Newbie with Q's about LS products...

Hey there everybody, I’m a newbie who ordered a few products from LS before discovering this forum! :stuck_out_tongue:

So, I just received SofE, PI/w and EW in the mail yesterday and I’m ready to begin experimenting. I’ve only really been able to find info around here on EW, for obvious reasons, but does anybody have any experience with the other two? I did do my research and all three seemed to be reputable and quite highly recommended…but can anybody give me some tips on how to begin using them? I plan on using my $25 newbie GC based upon what my “starter group” does or does not do for me…what are you ladies’ experiences in terms of how much to use, effectiveness (especially for PI/w - this one did have a handful of naysayers, but my overall impression is that most people liked it).

Thanks a million in advance everyone!

All three are great products and I think SOE and EW are popular here. SOE is the easiest to use and impossible to mess up. Just roll a 3 or 4 inch stripe on each forearm (& or neck) and you’re good to go. It’s a friendly alpha nol based product. If you have the women’s version I think it has a small amount of cops for enhanced feminine power. If you bought the unscented “unisexual” version it has a little rone mixed in with the nol. SOE is still one of my favs and I wear nearly daily.

The other two are a little more tricky and I’m sure the women here will help you out.

Thanks so much! I wore SofE for the first time today and got one blatant hit from an older guy, but it mostly seemed to make females more friendly…I also noticed that women “noticed” me somewhat more. If SofE affects me that way, does it mean that I should add more cops to the mix at some point to attract men more? I felt like it made me give off a kind of “alpha female” vibe to other women…I’ll try it for a few more days, of course, to get a better handle on it, but that’s my initial impression.

Hi Chika!

I ordered from LS too and even posted a little on the forum there but it’s so so quiet on that forum which is too bad… Then I came here and I love this community!

On the products you bought, I love love love SoE. I have the gel packs (the women version) and they never disappoint and they work on both men and women which is nice! Are you using phero’s to attract someone special? I’ve noticed my target, which is a very shy guy, is very much affected by alpha androstenol (which is in SoE). Androstenol makes people more friendly, you seem more open for conversation. Next to that, but maybe that’s just me, I’m always cheered up when I’m wearing something with androstenol in it, so it might have that effect on other people!

I’ve never used Primal but I’m curious about it, I might buy some!

EoW… Have you already smelled your bottle? It’s not going to smell good, I can tell you, but it seems to come in different strengths. If you look in the sticky “Newbe with a few questions” you’ll find lots of tip on what to do about the smell. I’ll tell you my favorite ways to get rid of it:

  • Add some drops to a nicely scented bodylotion. Put the amount of lotion you want to use on your hand, add the drops you want, mix with your fingers and apply. This covers it very well!
  • put a drop on your skin and let it dry for 10-15 mins. Then put a perfume oil over it. Sweet and heavy scents work best, like vanilla, chocolate-y scents or coconut.

I still have to figure out what amount of EoW works best for me. I’ve used it on my target and it seems he wants to be physically closer when I wear it, but I’ve known him for a long time and I think my new phero-type confuses the hell out of him :smiley: :wink:

Hope that helps and have lots of fun with them!

Hey, thanks so much, Flirtatious! So far, I’m enjoying my experiments but since today is only the second day, I don’t have alot of info yet.

Can I ask, what “dosage” of SofE do you wear? Yesterday I wore about five dabs, got a mild response, mainly from women who became much friendlier. Today I thought I’d scale back and see if I’d “OD”'d, and only wore two stripes, one strip on each of my forearms, and I got even less of a reaction. The first day, I wore two strips, one on each forearm, a dab behind each ear, and a dab in my throat. I thought that might have been too much, but I don’t think so. Should I be using more?

I have no specific target right now, but in a few weeks, there may be someone I’d like to try to reconnect with (we were “just friends” before, but there always felt like “something” else was there below the surface).

Any recommendations on how much SofE may be too much, or is it one of those ones that’s impossible to “OD” on?

Sorry for the delay on my answer!

I think you need a LOT of SoE to OD on it. Since it mostly contains androstenol very high doses cause some sort of “spacy” feel to the wearer as to the people around you. This can be even charming to some because it can feel like some sort of “blacking out” to people, like a “wow” kind of feeling. I’m not sure if that will work every time on the same person :wink:

Mostly I wear 2/3 of a gel pack (0,66 ml) and use the rest (0,33 ml) to freshen up. I’ll have to do some calculating on the amount I got major hits with since that was with an other pheromone product. I’ll get back to you on that!

Your target sounds like the situation that I’m in… Let me know how it turns out ok? :slight_smile:

SOE uses an oil based carrier so, while it lasts longer than alcohol carrier sprays, it has a relatively slow diffusion rate. So while effects last all day they tend to be on the mild side. Thus I find SOE ideal for work where you don’t want to be over the top and don’t have time to refresh. If you want really pronounced reactions you’re better off using spray based androstenol, e.g., Spaceland, rather than painting 30 inch stripes all over your body. The spray is pretty intense for an hour or so and mellows quickly thereafter.

Short of drinking a bucket of SOE, it’s pretty much impossible to OD on it.

Hi

I have used almost all the female love scent products at one time or another.

I will scale them in but its just my opinion

1 being sucks and 10 being great …

SOE is great but it does attract more women then men. I never get a sexual type response with it. It does attract people though 10

If I want a sexual response I will pair it up with some copulins or TAH or TAL form here. Est is also good but hard to get.

I use the whole gel pack now because with less I don’t get much of a response. In the bottle I use 5 or 6 long swipes.

Primal for women is like Lam here. Anol and cops and while I like Lam better primal will do. 8

I like cleo although its very very weak 6

PCC was to low in cops for me to start with but now I get soft subtle hits from it 5

Mistress I like but it would not be my first choice, 5

Hate alter ego 1

EOW is a must have for women. 10

Lure is weak but fun, I give it a 3

Realm is old and outdated, a blast from the past 4

Pheromol is ok about a 5 , sort of more social

Pheromax I dont have yet, whoops lol I do but I havnt used it much and cant decide if I like it. Forgetting I had it should indicate something though LOL

The edge for women is good about a 6

Hope this helps a little

Tisha

I haven’t tried them all but would rate what I’ve tried from LS as follows:

SoE/w = 10 (very useful as a social, and the fragrance is an excellent light fresh cover if you’re adding more cops for sexual situations! I’ve used it to cover Lust After Me or EoW). I prefer the roll-on. The gelpacks start smelling funny on my skin after several hours.

EoW = 10 (essential, until a better/less stinky copulins formula comes along … GO, Diane!)

PCC = 7. Used in high quantities (2+ feet from the roll-on applicator) I get nice sexual hits but only at very close range. Not intense, but effective.

Primal for Women = 2. Pretty useless for me. Very heavy oily base, doesn’t diffuse well at all, so it’s like wearing nothing. Not at all a substitute for LAM. Though they say it contains cops, I cannot smell any significant amount of cops in this, and there is no cover scent so I think it has a very insignificant amount of cops in it, or a lackluster/incomplete copulin reconstitution.

The Edge for Women gelpacks = 10. These are fantastic in the sack. Hot Hot Hot with a rougher vibe.

Alter Ego/W = 3. Elicits good social responses but I don’t like how I feel wearing it. It’s irritating.

Lure = 2. Very old fashioned fragrance, mild social effect.

Excite Wipes = 6. Nice fragrance, but I didn’t get the sexual effects I was hoping for (however, all the wipes I got were pretty dried out in their packets, and I had to re-wet them - so perhaps they were quite old and that accounts for their relative ineffectiveness). Prefer The Edge/w, which is much more sexual.

Chikara = 1. This is for men, but holy god does the cover fragrance stink.

NPA/w = 9. This is the same as The Edge/w ingredients-wise, it’s just stronger. The gelpacks are more convenient. NPA is unfragranced, needs a cover.

Realm = 2. Yawn. Little phero effect and I don’t care for the fragrances either.

Chemset androstadienone = 4. This was not as effective for me as Instant Female Magic/w, not by a long shot. Has much less phero scent to it as well. Better than nothing though.

Super Primal Oils = 6. These are sold as cheap cover fragrances, and come with the Newbie starter pack. They actually contain significant amounts of alpha-nol, nicely fragranced and are thus very useful for daytime social wear. Very inexpensive for a good simple social phero.

LOL Really I never smelled this one.

I never bought these but 6 is not bad maybe I should give it a go.

I like primal, The cops are pretty low in it though and dosage is a pain. I do cover with a perfume though. Do you get a funky smell after wearing it for a while ? I dont mean a cops smell either.

I forgot about the excite wipes. I like those as well and agree with Carrie on a 6 Only problem is I found they dry up in the package if you dont use them right away even unopenned.

I don’t recall that but I haven’t worn it for a while, and I always wore some fragrance with it so maybe I’m covering it up? Actually it would be encouraging if I smelled something funky because my impression is that it doesn’t diffuse much of anything!

heh im glad you said that…

i only recently threw out my primal from years ago.
i wanted it to work soooo badly.

i got almost identical response to the LS products as Carrie

as far as the Edge for women,
its freaking great. (just cant use alot at once.)

Scent of Eros for women, freaking great, cant screw it up, good feelings had by all. Sexy for me.

EoW- use it ALLLL the time.
while I dont agree that it smells alot like a woman,lol, it works.

everything else i dont remember too much of.

Hmm Maybe my bottle is bad then. I bought it before I bought Lam the first time so its pretty old. Even when it was new though, after a few hours of wearing it even with cover I smell this weird funk. Its not a fruity or cheesy smell so it cant be copulins and like you mentioned its very low in that.

I still have 5 bottles of LAM thank the goddess so I dont have to use Primal. Perhaps its time to chuck my bottle as well.

Tisha

Chikara is sorta LS’s Ammo and contains 7 mones, hence the nickname C7. It smells like a cheap body spray, e.g., Axe. I assume they were trying to appeal to 18-21 year olds. It never did a thing for me unless I spiked it with NPA and then it worked just like NPA without the C7. In fairness, a lot of guys love it. Not heard of any women wearing it until this thread.

I tried it on, and asked my husband to also … but I didn’t wear it; I couldn’t!

Which Androtics women’s products are oil based?

Androtics doesn’t make oil-based products for women. I think their only oil product available now is A314.

There was Lust after Me, but it has been temporarily discontinued, due to lack of copulins. It has been gone for a loooong time. Same with Raw Power, and Dirty.
The only one of those three that is for women is Lust after Me;