New to all of this

Hi everyone! To start out, I am a complete newbie to pheromones. I am a man in my mid-twenties and of Asian decent living in the Bay Area (CA). For most of my life, I have been mostly shy, but once anyone gets to know me, I am quite outspoken and very sarcastic (jokingly so). In the past few years, I have, by chance, made many good friends and we all go out to social events together (happy hours, bars, clubs, etc).

Long story short: Male, Asian, mid-twenties, Bay Area California. Never was outgoing or social in school and currently working. Personality is shy, but underlying personality (with friends) is very jokingly sarcastic. I want to gain more respect, recognition, and visibility at work. I want to work on my game and social skills (women, but people in general) at social events, clubs, bars, etc. I have a LTR and want to lower stress and spice things up. I am NOT looking for miracles! I just want a helping hand in my own pursuit in life. Below is a more detailed story and better explanation. I listed questions all the way at the bottom.

For myself, I would always be a bit timid. Mind you, I was not a social or out-going fella in high school or college. My friends would break the ice and do introductions to get the conversation started. Often times, I can keep the conversation going, but I can only do so much with one-word responses. Over time, I have gotten more confident and better skilled at handling social events. Fast forward a few years and now I am in a long-term relationship and only go out every once in a while. I am happy to be in a LTR, but I am only disappointed because I feel I never really got to develop my social skills enough.

I have always been interested in the chemical interactions between men and women and wondered how this can be used in everyday life. I was lucky enough to stumble upon this site recently and have been doing about a day’s worth of reading (not all at once, of course). I have 3 scenarios I am looking to improve using phero products:

1. Work: I feel under-valued and often times ignored by my manager. While I did get a promotion recently, it was only after 3 long years of hard work (2 of which were not with him). I do more work than one of my colleagues who joined after me, yet he is in a much higher-valued position with a ton of visibility. Basically, when my colleague saw our manager’s list of resources (people) assigned to future work, he asked, where is Key? My manager’s response was, “Oh…”. I don’t know what was said after that.

2. Social Setting: I am not looking for one-night-stands. I want to work on my social skills and test if my game can be improved. I want to be able to attract women in general, but also want to be recognized and admired in a social setting. This also applies to friends I hang out with.

3. LTR: I am just looking to spice things up, like getting her in the mood more often or lift her spirits around me. We aren’t in a bad position, but lots of stress in our separate lives tend to strain things in our relationship together. The spirit should be more up-lifting and open, like Red Bull lol.

Questions:
1. I am thinking A314/IS/IO for work, Ammo/IH/IS for social events, and TUTH/IS for LTR. Is this a good start? Obviously, I don’t know my sweet spots yet.

2. What does Ammo smell like? Is there the same or similar pheromone like Ammo, but low/non-fragrance (is TUTH the same as Ammo without scent)? I have a sensitive nose to colognes, so I want to use my own cologne instead. It’s soft and rather weak, so something like Axe smell would overpower it easily.

3. The claim that Asian males tend to have low -none pheros because of the ethnicity and body hair makes sense to me. Does Ammo have more -none than TUTH? Should I use these two together?

4. Are IO and IH available in 30 mL spray bottles?

5. Are there ever sales for the store? I’ve calculated all the ones I want and as a first time buy, it would cost nearly $300! Of course, I’m buying 30 mL bottles for some rather than just the TO-GO. Hopefully I won’t have to return any. The major one is Ammo, depending on how it smells.

Anyway, looking forward to a long amazing relationship with all of you! :wink:

-Key

Woah, woah, woah…!!! You’ve pulled all the stops in your intro post haven’t you!!! :smiley: Welcome to the mone forum!

You have some excellent combinations in mind, depending on the social environment which tells me that you’ve put quite a lot of thought into your mone selections. I’d recommend you start out with IShine, IO and IG. I like that IShine is a versatile mone package that you can use for all the settings you mentioned. It get’s me in a content mood with others feeling relaxed about me. I think the IO will help out in just bubbling forth of conversation. With the IG, it’ll be the cool guy, leader of the group vibe with a bump in self confidence, though, IShine may also give that bump in confidence…

All of the above are 6% cologne strength and AMMO is 20% cologne strength. AMMO is a confident, sexy man vibe that can be steered by your attitude and gives me a feeling comfortable to be in my own skin kind a vibe.

If you start with a couple or a few, you can see what they actually do for you and those around you. For IG, as an example, you can easily steer it to a more social/sexy/serious vibe…

Thanks for posting such an extensive and complete intro. How’d you find this site, BTW? The usual suspect… ???

Hi Key,
Im BUILD-O, im new here as well. I just wanted to welcome you and say good luck with your experimenting.

Hey Key,

I think you should definitely go for A314. but initially when you start at work just go with 1 drop for and gradually move towards your sweet spot. an initial high dose wold make people find you in-congruent with the signal.

Use IH with A314 at work… people will connect with you better. instead of yappitty yappitty of IO, you get deeper conversation with IH. helps you connect better with your colleagues.

AMMO has more none than tuth. ammo is deigned as a social wear while tuth is sexual without any ambiguity. since you are in a LTR, tuth and shine is excellent for ramping up your sex life

AMMO + IS would do fine for social events… you can even add a drop of A314 or a spray of IH to go with it.

Hi Keyone

Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

Yes it sounds like you have done your homework. Those are great picks for those situations. I would just change the LTR to TUTH/IH. IH produces a deeper connection and feeling of intimacy.

Ammo is a cologne and tuth is carried in a neroli scent. They dont have the same scent but I think you can special order Ammo in neroli. The neroli drys down light and fresh and easily blends or is covered by other colognes. Depends on how you apply.

Pheromones in themselves are not unscented. They dont smell good. Unfragranced is not suggest for new users who dont know how to mix and bind the scent to the mones. The scent is part of the diffusion and sillage process. AD is working on some stealth scents in testing so that may not be a problem for long.

No Ammo and TUTH have the same amount of anone in them however they are buffered and enhanced by different other pheromones to produce there desired effect.

At this time they are only available in 30 ml with a special request. You have to call the office to check availability.

No rarely do they have sales. You can earn points with the first responder bonus explained here >>>

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greeting-new-members-first-responder-bonus/913

For every dollar you spend in the store you get 10 points. 100 points = $1 so you can get discounts this way as well.

They tend to send freebies in your orders as well.

Sometimes they have special promotions which they announce in the store section.

Never seen a “sale” though.

We looking forward to seeing you in the forum. If you have any more questions or need help ask.

Tisha

Hi 1Alpha! Thanks for your response - wish I could mark them all best answer! I was considering IG, but I was thinking that A314 should help in that aspect. I found this site randomly while searching online. I remember hearing or reading about pheros before, but never found anything real. By chance, I stumbled upon this site in my search! I almost ignored it cause right above the result had Google Ads with this site too. I sometimes think the ads are all scams.

Hi Build-O! Thanks! I’ll report what I find eventually :slight_smile: Good luck to you too! Did you end up purchasing things? If so, what did you buy?

Thanks Aghor! Those were some combos I was looking into. I will definitely start off small - Not like those people who spray on Axe body spray like they were chasing a mosquito or something. Stinks up the whole locker room… I’ll probably ask the store if there is Ammo with only the 6%. I might get that instead unless it’s much more expensive :frowning:

Hi Tisha! Thanks for your detailed reply! I will definitely take your suggestions under consideration. I was reading the store feedback section and saw people complaining about the excessive price hike of IH. Too bad, I might have to hold off for now :frowning:

Welcome to pherotalk Keyone!

I think with when it comes to changes like raised prices ppl will be concerned but I wouldn’t see it as them complaining so much as voicing their concern.

Our Operations manager has tried to explain to the best of his ability what is going on behind the scenes. Hope this thread helps and remember your feedback and concerns is important to us always

Your gc was issued!:slight_smile:

Thanks Mickaelia! I’ve already stumbled on the thread voicing concerns. I’m glad I was able to get some info on restock. How do I get the GC anyway lol?

You should have gotten the GC code to input it during your order process. Check your email box or the spam/junk folder to see if it was gobbled up in transit… :slight_smile:

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Hi ,I am new in this forum,I hope I will enjoy my stay…

If you haven’t already done so, I’d suggest you start up your own intro thread to qualify for a GC to try out the mones… :slight_smile:

You can click here to start one up…

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=12