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Hi y’all, just joined this forum. Found it after a friend from Love Scent (you minx, you know who you are) sent me a coupon to this store.

I ordered A314 and Instant Shine, after having used a few gel packets and NPA from “the other site” as you guys refer to it. I’m not really looking for sexual or romantic effects from the pheromones, just looking to add a bit of “oomph” to my overall social life and career. I will likely be switching over completely and starting a blog here.

So what do you guys think of the avatar I made? A little rough around the edges, yes, but that’s me. I’ll polish it up later, and maybe post a short bio. Gotta run.

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deer pee, got to love it.
i was deer pee once, apparently i didnt even know it, but a friend of mine recently told me that like 2 months ago i smelled bad. why i am hearing it NOW i couldnt tell ya,LOL. since then ive minimized/cut-out those particular 'mones but damn why bad things got to feel so good :confused: the stuff here smells amazing for the most part, and if they didnt i wouldnt care because i feel awesome :stuck_out_tongue:

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Hey Lor,
That’s pretty funny, especially because a similar thing just happened to me. A tall “BBW” walked up behind me in line at the grocery store, reached out and pushed me pretty roughly on my shoulder. So I turned around to see what was up- and before I could say anything, she said
“Yo, you STINK, yo.”

I was like “Uh, thanks for telling me.”
“No problem - you just need a shower.”

I was too amused and in shock to ask her what she thought I smelled like. I’m guessing I smelled sort of like my avatar.

Afterwords I made my usual friday trip to blockbuster, where I bought some used DVD’s. (4 for $20) Two women there (white, average size, 1 good looking brunetter in her 30’s, one frumpy brunette in her 40’s) both steered their children away from me and around my aisle the moment they entered it. I was wearing 2 drops of an APC/PI oil combo (on my neck) that I bought at pheromoneoil.com, and I probably won’t wear it again.

I was pretty focused on digging through the DVD’s and was not scoping people out, observing them closely, or staring at anyone. The only thing I think i had done that might have been the least bit alarming, is that I smiled at the kids. (I’m a Dad and I sometimes work in pediatrics, so damn it, I can’t help but smile at little kids.) Anyhow, I also don’t think I was dressed in a way that would have scared anyone off - I was dressed in a dark brown “ringer” T-shirt, Dark Levi’s, and black dress shoes. Shirt was tucked in, also wore a thick black belt from the Gap.

Bottom line, the “stank” is probably what put the fear of Gawd into these womens eyes.

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My bio

This almost a straight-up copy/paste from an old post at LS. I’ve bolded some of the changes i made to that post. Sorry if you’ve seen it already.

My blood-type is O+ .

I’m a “Heinz 57” mix of many races… caucasian(anglo-saxon,slavic and gypsy)/spanish/middle-eastern/miskito indian/black and possibly part chinese. I’m about 3/4 white and 1/32 black As for my natural pheromone output, I’ve recently come to believe that I have a high -none output. Dark skinned black women have always seemed to be attracted to me (though i’m generally not attracted to them), and asian girls are straight up repulsed. (Hey, I’m being honest.) The fit or skinny artsy, goth, or hippy girls I’m most interested in have always seemed non-plussed when I’ve approached them, and I think that’s an image/wardrobe problem.

Physically, Let’s just assume for the sake of argument that I’m a solid 5 on a rating of 1 to 10. I was rated a 3 on “hot or not”, though I think a “friend” of mine had a lot to do with that, as my rating abruptly spiraled down from an 8 immediately after I showed her the photo.

I’m 35, 5’6", 180 lbs and 27% bodyfat. The weight won’t be an issue for long - I am a former bodybuilder. As of 7/28/06 I have already dropped 24 lbs + I know what I’m doing. I’ll be muscular and down to 170 lbs by October but i’m not sure how lean I’ll be.

Last of all, I’m on the rebound from a divorce and though I’m not exactly shy, I’ve recently realized that I also “ain’t got no game” with my typical nice guy, “kicked puppy” schtick. Since nobody knows me here, this is my chance to completely remake myself, if i can pull it off. I’m thinking of cultivating a bit of an edgier pseudo-bad-boy image as I get back into shape (oh and I’m doing that to get back into the martial arts - forgot to mention that). I’m new in town and I’ll need a new wardrobe anyhow, once I lose the spare tire. So why not? I’ve been told that my closet “looks like a LL Bean catalog”. Arghh! So I’m short, fat, AND a fashion disaster! First step: I’ve already tossed out all of the khakis and I’ve decided that Eddie Bauer stores are off-limits.

I’ve also taken a good look at my “wardrobe” this week and discovered this – lots of expensive blue button down dress shirts, lots of cheap jeans that don’t quite fit, green brown and black T-shirts, countless variations of khakis shorts, and I only wear sneakers to work… I change into sandals, dress shoes, or boots when I’m dressed ‘casual’. So I dress something like what’s come to be called “Metro” and wear the color scheme of someone who still thinks he’s in the military.

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Welcome, Gabe. Watch out for that stank. :slight_smile: I’ve had some women give me that response from IFM, but it’s very inconsistent, and I’m quite confused by it.

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Thanks for the welcome Catlord - and yeah, I think APC/Primal Instinct has had an inconsistent confusion effect on a lot of the people I’ve met lately. Then again, it might just be me.

But I’ve finished off that bottle and now I will only be playing with NPA, A314, and IS. S of this moment I think I’ll probably save NPA just for the company of Alpha Males, while I will start using the other pheromones daily and probably won’t have a specific mix for dating. At least not for quite awhile.

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Out of curiosity … what was you ratio on the APC:PI, Gabe? :confused:

Thanks!

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I have no clue. It’s a premixed oil found at pheromoneoil.com

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Welcome Gabe. I can understand that PI is what put the fear of god into these people. Rest assured APC is a good product as it has low androstenone content and is mostly a cologne. I wear it only for the smell and not much else.

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NPA makes me a bigger jerk

I wasn’t quite sure of the mechanisms involved, but APC/PI gives a different response from what I get when I wear NPA. I won’t be buying more APC/PI, and I am waiting on an order of A314 + Instant Shine which i plan on wearing daily, to work. I might wear NPA along with it when I’m going out for the evening, but that’s about the only time I’ll wear NPa from now on.

NPA makes me a bit (more) of a careless jerk, gets automatic respect from almost all males, and seems to make alpha-type females more friendly – actually, “chummy” is a more precise description – no sexual undertones. Those are the types of women I prefer as I don’t have to hold back around them, so this effect is very cool. In my case at least, NPA (and/or my attitude while on NPA) completely turns off the more reserved women, and I don’t mind that effect. I just need to have more self-control (self-censorship?) both when i’m wearing it and on the day after i wear it.

I’ve gradually dropped my dose of NPA down to one small drop, and I have started putting it in my pubic hair in order to make the smell less noticeable. When I put it on my skin, women start sniffing the air, (very obviously and sometimes loudly - as in snorting and looking around for the source) And when I put NPA in my hair I become a real over-the-top jerk and don’t realize it for a day or so.

I ordered my smartmones on friday and dammit I was hoping to get my IS/A314 package today. :frowning: I have one more day of orientation and then will begin to actually interact with my coworkers on thursday. I hope to have the mones by then.

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And I put up yet another avatar, which I think I’ll be keeping for awhile. It was the best I could do with such a small file size to work with and without taking a new photo. (My camera DIED)

If anyone wants me to make custom avatars, I’d be happy to do that in exchange for pheromone samples or custom premixed decants of your favorite pheromone recipes. Just PM or IM me.

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NPA was the culprit?

Actually, now I’m almost 100% convinced that NPA was the culprit. I think it’s too strong for me but effects people in both positive and negative ways. On thursday night i wore 1 drop of NPA in my pubic hair, and went out. No hits, nothing unusual, but i didn’t spend much time around many women. But yesterday I might have gotten some kind of carry-over effect from wearing that one drop of NPA on thursday evening…

Let me preface this by stating that I’ve only been working at this new job since wednesday, so I don’t know these people well enough to say that my observations are very meaningful…

Friday at work I did not have any positive experiences with any of the women I work closely with - their reactions were purely neutral, unemotional, and less positive/enthusiastic than the past few days. One guy (young early 20’s) was stone-cold, seemed to resent my presence and kept at quite a distance from me all day. He hadn’t been like this previously but he was having family problems and wasn’t very happy to begin with, so I don’t know how to analyze his behavior.

The 40ish guy I worked mostly with on friday was more respectful, more professional than he had been but that might be because he’s just getting to know me. The two pseudo-positive hit experiences I had were with attention-craving female sales reps who took me off guard, on two seperate, individual occasions. They were in their late twenties/early thirties, caucasian, thin/attractive, outgoing/friendly and very well dressed. They wandered into our work area, approached me and stood uncomfortably close while asking directions and then acting like they didn’t want to leave. I bumped into one of them in an elevator later on, and she seemed disappointed when we got off the elevator before she did - I had just introduced myself and started to get to know her a little. (I know - I’m a tease. It’s all part of my plan for global domination…) Earlier on in the day my coworker and I had discussed how starved for attention or conversation that the sales reps had seemed. Apparently they don’t do anything but work while on the road, and being in a new town every week with no friends is not very much fun. (Been there, don that, quit after 3 months.) After we got off the elevator, the 40ish guy looked at me and said “Well, she’s obviously very lonely.” :stuck_out_tongue:

So why didn’t these ladies approach anyone else? I don’t entirely attribute it to the pheromones, but can’t rule that out. I was the only 30-something white man in the group, I am fairly approachable (been described as “affable”) and I was in the middle of the group. So my physical position, age, race, and disposition had at least as much to do with their reaction to me. My personal jury on pheromones is still out, but as of this moment I’ve ruled out continued use of APC/PI, NPA, Scent of Eros, Primal Instinct, Perception, and Alter Ego.

I will begin using A314 this week. I apparently accidentally received IH instead of Instant Shine so I can’t wait to receive my order of IS and will not use IH. I can imagine some bad things happening if I wear IH to work and have no reason to use IH socially.

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I assure you NPA is the culprit=) It seems not alot of people around here like to take the time to test out Androstenone (NPA) and make it work for them. It will have some negative effects… but you have to keep some things in mind.

  1. you wanna bang chicks or dudes? If you don’t care about the dudes then go ahead and use -none.

  2. You looking to find your lovey dovey soul mate or do you just want to have your “physical” fun with a chick? If you just wanna have fun then there is no psychological incompatibility with -none =)

As far as your situation there are some things you should keep in mind. Are you normally seen as a physically attractive person to the opposite sex? What I mean is is more than 50% of the time do females look at you like they find you attractive?

Another thing is is that people in the work place may have already established an idea of “who you are to them” and that may build some resistance to your new pheremonal signature.

Then again you could’ve just overdosed and those women just happened to be in their prime for sex. Theres another thing you should keep in mind.. Women who travel are more prone to sex. If she knows she’s gonna be gone the next day, then that relieves the stress of having to be socially involved… that means no social hangups and only room for sexual desire… that means you’ll be fucking her tonight =)

Well that is only if you are that interested =P Glad to hear you’ve tested NPA out, looking forward to any other -none usage you may do.

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I’m not into “dudes” - I don’t swing that way. But I do have to work with them. I think i read one of your posts somewhere about using Oxyclean to wash the stuff off. it might not have been you, but I’m all over that suggestion.

At this point I’m not actively searching for my soul mate, but I am open to that experience. You know, when I think of one night stands these were not the kind of women I would expect that kind of thing from – these are not sleazy, skanky types who just scream “I’m a ho” when you look at them. I would not have minded waking up next to either of them and would have enjoyed their company They took me off-guard and I’m at a financial low-point right now, but the next time I blunder into a “class-A target of opportunity” I will be armed and ready.

I really don’t think so - not physically attractive, at least not initially, and especially not since I’ve become overweight.

I initially thought that this was not the case, but now i’m not sure there isn’t some kind of pre-defined bias. It seems like everyone was fully "briefed’ on me before I started working here. They had all either seen my resume or heard about me, everyone knew the extent of my experience and education, and the military veterans also knew that I was a veteran myself.

I don’t believe that at all. Are you talking from experience? I’ve known many women who travel for a living and they were very vocal about men assuming that these women were all about sex. I think that these ladies had been in town working all week and had nobody to go out and explore with. I’ve been there, and often went back to my own hotel room depressed and lonely at the end of each day - so yes, maybe I’m making an assumption based on my own screwed up experiences. I would have offered to take these women out (both of them) if I had not been 100% broke. Soon I won’t be broke, and I think I will be hanging with lots of sales and technical reps.

I was ready to toss the NPA until replying to this post. Now I think I might save it for my friendly-tour-guide-dates with these reps. I will be wearing A314 and Instant Shine every day, so maybe I’ll have something interesting to report within a few weeks.

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Women do not have to be sluts if they are traveling. Yes I do speak from experience though; I’ve found it easier to get close to a woman just because she was on vacation and “anything could happen.” May not be true for all people, but it really depends on you. The point is that for everyone (or most everyone, may not apply to you) that when you are traveling, you are moving more freely through the world.. and thus you will have less worries than if you were gonna spend time in one area. It just relaxes you and lowers the persons defenses.

NPA is great; but it is not something you should use alone. You should add IS or A314 in a mix with it to take some of the harsh effects out.

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Dude, when we were traveling on business our shields were up full blast. They didn’t drop until our clients facility had faded from the rearview. I think those women wandered into what was a relaxed social oasis, so they didn’t have to be so uptight around us, or at least with me. I think that the fact that my lanyard was from a well-known corporate vendor but my name badge indicated that I was with the facility (and my scrubs were different from everyone elses) probably had a lot to do with their comfort level. That may be why they didn’t want to leave - they could let their shields down for a second, and may have mistaken me for a sales rep, too.

And these ladies were definitely not there on a vacation. Powersuits, heels, full-on makeup, killer perfume – heck, that explains why they didn’t approach any of my femal coworkers. They’d have been scalped! Yeah, now I’ve convinced myself that the pheromones had little if anything to do with their behavior. I was the only safe, approachable choice for them. :roll_eyes:

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Apparently you must not have the traveling sense down. When I travel I consider myself more of a traveler that is not afraid to explore. Things like experiencing difference cultures and opening myself up to anything that could come my way.. even if it is on the job. Nope, no shields =)

But you are probably right about the familiarity factor with those women. I wouldn’t discount the mones though… especially if it is androstenone… because that crap either makes or breaks ya.

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If I were on vacation, the shields would come. But I’ve traveled too much in my life to get much enjoyment or novelty out of it. Looking forward to settling down and never traveling again, in a couple of years.

Occam’s razor is leaning me towards familiarity over pheromones.

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Heh.. must be an age difference or something. I’m still pretty young, though if I was rich enough I’d travel and party until I got burnt out on it.

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There are many people my age and older who feel the same way that you to, so it’s not my age.

I think it’s more a matter of accumulated experiences combined with personality. I’m not easily excited, so if I’m going to travel somewhere, it’s to experience something specific, something extreme or native to that place, not just to go there and see things. But I don’t have to travel to have most of those experiences, so why bother? (ie Rock Climbing, Mountain Biking, Surf Fishing, Surfing, Skiing - don’t have to be done in an exotic location)