Just want to post a quick ‘Thank you’ to Dee, regarding my order emails. It bypassed the junk folder went straight into ‘deleted’. Don’t ask me why, as AD’s addys and the zendesk addy’s are all stored in the ‘safe senders list’.
Anyhow, I agree that the automated system needs updating, as it makes for confusing times; and a lot of head scratching, especially when DHL start telling you via text message to your mobile that the parcel is on route - clearly not (and I mean by that in a nice way)!!
Although, I do in a way agree with the management team, in that if money is diverted into updating the system, then we could be losing out on the R&D side of things, but in saying that, if there was a full functioning system, you would probably have less of the “What’s going on here?” type of messages, lol.
Anyhow, thanks again for your help Dee, much appreciated.
…and in other news, I just found this lovely page on the internet regarding Hedione - H-O-L-Y-B-L-E-E-P
With the Hedione, Jdub and Conjurator are the most experienced with it I think(there may be other to). I have actually learned from them. Your best bet with this one is to find a good source and get the 100% pure stuff with no other cologne or ingredients in it.
To make things easy to start, I would start off with the dab method right from the bottle as this is by far the easiest I have found to use.
You mix this with other things like PA(Perfumer’s Alcohol), or even cologne but it may or may not work for you as Hedione is much more unstable I have found.
I have had luck with mixing with my Ylang Ylang Essential Oil, and I believe both of them are very close in consistency and possible molecule weight, but I am really unsure. Hedione is kind of like a thin oily liquid.
But to make things as simple as possible I suggest using the it right from the bottle with the dab method so you don’t have to order more stuff and mixing supplies. This way you can not mess it up and the Hedione is fairly cheap to.
I am sure Conj, and Jdub will come in and would go with there advice as this will help you out and save you a lot of time and waste. I know because I have followed there advice and have had very good luck with it. Now I am not saying don’t experiment down the road, and I think you should try a bunch of different ways to see what is best for you. I would just start off with what they suggest so you can see what it does before going crazy with it like I have with mixing and all of that.
I’m an active dude, so think that’s one that isn’t for me. I’m still looking for info on hedione, lol, how seeing one word over and over in Conj’s journal has gotten my brain to come alive with mystery of what hedione is and what it does; how much is needed, what it works with, applications, duration of effects, etc, etc; and can it be mixed standalone with AD’s products.
I’ve seen on my travels another pheromone site uses Hedione as their base. Question, does AD use it in any of their products or offer a standalone bottle of it? Even in their fragrances??
Have to say though, I wasn’t expecting to discover Lynx (UK)/Axe (Everywhere else) contains hedione!
Interesting thought; and I wonder how that works out? Pretty darn cheap spray cans/shower gel containing hedione. May actually give it a go and see if there’s anything noticeably different. There’s a young guy in work that’s started using a brand of lynx, has the girls turn heads when he’s in lol. The scent in my mind is that of MX297. Every single time I walk past him, my thought is “Either this dude has found AD and is using MX297, or Lynx/Axe have nicked AD’s formula and added it to their product line!!” Either way, ‘Peace’ contains hedione!!
Actually, I think I may have just found the product the guy in work is using, based on the signature the scent gives off…
‘Anarchy’ a new product, not long out. No sign of hedione contained within at this point of initial research (might be listed elsewhere on other research sites), but it is a head-changer, that’s for sure! Would be interested to see what it does with the ‘Stealth’ line included, as like I said, it comes across as being MX297; and we all know what that does!!
Got some shopping to do, Black Friday here, but not the reason I’m off out, lol. The stores are going to be mental, with lunatics everywhere.
You can just buy pure Hedione and dab at least 2-3 dabs around neck region and you’ll be good to go. This stuff is really easy to use and really potent.
I’m right in saying hedione is oil based? It’s one thing I’m yet to try, not even tried A314 oil version as yet, only the A & B spray versions, of which I prefered the ‘B’ version.
Anyhow, on my travels tonight I re-looked at Ylang-Ylang. Don’t ask me why, because last time I looked (on a different website), it said it was a calming product. Well, apparently to quote this website…
Aphrodisiac - say what?!!
So, here’s the question, who’s used this and found that to be true? Also, has anyone used ylang-ylang with hedione combined? Think personally that would be one mad combination (Possibly too much - confusion or attraction??), let alone adding any ‘Stealth’ properties to enhance the mix!
Like this other quote from the same website…
I might actually have to try and get some of this oil and try it out.
Still waiting on the shipment, but it’s the weekend, so here’s hoping it goes off sometime next week.
Edit: Okie, back to the other website info (UK, essential oil store) here’s a quote on their ‘Ylang-Ylang Essential Oil Complete’ product:
…So there’s the mention of jasmine, possibly a little of hedione in there?? Probably have to delve deeper to find out if it is indeed present, but still the two products (Hedione and Ylang-Ylang), look worthy enough to try out.
Oh, and well worth a read is their detailed article on the production of ylang-ylang…
Hedione is clearly oil-based yes . It’s oily on application but is absorbed well by the skin in a matter of minutes. Just be careful not to get collar stains (textile oil slicks, lol). My favorite point of app is behind the ears or on jawlines. Little risk of getting some on clothes that way.
I actually have a 5ML roll on bottle which I put 4.5ML hedione to 0.5 ML Yang Yang together and let set up a week or so and it came out great. Most of the time when I have tried mixing anything with Hedione it was a big mess, but I have found yang and Hedione to mix really well together as they are very similar in consistency and both are more a thin oily liquid.
The only issue I have found is that I had to add 2 drops of a synthetic musk so it was not quite as floral. Hedione is fairly cheap and we’ll worth it and what I would do is try this first to see what you think before you get to involved with essential oils and mixes.
I would take your pheromone mix you like and are familiar with like your famous IS and IO setup and then try with Hedione to see what you think.
Then when you want to look into the Essential Oils the ones I have had the best luck with are Yang, and Jamine.
Thanks Conjurator. I did wonder about application points regarding oil products. That’s one of the reasons I prefer using the spray products, not much chance of noticing ‘oil’ on clothing with those.
Justin, that’s one detailed post. I agree, hedione does appear to be relatively cheap to buy, with the Hi Cis being slightly more but that seems to have ‘booster’ properties within it.
Also, “Hedione HC is certainly less stable than ordinary Hedione,” and can effectively “Go off,” quicker than original Hedione.
Some members on the above website suggest blending the two versions together. To be honest, that would make me think twice about that if the Hi Cis version is prone to breakdown and ‘going off’ quicker, as I feel it may taint the effects and scent of the mix.
It would seem that the Hi Cis version requires storage to be cold, not room temperature, out of direct light. Beginning to think they keep it in a fridge?!! Original Hedione seems to be different, that it can be kept at room temperature and keeps longer. Interesting thoughts on that one.
…So Conj, Swiss Arabian, oil or Perfume? Found this on my travels…
They have one called Noora. Now on their own website (SA) the ingredients doesn’t look like very much goes into it, but on amazon, they list ylang-ylang and Jasmine combined…
Regarding Hedione, here’s a nice (forum post) page to read. Lists perfumes containing hedione…
Now, also on my travels tonight, I’ve found this great little website with a wealth of info on different perfumes (Male mostly) and a lot of detail about them; along with some extra info that surprisingly, even I didn’t know about…
…Oo, before I forget, (Or not in my case, lol). I finally got to do a standalone test of P133. Probably not the best of settings to do it, but I went shopping on Black Friday. 3x 5mcg sprays. 2 to the front of my neck, 1 spray to the back of my neck.
I had to get a train to the city centre, only 20 minutes journey; and usually I have a seat next to me and two opposite all being empty. Usually, when I go out I don’t have mones on (Like to have one or two days wearing nothing, gets the senses working better for when I do), unless I’m testing. Friday though, Friday was different. There was plenty of seats in the carriage, but I’m the 1st row away from the doors. I didn’t really notice anything from guys. They had the logic to sit in any of the rows were there were all empty seats.
However, this time it was different, as pretty much every female that got on the train sat in the seats opposite/next to me. It was a case of walking to a seat past me, stopping and coming back, lol. Really strange look on them, when they sat down. I could certainly smell the neroli. It was fairly warm on the train, the heating was being blown under my seat towards the doors, so anyone boarding could quite possibly be getting a hit from the P133!!
Think I’m addicted to the neroli scent anyhow, lol; and one girl in her early 20’s commented briefly on the “Nice scent,” when she sat next to me, but got off at the next stop. Deffo a hit there!
On leaving the train and passing people (females), I was getting a few heads turning towards me, as I passed them, not all I might add, mostly those in what I could describe as their early 20’s to mid 30’s. I’m not always good with spotting ages of people, get the horrid shock all the time in work when you think they’re in their mid/late 20’s then get the response, “No I’m 19!” Say what?!!
Here we go, I’m off track again. So, the stores in the city centre. I’m getting the same looks as on the train! OK, this product might actually be a good little attractant formula. It certainly felt like it was attracting people that would normally just pass me in the street without giving me a second glance.
P133, it’s not in my current order, whenever that ships, but it will definitely be looked at again in my next order! I would love to test it with TUTH and maybe Hedione. Has anyone tried those combinations as yet?
Anyhow, that’s it for me, for now. Getting ready for another night shift from hell although, it can’t be any worse than last night! Fight between 2 men, one got knocked out and a customer, manager and I had to administer the 1st aid, not before I had to endure the confrontation of the 20 something year old with his face/mouth smashed in threatening to attack me as I slowly directed him to the door. Didn’t think the Police would turn up if I’m honest, took them 40 mins to arrive, EMS turned up some 30 mins after that. Yet, there was a 30K of people music event on in the City’s docks, so the emergency services were probably stretched! Then, we got battered by all the drunk revellers wanting food, never seen so many people, personal cars, taxis come all at once; and then have a constant flow for what I can only describe of 6 consecutive hours!! Still, what a night; and hopefully not another repeat!!
I felt chilled if I’m honest. Thing I noticed the most was the neroli scent, seemed stronger than normal. Every time I moved my head and my top rubbed against my skin, I got a whiff of neroli.
I’m used to using shine a lot, get a lil’ buzz from that; and am focused, very focused on what is going on around me. Total opposite when I was wearing P133.
I’d have to get more to test again as the bottle is now literally fumes, as is all of my other mones, ie, until my next order arrives, I’m destined to use spray cans, eek. Might actually have to try out that Axe/lynx spray and see if it does live up to what has been written about it.
I’m used to being full of adrenaline, rushing around doing everything. Didn’t find that on Friday which was strange. Considering it was a packed shopping area, it didn’t really phase me! Could of been the P133, but like I said I’ll have to try it again to do more research.
That’s the reason why we and the Concierge team are here. And in reality, there’s quite a few query about it anyway, that’s why I, for one, can still manage to issue quick responses in the tickets. Maybe that’s another reason why it’s not risen to a “concern level” yet.
I honestly hate sending them in the 1st place, Dee! I know you all work extremely hard both on the forums, in development of products, shipping, etc, I cannot fault the high level of service! It’s just weird that, well, you get 3 emails sent literally one after the other. The 1st tells you that you have started an order. The 2nd saying you’re order is being processed (ie you’re at the payment section and either your card or paypal etc is being authorised to continue; and the 3rd is an email to say that everything went through and the products are been created.
There is a 4th email. That’s the shipping email and depending on what you buy, you usually expect to see it between 3 and 10 days from placing the order. Mine came the same day, much to my surprise! That’s the one with the tracking info, mine still says:
Tuesday, November 22, 2016 Location Time Piece
Shipment information received LOS ANGELES, CA - USA 04:38
Even DHL have invoiced me for the Customs Duty, lol. Plane hasn’t even left the USA yet, lol!!
Initially thought the delay might be because the payment hadn’t come out of my bank a/c, but that went on the 24th, so no problem there. Of course, we had the Holiday period plus Black Friday (Cyber Monday?), probably had a knock-on effect. I’m just sitting and waiting and wearing my F5 (refresh) button out, lol.
So far tonight has been positive. Saw ‘X’ for the 1st couple of hours before she went home. Still getting that weird feeling around her. Don’t get it around anyone else. Gave here a present of a couple of personalised pens I’d had made with her album artwork on. Seemed to take it well, seemed happy.
Gonna miss her when she leaves. Still think the apartment will be the last time. Wish it wouldn’t end if I’m honest.
Anyhow, I’m working till 3am, no mones on whatsoever! Going to be feeling it this week being totally out of supplies, I guess when the order comes, it comes. May have to look at hedione as a back up should I still have nothing come next week.
I swear my ‘F5’ button is gonna wear out on that DHL tracking page, lol! Guess I’m too eager to see that #2 appear, so I know it’s on it’s way, but nope, ‘F5’ is gonna keep on getting hit every couple of hours until I see it!!
Hope the DHL dude is ready for me though, cos’ he’s gonna be greeted with lots of kisses when it does eventually arrive, lol; and no, I’m not into guys as we all know, but despite my happiness to see ‘X’ one more time tonight, I really wish I had some IShine/IO at the very least to continue our conversation.
To be honest, as nervous as I was around her, tonight was the 1st time I thought, “Sod, it, gonna speak to her as best as I can without getting overly nervous, try and say what I want to.” Almost did say everything. Bit hard when I have onlookers watching and I’m on camera displaying everything I’m doing to a monitor at the other end of the department for even more to see!! Still, after giving her the pens, and saying, “This is a present for you!” Making a quick dart past to keep on working, I got to speak to her a few minutes later. Was nice, wasn’t nasty at all, she was smiling, (Possibly shock), but it felt comfortable; and I proceeded to tell her that I needed to also give her the music I produced for her/about her.
Still don’t really know how to go about that one, thinking maybe a USB stick with the files on, maybe even a ‘read me’ text file. I can’t really freak her out by bypassing her ‘unfriending block’ on the social media site. I know how to do it, pretty darn straight forward basic procedure. My code is still active from 2006, when I was one of the many developers working on integrating 3rd party forums to work/communicate with the social media site. Google Chrome still posts the warning about not copying/pasting code into the box intended only for developers, so it’s still active, lol. In plain terms, if I wanted to PM ‘X’ with the block in place, I could do so. I mean how’d you start a convo on that one, “Oh hi, yeah I know you’ve blocked me, but as I said here’s those music files I wrote for you!” Yeah, like that’s gonna go down well, lol.
Anyhow, I have between now and Monday 5th, December to well…
a) See DHL deliver my parcel (Fingers and toes crossed that goes on the plane in the next few days)!!
b) Decide whether to buy Hedione or ylang-ylang oil and test them out as a replacement if my order doesn’t arrive in time!!
c) Buy and create a USB stick; and load it with all the music, artwork; and maybe a txt file of thoughts/an explanation.
d) Prepare for the mother of all parties; and make sure I have the latest music all cued up ready to blast out on the speakers!!
Okie, so call me mad, but I went down the USB route! Was actually surprised at how easy it was to buy a couple of USB 3.0 8Gb drives; and cheap for that matter!! Here in the UK they expect you to buy a minimum quantity; and the price is a stupid amount, but I got this one designed and ordered (via the States) in minutes. Got two, well, one for me, one for ‘X’ and comes in handy should she ever need a replacement, if we ever meet/speak again.
Probably shouldn’t share this, but what the heck eh, it is after all my journal/diary and well it helps to keep positive.
So, you see that little image in my ‘O’, well that is an image of a real emerald shaped as a heart. Actually it’s a gem I own, something I’ve done since I was a teenager, don’t ask me why, lol. Started out as a hobby collecting amber with bugs in, soon turned to other gems. What can I say, something catches my eye, have to have it (If I can)! Anyhow, off track again. I scanned the emerald and coloured one side black. Might ask why? Simples, the green and black colours spell out the initials of ‘X’s’ name!! Also, both images are scaled down versions of her song album covers. So, now I have a means to deliver said tracks. Call me nuts, but it has to be done, even if it is the last thing I give her before she leaves.
…Anyhow. In other news, I’ve literally just gathered all of my 2-Go bottles together and spotted 2x 30 ml bottles of IShine and TUTH on my shelf, you know, the place I try not to go to unless it’s a night out, but it’s a case of having to, as I’m going to attempt to squeeze every last drop of mones from each bottle and throw them together!! This is desparate times people!!
Think I may have about 6 - 8 sprays of, are you ready for this mix…
TUTH 2.5mcg
IShine 1x
P74 10mcg
P109 5mcg
IO 1X
Ammo World Edition 1X
Ammo Original 1x
P133 5mcg Edit: Molecule C 10mcg (Found this hiding, have added it too!).
…Yep, that’s one hell of a mix, but necessary I think. My room now smells of neroli, nice, but for some reason I just hit a ‘tiredness wall’ on sniffing the P133 bottle. I know it’s been a long day; and well the sun is currently coming up on our side of the pond - 7:48am - but apart from this strange feeling currently going through my head (just sniffed the mad mix 2-go bottle to see what it smells like - not bad, neroli and something else in there by the smell of it, kinda floral), but i’m feeling spaced out all of a sudden, lol. This is now my standby mix in case the shipment doesn’t arrive by next Monday. Saying that though, don’t need to feel spaced out when I’m spinning tunes, although it may put me at ease, or not, lol. Anyhow, gonna go get some food. Will post later, two rest days again.
It bypassed the junk folder went straight into ‘deleted’. Don’t ask me why, as AD’s addys and the zendesk addy’s are all stored in the ‘safe senders list’.
Even DHL have invoiced me for the Customs Duty, lol. Plane hasn’t even left the USA yet, lol!!
