Hey my name is drew I am totaly new to this mone thing and quite frankly Im a bit skeptical. Ive been doing research and There are a lot of web sites out there saying that there mones are the best and contain real mones and with more potency. So I dont know. I dont even know if that stuff works if its just a placebo effect.
I guess my goal would be to get chicks and close more deals at work. Im 39 but i dont think i look it. most people say Im good looking but I guess socially im not the best. I dont know.
Hello and be welcome here as a new member of our fantastic community !
Good to see you joining in 
No worries .. beeing new to this Pheromone thing is not bad … we all had to start at some point ..
have to admit that a few years has passed by since i´ve bought my first Pheromone Product 13 years past
You´re absolutely right about all those websites that post some fake reviews .. state about some illegal concentrations .. the highest concentration by law …
women running and beeing all over you .. ahhmm yes i know ..
When you look at the large forum … you can clearly see that you´ve found a very good place ..
AD offers the broadest pallette on Pheromone products on the market .. and is the most innovative company ..
they have be best consumer Service … and the fastest shipping … a riddicoulous money back guarantee …
and they even offer a 25$ welcome GC for newbees …
i´m sure you´ve already read about it
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934
for some good suggestions we need the data you´re questioned in this guide anyway …
i´d like to know more about your social skillz … you say you´re socially not the best … ( there´s some help on it´s way )
how good would you rate them on a scale from 1 to 10
Assume … 1 is " when i come people leave "
5 is " I´m neither good nor bad "
10 is " i enter people gather around "
you say you need the mones to get some chicks … where do you see the sticking points in your Game ?
what are your stengts … what are your weaknessess …
well …
there are many products that will work for you … ( i know what will work your age as i´m 38 … btw .. my girlfriend is 20 )
— to feel better
**you should consider to get some Instant Shine … it will give you an upbeat mood and people will consider you are more vital and younger .. and it makes you and the people around you feel good
****— to get girls attracted **
well in the first place there´s Ammo to consider … it´s a well rounded mix that you can wear either at clubbing ..or at bars … or when you don´t work into a very formal company … you can wear it at work
women will consider you the sexy guy … ( not the horny one .. )
— to get more deals at work
there are two options …
… first and best option would be A314 .. it´s the status product … people will value your opinion a lot .. it´s the high status product …
it´s as well very modular ..it combines fantastic with all other products from the instant line ..
A314 looks a bit expensive from the first sight … but i tell you it´s worth every penny
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A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314**
… next option would be Instant Gentleman …
it´s like the younger brother of A314 … it has the same status effects .. but more in a charming way … not that intimidating like A314
that´s the weapon of choice if you have a somewhat sensitive Boss
I always recommend some conversation enhancers as well …
everybody wants to communicate good .. and you know … once you fail to communicate you can forget the rest ..
— Instant Honesty .. will make people trust you more …and it deepens conversations ..and it´s bonding ..( that´s good for dates )
— Instant Openness is the conversation generator … it works as well as a good icebreaker … it makes people talk and talk …and talk ..
well that´s a lot of stuff for now ..
let´s look a bit into some PUA - stuff
what i like very much is The Gambler … he has a fantastic website and alone the free stuff there will take you miles further in your game
if you´re more into NLP … check Ross Jeffries … he has a lot of free stuff out as well..
and last but not least … read some books about body language …
Tracex Cox is a good one … or David Givens … ( i´ve read them all )
or for general … this book is a must read !
What everybody is telling by former FBI Agent JOE NAVARRO
soo here´s some homework ..hehe
read this one ... Pheromone F A Qs
and read the stickies … over at the male forums and here at the intro board
o.k.
Now it´s up to you to get the balls rolling ..
Pago
Hi there drew,
Its pretty normal to be sceptical.As long as you test them out with an open mind,im sure it will be fine.This place is pretty good as everyones helpful and friendly and the service is really good.They usually throw in a free gift with your purchases.Generally i dont trust any site that makes outrageous claims like you will be an instant chick magnet and girls will run after you.Usually pheromones will help set the mood and give you a better vibe similar to how good body language does.They help but they dont override free will or replace decent social skills.A lot of people but tuth expecting women to run to them and jump on them but they are about 20% of the equation,you still have to do the talking and make the effort.This links pretty good on explaining the possible effects you can get with pheromones and whats impossible.Its definitely not placebo but a lot of the effects can be pretty subtle and you have to keep an eye out for them.You also might want to look into some books on pickup or conversation like david deangelo and leil lowndes as they work the best with good social skills as the pheromones make it easier,then you take advantage of it(^_^)
What pheromones can do and what they cant Updated
In any case,androtics believes in their products a lot and gives you a 25$ gift certificate for your introduction.This will let you try a couple of the products in to-go’s pretty much risk free for testing.You will have to give a bit more information about your personality and social skills to qualify though,as well as to get better advice.This link gives more information for the requirements.
How do I qualify for a $25 gift certificate? (https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934)
For dating you could give,ammo and instant shine a try.Ammo gives you a sexy cool vibe and mixed with instant shine which gives a vibe of confidence and makes people around you happier is a very good mix to start off with.Can throw in some instant openness as an icebreaker if you want people to be more chatty or instant honesty on dates for more bonding.For work,instant gentleman or a314 are pretty good.Instant gentleman is probably easier to use first off as its a lot more relaxed and can transition to a314 when you want something stronger or you could jump right to a314.One of those paired with instant honesty is pretty good for closing more deals.I added in a couple of stickies below which makes good reading before making your first purchase.All the best and hope thing go well for you and im sure you will have a good time here(^_^)
An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of
Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies
The Snook’s big book o’ pheros for rookies
Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction (Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction)
What works: BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc)
ok cool.
Hey dude I’ll be sharp and to the point.
The products you’ll be looking at are
- A314
- IG
- IH
- TUTH
- Ammo
- P74 (although its not recommended that new users use the putatives I believe this is a must have for every business user that buys A314)
- P79 (to complement P74 but unfortunately is out of stock at the moment)
A314 gives a self-confidence boost effect and also projects your presence onto others when your signature comes into smelling range of others. It might prove a little intimidating, though so IH and products like IS might be good complements to reduce the intimidation. The product also contains some none (short for androstenone) which is meant to incite attraction in females. There are users who use this product purely for attraction purposes to attract high status women.
IG is basically A314 without the intimidation and none. Its calm and cool. A mature but non-aggressive vibe. Useful for business and around girls with daddy issues (just kidding 
). Its considered a lighter version of A314 by many.
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The mones in IH create a sense of bonding and trust. This will serve you well in gaining the comfort and trust of girls around you as well as getting clients and colleagues to trust and bond with you. This works well with A314
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TUTH is a sexual product meant to attract women. I’ve gotten hits from women while on TUTH between the age range of 30-40. Proceed and use with caution though, too much of it on yourself might bring across the vibe of a horn dog. Do adequate research before dousing yourself in the stuff
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Ammunition. This is a sexy status product. While TUTH is “sex”, Ammunition is “sexy”. Ammunition gives a confidence boost to the wearer (if A314 makes you feel alpha, this one makes you feel a little aggressively charming) and is meant for overall attraction for girls. Some users use it at work for the status effects as well as the vibe it gives off, men react to low doses of ammunition in a state of respect. It perfectly complements this other product called mx297 which I’ve taken to testing also at work, you can do a search and read a couple of my reports on that mx.
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P74 is an excellent product. A stand alone molecule. It encourages bonding and cooperation. Its similar to IH but while IH works well for bonding through and with communication, P74 works on a more subconscious note. Do a search and read up on P74 and if you do get it test it. Its a perfect complement to A314 for business use
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P79 enhances and boosts P74, unfortunately, out of stock.
Have fun buddy, this trip’ll be fun. You won’t regret it.
hey thanks for the replys I would say that my social skills are a 5 but who knows. im much better when im drunk because i feel weird approaching girls some times. I guess s its cause im attracted to the really young and hot ones so then i think they are out of my liege. But they shouldnt be cause just about every day people tell me i look like Val Killmer when he was younger (and blonde) . lol… i dnt mind cause he’s not a bad looking guy. But then why dont i have a girl in my bed every night? aawwwww theres the rub..
I also work as a salesman and I would like to close more deals.. As i said I am sceptal about this whole thing so the fact that they offer some nones for free is a good thing… 
Buy mx297 and ammo. You’ll see self effects instantly. An increase in social skills and social attraction with people
Do some searches
if you are the average shy guy who is fine otherwise but would like some social confidence .. lets say rock a party… then try MX297+Heavy AMMO + instant Shine.
I suggested Heavy AMMO for you since you are 39. heavy AMMO is nothing but AMMO double strength.
For work.. I would suggest A314 + IH
IH is good for bonding and when combined with A314 it generates tremendous amount of trust.. ideal for those in sales
Another good thing, shipping should be quick too, Androtics is based in L.A.
Welcome to pherotalk Gash!
I know that you got amazing advise from my team and also from talking to Steve.
I hope that you share your experiences with us when you start testing.
Your gc was issued!
Hi thanks for all the advice. I just got my order this morning. Only 2 days after ordering. To bad i didnt get it yesterday cause i went out last night. but im sure gonna use it this weekend. Hey thanks for the free gift. I understand it is a social one mx422. Ill post my results.
ok I bought ammo, io, tuth, is, A314. how should i use these? also is it possible to od on any of these? I also got an mx422. I dont know how to use this one either. can some one please help me?
Depends on you really, I suggest working your way up on the amount you use, to find what best compliments you. You could try mixing the others, I believe there’s a post somewhere on here with a chart of the combinations.
You should probably try them out one at a time and find the dosage/sweet spot for each product that fits you.Then once youve found it you can start mixing them.The only ones you can od on are ammo and tuth usually.A314 might get a little intimidating at high doses though.The socials are pretty safe but people might get very talkative if you go for a high dose of io but not really a bad thing.Dont have mx422 so cant really say but its a social one so just test it out and find your sweet spot for it and report your findings(^^)These links have very good information on application points and how to find sweet spots.The color chart has possible combinations but its up to you really.Just use them according to the situation(^^)All the best and have fun testing them out.
An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of
How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum
Phero color chart by MuskCloud: a visual guide to choosing mixes
Do cigarettes nullify the affect at all?
Not really nullify,but they could reduce the effects a bit.