelming. Don’t let that discourage you. What I would do for now is take a look at the consumer line and stick with that for now. I say this because they are guaranteed to work if used right. Have you ever thought of getting pheromones for your wife? I ask this because I think some of the women’s pheromones will help your wife out a lot. I think if you could get her into them the women’s kit would be worth looking at and would help you out. It would have IS/A and IS/B which would really help her out with her self esteem and boost her confidence more than anything else especially with IS(Instant Shine) which the women’s kit has included.
The women’s kit has IH and IS which are both universal and work on both men and women. In fact both these are included in the men’s and women’s kit. I think it would be an option to maybe look into the women’s kit as well as men’s for you.
So you could get the women’s kit for her and maybe a bottle of TUTH for you and if you go this route I would get the bigger 30ML TUTH as it is only $30.
If not I would look at the men’s kit and it is more but it will have the TUTH in it and also a lot more like A314 spray.
The IO, IH, IS are universal and all 3 of these work on men and women and both kits will include these.
I bring up getting your wife into them also because when you are married or in a relationship I find these things work so much better if both partners have the same goal and use them together. I am married and my wife and I have had numerous issues and they have helped us out tremendously.
Other than what I suggested I have to go with what Mobocaster suggests.
You sure came to the right place for quality pheromones. For us, “a product that seems to help” is not good enough. All commercial-line AD products come with a money-back guarantee. So you have all to win and nothing to lose. Plus, you can count on the support of this friendly community to help you get started and evolve. Those guys from Germany probably didn’t have that, right ? What you get here is the help of independent real-life daily users of pheromones.
Please tell us more about your personnality and your wife’s.
I agree with Justintime that starting this phero adventure with her would be something great. It will sure help her regain confidence.
You will be eligible for a 25$ gift certificate to help you with your first buy.
about us, we are very “Vanilla”, we don’t smoke ( I puff on a pipe or cigar a few times a year) we rarely drink. we are both natural skeptics (which explains why I lurked here for so long) neither of of us takes things to serious so we literally NEVER fight, and to this day have not raised our voices in anger. both of us are to analytical and logical to let it get out of hand. we never go to bed angry because we only argue over silly stiff like who forgot what and correcting each others recollection of past events lol
we watch allot of cartoons but have no kids. so we spend most of our time off work together at home and don’t really enjoy going out much.
and we are both always well groomed, clean and presentable.
she is a middle school teacher, active, responsible, and claims she is organized but it looks like chaos to me, just messy lol. she is the type that simply knowing about it will make it not work… the placebo effect always works the opposite with her… she is stubborn so I will try it out in secret first, then reveal the results to her later on.
I am a fork lift operator, very organized and laid back and irresponsibly bad with money lol but I am loyal, affectionate and easily trained ahahah
Thanks for telling us about you. Well, you’re all set then . Justin and Mobo gave you awesome recommendations which you can follow to get you started. You should receive your gift certificate soon. It will be dropped in your email by a forum moderator. It usually takes a day or two.
well I went ahead and ordered a bottle of TuTH and IS, I cant justify spending the money on the kit atm, so I just got the two for now.
I am a bit of an amateur perfumer so if my wife gets a good mood boost from the IS I might order a bottle of it Unscented and use it in place of the alcohol when I refill her bottle next month. I am sure I can make slight adjustments the base notes to mask the odor of the raw Pheromones so they completely vanish
thanks for the advise, and I will update later on.
You really did your homework. IS is a good choice to spread the happy vibe first.
Anyway, I just dished your free GC so that whenever you want to place your next order, preferably when the latest A314 oil is available, you’ll have something to cut the expenses.
Happy Pheroing!
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Thank you,
Just being honest but I already received and used my new member gift card, so if you send another it will be a duplicate. While that would be nice it would be in error lol
Also, quick question.
is it possible to buy a mix like IS in a raw undiluted concentrate to add to an existing fragrance?
You’re honest, sure thing . If it passed through the netting, it will be detected if the second certificate is used. They have a crystal ball for that . So you can simply forget that second one.
I believe you can buy IS in unfragranced version (special order), otherwise regular formula, in 30 ml bottle. There is the 1X strength, the 2X strength and 4X strength. Strength means four times the pheros, one time the fragrance. Which means you’ll send out less fragance for a larger amount of mones. But commercial line products are not usually available as raw concentrates. If you use the unfragranced version, you must be a cover scent master, cause there definitely is a stink risk here. And you don’t want people running, right ? Chances are they won’t sell it to a beginner, but it doesn’t harm to ask, I suppose. You should inquire at support@androtics.com for that one.
Nah. I’m the one who issued the GC. It’s just that I posted the welcome response first before checking the carts. You’re quick to the draw!
There’s no raw undiluted IShine. But if I am reading your mind like Conjurator above, then you are possibly looking for unfragranced IShine. Yes it is available, but for experts only. You can try other fragrance with IShine though. Just check this link and choose the fragrance you wanted for your IShine : https://a314.com/
Well it all depends on what the stock fragrance smells like, it may be something i can work with if she doesn’t care for it. My wife and I are very picky with fragrances ahahah so hopefully its something subtle I can cover and customize with ease.
Can you tell me what aroma chemicals and dilution you use in TUTH and Ishine? That Will give me an idea of the direction i should go with it.
And I know you only sell the unscented to experts, but how do we prove our competency in blending and coverup to be eligible?
I’m not authorized to tell. But they’re both in 6% Neroli. Only AMMO has fragrance that is in cologne strength.
You don’t actually have to prove it. In fact, even a non-expert can place an order, and get it without being noticed (it happens sometimes) by the team processing the orders. The warning above (and in the store) is simply a way to remind everyone that customized products (including the unfragranced ones) are not covered by our guarantee.
But if you really believe that you can pull it off, then I guess you can order it. After all, it’s one of the available options in the custom additions page.
About mixing/diluting, although we do not officially endorse it (specially because products like IShine and TUTH are already a complete mix, and thus we do not see any reason for users to dillute it further, other than testing purposes of course), some of the community members have tried doing it, some of them have done it right, and I think a little bit of searching would bring you to the discussion on how to correctly dilute/mix.
We judge your level of expertise (in pheromone testing/usage) by reading your reports filed/posted in the forums.
thank you for all your help and information,
some of the chems in the fragrance I make for my wife are Paradisamide, Ethyl Linalyl Acetate, Pharaone, Damascone Beta and Ethyl Butyrate. they are all very citrus/ fruity, so such a small amount of Neroli wont even be noticeable in a 30% perfume strength fragrance. so I wont need the unscented after all.
another quick question if you don’t mind, I tried the search but haven’t had luck finding the answer.
is the pheromone projection and dispersal affected by any added aroma chemicals?
for instance, if I were to use a large molecule like Iso E Super in my recipe, will it slow the dispersal of the pheromones like it does to the other lighter aroma chemicals?
I can tell you from experience that if you get into mixing it can be awfully expensive and be prepared to waste a lot of product. You can read through my journal and as well as Jdubs and see what I am talking about. We both found it is just much better to order the product and strength you want and use it from the bottle.
thanks, I guess layering is always the safest option.
when I refill my wife’s perfume bottle I was hoping to substitute the perfumers alcohol with the Ishine . I would be adding the 8ml of a fragrance oil mix directly to 22ml of the IShine to make the roughly 30% strength perfume. when I created her signature fragrance, I mixed 3oz of of undiluted fragrance oil for long term storage. this way I can easily dilute and refill her bottle as needed without mixing it from individual chems each time.
this will end up reducing the pheromone potency by the same 30%, but since she uses 2 sprays of the perfume it should still have an effect. if all goes well I will probably purchase the 4x concentrate next time around and dilute to the exact strength I require. that will be about a month from now though, so I might scrap the idea before then ahaha
I see you’ve already placed an order and used your GC. Hope you received it all fine.
Don’t forget to share your test results my friend. You can create your own journal here to keep notes of your dosages and usages, plus its different effects, including those you consider a “failure”. Journal helps a lot. It’s your own phero time machine.
For further questions, you can also create your own help-seeking thread here. Expert pheromone users usually browse this area.
Also, please drop a feedback here or via PM about how the shipping goes for you.
so we spend most of our time off work together at home and don’t really enjoy going out much.