Hello everyone, I am new to this whole scene and it is nice to meet you all. I was actually recommended to look into it from a friend of mine. Reading through the forums of course before I made a post but here is my story. I was set up on a date from my friend. Me and this woman hit it off and talked for a while. Time went on and whatnot and we grew closer, believe it or not nothing sexually happened as she stopped before we reached that point. She told me a lot about herself. Her story is that she had terrible relationships in the past ( havent we all) and she wanted to take things slowly as a friend to get to know me. I was fine with that. My concern is that she has a growing desire to live a single life and not be in a relationship. I will be honest in saying that I am a model type looking guy with a great toned build, and my personality captures people around me as I am an outgoing and light hearted guy who can be serious and dependable. I am financially stable and we are both in our early twenties so I know cases like this are commonplace but I have been around and back at this point since I was about 12. However, this woman is not budging even though she shows signs that she wants to and she is afraid. We do contact each other every day, but I am someone that has a way with words. This is current and over an 8 month period so far. I will admit that I like her greatly and she shows signs that yes she is looking my way but she has a fortress around herself. As a man, my sexual urges are off the scales at this point to say the least but I would want for her to open up to me and let everything just happen. I believe that friendship is important for any relationship, and I can say that the relationship we have is not something stuck in the friend zone as she knows full well my intentions and often times is the first to contact me and often admits that she is the one at fault as to why its this way and apologizes etc. As someone who has been around and seen whats out there, for a guy looking to have a bit of something more and seal the deal, anyone have any thoughts or suggestions as to anything that could help? Pheromone or even on a general scale? I was reading about A314 but I could use a little advice. It is kind of an awkward scene. Thanks.
She sounds like she needs to open up a bit more and be more comfortable with you.
you can’t go wrong with instant shine.
and some IO, IH to feel more comfortable talking. CTTM2 is available in a to go and I hear that is supposed to work well. basically it’s like equal parts the mones used in IO and IH.
a314 is awesome but you definitely want to buffer it more with the above mentioned mones.
As a first time user try ammo to start with the others as buffers.
And also post in the new users section- you can get a 25 gift certificate too.
You ever have to getup early for something and knowing you did you stayed up late?, then hit the snooze button the next morning a time or two…only to realize now you’re way behind schedule and you jump out of bed like there was a snake in it with you?
Humans tend to lag and flake on a lot of things, we always assume there’s still time…and to a degree there is. There’s always more time…until there isn’t. You playing the patient, no pressure guy is very nice of you…nice. You’ve already given her too much time imo. And being the understanding patient guy is only enabling her to drag this situation along longer than it really needs to be.
Now laying it too hard on the line and throwing down an ultimatum will only put her on the defensive about her feelings and enforce the frame that YOU want a relationship more than SHE does. So she’ll most likely throw a counter ultimatum of her terms being her terms and you can accept that or walk away. You could call her bluff but you’ll probably find that while she meant it as a bluff her pride won’t allow her to back down.
You’re best option, and this is no guarantee by any stretch. But the last thing people tend to want is…getting what they say they want. She knows you’re interested, and she wants to either just be friends, or make you wait indefinitely until she sorts her head out…problem is she thinks she has all the time in the world, you gotta show her that she does..until she doesn’t. Continue being her friend, don’t be a dick to her by any stretch, but from time to time, be unavailable. Given your self description getting a date shouldn’t be an issue. Go out with other women. You sound like you genuinely care about this woman so let me clarify, I’m not saying go fuck other women, just go out, spend some time having fun with other women. This should help create the moment when you open your eyes and see the clock and it’s “OH SHIT I’M RUNNING LATE!!” moment. She’s got to realize that she doesn’t have all the time in the world and it’s unfair and unrealistic of her to expect you to wait forever for her. It’s been 8 months already, If you guys had slept together on the first date, she’d be about ready to pop out a kid by now…just to give perspective on how patient you’ve been.
Now, if she IS actually attracted and interested in you as more than a friend, this will set off alarm bells that should get her to forget about her period of mourning. If she just see’s you as a friend and won’t say so, then she’ll be a little disappointed that she won’t have 24/7 access to you when she wants to talk, but otherwise she’ll be happy for you that you’re going out and meeting new people.
When you DO spend time with her, stick with the basics, nothing too fancy.
A314 for a high status high value successful man vibe…say two drops
Ammo, or MX301, I prefer 301 myself. One spray should be fine, you can do up to three imo but work up to that.
Instant honesty…if you go with 301 just use one spray as 301 already has beta nol in it. Two sprays if you go with Ammo.
And Instant Shine…two or even three sprays should be good.
This combo communicates status, attraction, connection, and charisma…let it sink in by wearing it around her a few times, and when word gets to her that you were seen by mutual friends having dinner with some girl…well now you’ve established yourself as a commodity that she might just lose if she doesn’t hustle.
radman- damn i feel so beta around you. lol.
Nah man, I’m just old enough and had my own heart broke enough times (same as any guy) that I noticed the patterns in the chaos.
dude, if you are a model looking and financially secure, go try to get laid with other girls, instead of getting sexually frustrated. It shouldn’t be that hard. What is keeping you stuck in this one that is not willing to give it up?
Wow I really do appreciate the help and the responses I have been given so far. But I agree, she has to hustle. Thanks a lot.
Honestly, it isnt hard for me at all to go out with other friends, and women get tossed at me daily, but me trying to be good and understand her situation makes this whole thing hard as hell for myself. Knowing about how she has been stabbed in the back and whatnot is what keeps me from being a beast, and because of the fact that I really do like this girl plays a role. At this point its not even about her giving it up ( even though it would be great and I am going nuts about that ) , but its more about her looking my way, letting go of her past, and realizing what I am about.
Sorry to hear that man. It’s always the case. As a guy that lives over in NY, I have had my share of things and so have the friends around me, but it is what it is.