Newbie here! How do I Turn a flirting friend into a seduced/horny friend?

Hi guys.

So here the deal. I am new to the forums, so dont know much stuff.
I work at papa johns( make alot of pizza lol). One of the girls I work with likes to flirt alot, (well actually all) so i guess i wont need any instant shine for her right? How do I take all of her flirting energy and turn it into Horny energy?? :stuck_out_tongue: I mean what sprays should I buy or what mixes.

Right now I have no sprays. So any suggestions would really help.

Also what are the basics that I should have?

Is it a good idea to buy those small portable sprays first and try which ones work best and then buy the big ones or what?

Please help!! LOL

I would try ammo ..
though if she is not attracted I suspect the task to change the way she sees you is not easy (though for this purpose EST was suggested as an addition to a mix for this purpose I believe not so long ago)..

Order two or three well photographed books on sensuous massage, ask her to look through them and tell you which one she thinks is best, then tell her you just happened to have purchased some great organic massage oil to go with the scented candles and new age ambient music…:smiley:

Hi Pm

The to-go bottles are good to start with this way you can test things out and see what you like the best.

I think you should defiantly get Ammo. Its a good all round sexy mix and is good for around your age group. Consider some IO and IH. For you I am thinking IH, she is probably chatty already if she is flirty so IH will make conversations more intense and deep. You need to get past the flirt to get to the good stuff. This is why I suggest more deep convo’s.

Shine is good for mood enhancing but it can be used with other products to tweak the effect a little. Ammo and shine together will sometimes make the mix lean more toward sexual so its still something to consider.

Tisha

Very good advice, tacitus. I have been giving massages since I was about 7 and can testify massages work beautifully. Take things slow and focus on her during the session and you will find the experience very rewarding. Better still, take a couple of lessons. That way, you can just take the lead. Some people don’t know what they want by looking at the books/pics. Besides, I find checking the books every 5 mins kills the flow and sensuality.

yeah.. I meant look through the books first and see what looks good… then invite her to practice with you.. I was at Esalen as a younger guy… before the HIV problems (herpes was the big issue back then…)

Anyway… Esalen was filled with the most ungodly sexy older women and you could week long massage and sensuality classes… yes, really, truly… with these voluptuous creatures and when they said full body… boy, no kidding full body, like slather up your hot body with sacred oils then glide their bodies all over yours from head to toe… yeeeowwww… so freaking PAGAN ! And you’re having a five day long “learning experience”… uhhhhh, yes, you were… indeed you were…

How freaky?.. OK… There is this girl they sort of paired me up with, and she is smoking holy killer beautiful, half stunning italian, half stunning california, we’re both 23 and hot as firecrackers and just click together on some esoteric personal level, she had the most perfect smooth skin and the blackest, densest pussybush I ever saw, like a Japanese ukio-e ink painting… and oh yow, she was there with her mom, who was also sexy enough at about 40 to knock you right over… every guy in the place was half nuts to have sex with both of them, or one of them…

For their own reasons they tuned all these guys out and wanted to hang out with me… I think this is because in spite of all the macho posturing, naked guys walking up to them one after another with half hard ons to have “conversations”, I was maybe the only guy there who wasn’t gunning for them, I actually wanted to hang out and just be…

So I got to massage this GODDESS up on the sundeck above the hot tubs with a gaggle of crazed guys buzzing around trying to fire off the alpha energies… I’m pondering, HOW did I get this girl to be my massage buddy ? Mmmmmm…

So she’s massaging ME a little later and her mom (also buck nekkid) is standing right next to us, I’m on my back, and I get a raging hardon (23, right?) and she keeps on massaging me and thinks it’s cute and her mom is giggling and thinks it’s cute and I’m telling myself if I lose control and come, I’m going to throw myself off the cliff into the Pacific Ocean…

To make a long story short… erotic massage became a life calling after that…:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Just a word of caution. BE CAREFUL ABOUT APPROACHING THE MASSAGE SUBJECT AT WORK! We recently had our yearly Sexual Harassment refresher, and it seemed like all the videos and discussions kept coming back to massage. No matter how flirty or open the girl is, don’t take it as a green light to do anything that could even be slightly construed as sexual harassment while on the job.

Try to get her out of the work environment. Conversations with a little help from mones can facilitate that. Only then can you try to… er… turn up the heat.

-D4

“Work” is like a ‘nother planet… you have to be more careful than careful… was informed that there is a active industy based on predatory litigation… the um, person running the scam usually has a lawyer set to go… then said person begins to broadcast signals to his or her workmates that suggest… ahh… possibilites. THEN the hapless other person, not realizing this is a set up, makes a move and the professional victim immediately files a sexual harrassment complaint. DO NOT CRUISE your workies unless you are prepared for one friggin’ expensive lawsuit (goes double triple if you’re in a management position)… DO NOT ASSUME that all hot workie signals are innocent play.. There are hardcore pros that have got the sexual harrassment gig down to a science. IF you think you are being set up, 1. report it immediately to a supervisior or manager (the one who reports first has the greatest chance of prevailing…) 2. Write out a detailed account of the events and HAVE IT NOTORIZED by a non-company notary, it is essential that the notary not be associated with the company… 3. Turn in one copy and keep one copy for yourself in safe deposit box.

I know of one company that was set up to the tune of 2 million dollar sexual harrassment charge (this is what she demanded to make the problem go away)… sadly for her, two differrent employees had notarized statements on file… she and her stiletto heels hit the road and didn’t return…

Good god men pay attention ROFL.

He has to go out with her first. Then give her a massage. Jeez if one of the guys at work asked me to practice massage with them and I never dated them or something I would tell them to Get bent ya freak. Masaging and work dont mix. :wink:

After you are dating or at least seeing each other out of work its different. Then reach for the stars and attempt a tacitus :smiley:

Ah, Le Amor. The ever enduring persuit of the male to find that one female whom could be Ms. Right or Ms. Rightnow. If you are trying to just get laid, then stay away from work. Your place of work should not be a place of debauchery. A one night stand can make work very uncomfortable. My suggestion, unless you want to date her for a long time, don’t do it. Look elsewhere to release your whatever.

Now if you are planning on dating her and going serious, then do ammo with Instant Honesty. Find out what her needs are, what her desires are, how she catagorizes information (i.e. is she auditory in speaking “I hear what you are saying” “I can hear that” “That sounds good” “I like the sound of that” “It just sort of rang true”, visual in movement “Did you see that” “How does that look” “I see what you mean” (these are ussually accompanied with plenty of handgestures), or kinesthetic in understanding “I can understand that” “It felt right” “I just feel down” “I felt this vibe from this guy that just -umph-, you know, hit ya hard with that, you know? I don’t know, it just felt…you know…that kind of -umph- sort of thing, you know?”), what are her friends like? Her friends are kind of important, besides the ussual moral support thing, but you can glean as to how she views herself. Hanging out with extremely popular and pretty girls and is extremely flamboyant in all her movements almost to the point of exaggeration can suggest a person who needs to be the lime light sort of person. This kind of person I avoid or ignore since all they want is attention and will discard me or you at anytime to get the next best deal. A person who has the same movements and attitudes, but hangs out with women who are not pretty or popular ussually have a low self esteem, and use their “friends” as a platform to make themselves look better.If they are more out going at work then they are in private, these people ussually have secrets and I would leave them be. They ussually want to seperate their social lives from their work lives.

Once you find out what kind of person she is, be it auditory, kinesthetic or even visual, ask her what her type of mate is. Now don’t say mate, but you could ask, “Hey I was wondering, you do a lot of flirting, but you can’t possibly be looking for a guy that flirtatious, can you? I mean what is your dream guy? I know we joke around about it a lot, but what do you look for in a man toy?” Here’s an example dialogue…

“Oh you know, I just want a guy that just…sweeps me off my feet. Kind of like that knight in shining armor. Where he wraps you up in his warm arms and you feel all safe and cozy. And he’s got to be hot. If he’s not hot, then no go. I don’t know, you know? When I meet him, I’ll know, it’s just one of those things that’s got to click with me.”

She just confessed to being attracted to a man that fits kinesthetic, visual, kinesthetic, visual, kinesthetic. So a guy who wants to date her has to fulfill those obligations first in order to get enough repore to date her. I suppose I would respond with:

“Yeah I understand that, that feels about right. I can see you falling for that kind of guy, and when you do, everything will just…you know…click. You can see the two of you hanging out and going places, and just all around laughing it up.” This will develope enough repore that I can have a serious conversation with her and not be left in the fun time flirtatious mode. I want HER to talk to me…not her front. I can even deepen the repore if I match her verbage, word usage, and even some hand gestures. I would then redirect those statements to being fulfilled by me. I could probably used some Erkisoninan Commands to help with that, but different strokes for different folks.

One more thing…please be sincere. I’m tired of all the horn dogs in the world that just end up breaking the hearts of women who don’t desserve it. If you are going to date this lady, please date her…not just for humping.

Well I hope that helps in some way…I appologize that this is going to be ten minuts of your life you’re not getting back. Good luck.

I’m sorry! That post should be read with a huge disclaimer:

Dr. Johnson’s PERSONAL OPINION!!!

Thank you, and resume your salad.

What happened to my post? My rather long one that I worked on and put thought into?

Ok I just think I explained this whole thing wrong. LOL

First off we dont date, and I am not really looking for a hit and run either, especially since I work with her. I just meant to ask how do I turn a already open girl, even more open. I guess horny was the wrong word to use. LOL.

Ammo then. Still, just be careful while on the job.

-D4

Well then yeah…Ammo, or Instant Openess.

Thnx alot everybody for your responses. Especially Dr.PJ for taking the time to write that long one. LOL. Actually took me only 3 minutes to read it.

Then I appologize that you have lost three minutes that you may never get back. Unless I could build a time machine…but where am I going to get a flux capacitor at this time of night…

Well you’d need this timey wimey stuff.. so I’ve got this timey wimey detector which might help you..

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1503/ottarfiller11detailra7.jpg

Timey Wimey? Hhmmmm…does it have a cup holder?

Good heavens, no, but it has some parts of a 60’s telephone, an obsolete tape reel as part of its make-up…