-none to use for a little attaction within LTR

Hi,
im 30 years old, marryied for 4 years and although got two kids :slight_smile:
after the birth of our second child, our sex life come to zero.
After 6 month i asked her what had happend, but i was told that she takes more time. And i have to understand that.

I do not… because after the birth of our first child everything was going well after only 3 month. Its double the time by now.

To clear things up. We have no else problems, can talk about everything and i would never say we have any problems with our relationship. Its only this little problem.

So i was thinking about tricking a bit. Because im a real noob to -nones, i would like you to ask what i should try.

I am married with kids.

I would say that after six months there must be some issues the two of you need to discuss. I am sure she is tired and there is a whole new set of stressors with two small children, however I think you really need to press her a little further or maybe seek some help with counselling.

As far as prducts go I would recommend the following:

Ammo - the 'none might help put a little spice in your lives as you sort through things.

Instant Shine - both of you feel a little happier.

Instant Female Magic - help her relax and feel relaxed when you are around. Very helpful for that one week a month.

IH - go 2X or 4X strength - this may help with some honest discussions AND help her feel more connected to you.

I have found that these help around my house.

Hi Denied, welcome to the forum! :slight_smile:

Bosshank knows what the dealio is, for sure, what he said!

It takes a little while and some experimentation to find your ‘sweet spot’.

But with a little patience, you’ll get there.

My advice? Start with the relaxing feel good socials boss suggested. Then move toward the ‘get me some’ pheromones. If you startle her with a new signature too different from your own right away…it may back her up even further. That’s IMO.
Do some reading and check out the stickys in the men’s forum…a wealth of info there for newbs!

Hopefully, when you get the kinks out…or in!.. the powers that be at Androitics will let you change your name to… ‘Access’ !!! :wink:

Best of luck and keep us posted!

Bella

I would need more specifics about whats happening to really give advice on what you should do, but if you want to increase sexuality I would say Turn Up The Heat or AMMO would work

Instant Female Magic is alright, I personally feel its best used to counter the high 'none sig if you tend to OD easily and more-so to get the girl, it relaxes them to your advances, something that you should not need if you are married

But during that time of the month its definitely golden, haha

I don’t know what your wife really reacts to, if she likes you to take charge, or if she likes to be in charge, and the context in which she likes to be or not be in charge

Some women are sexually dominant and simply need the switch turned while others need you to do everything

Potentially A314 might help out a bit if you mix it with the more sexual phero’s
I would say start with Turn Up The Heat or AMMO and experiment a bit
The site offers ToGo bottles which are much cheaper so you can afford to get a bunch of different types to try out, give each one a week or so by itself trying out different levels as each has its own sweet spot for each person’s body chemistry
then you can mix and match to find your perfect mixture for different places

Also, women want sex just as much as men do, but they MUST feel enough attraction to the man in order to enjoy the sex, so if she is declining you it is generally a problem with her attraction level at that time
If you make her attracted enough it will usually override just about anything she is doing or trying to do

You can something called escalation, where you start with mild touches in a non sexual manor, and when she touches back you move up to a slightly more erotic touch, perhaps caressing her body but not her sexual areas
Coming close to these areas but not actually touching them causes a desire for that place to be touched, once she meets your level of touching you are almost 100% assured that you can escalate further to touching the erotic areas and eventually getting sexual

Its kind of like a mechanism, you escalate and then pull back a little on it, if you do it right she will mirror you and perform the same escalation you did, then before she pulls back you escalate further and then repeat until you reach sex basically

There are other ways to go about it, but generally I consider this as the best/ideal way to do it, it makes the women the happiest and you get what you wanted too
It also is not overbearing and doesn’t stress the issue since it starts as something non-invasive and she is subconsciously giving you the go-ahead so she doesn’t feel like your pressuring her
You are creating a desire that you can fulfill for her

Also, it is very important to not allow yourself to become whipped in the marriage!
A marriage should never be one-sided, thats why they call it a partnership its two people that come together not one person that tells the other what to do

You know when the balance is upset when the women is in charge of you, when they can use their sexuality as a weapon/leverage because they are not as interested in you sexually any longer

The key is to realize that you don’t need her or anyone, you are complete as you are alone, if you receive respect you will return it, but you will not tolerate disrespect and will simply leave if none will be given to you

A lot of these things sound very cold, but its all about the mentality of not being needy, people respect people who respect themselves and will set up boundaries for how they allow others to interact with them and around them, basically you set up certain reasonable boundaries and people will adhere to them to be around you and you will not need to leave is the idea here

Like how a women generally would not tolerate someone they do not know walking up and touching them sexually, you would not/should not tolerate someone walking up to you and saying you suck for no apparent reason, nor would you allow someone to rape/harm your friend for no reason, it is behavior that you will not tolerate
What you choose to tolerate is up to you and whatever you feel is acceptable
(and I don’t mean harming anyone or anything, I just mean you will not hang around people that do these things and have a willingness to just walk away and not come back if it comes to that)

I could get really detailed about this but I’ve already strayed far enough from the topic, I just see marriages and relationships fail because one person cares too much and the other reacts poorly to it

Basically its a good idea to self reflect now and then, look at yourself and notice your accomplishments, if you feel in charge and confident about yourself things will tend to just go your way, you will tend to act more attractively and playful towards your wife and she will respond better
Acting needy or insecure reminds others of their own needs or insecurities and it does not make them feel good, that is why it causes a negative reaction

For a little mor information i inbtroduced myself here

After thinking a little about it, i guess that i build enough -none by myself.
I would say that im dominant in my working environment, but not in my relationship. My wife isn´t either. We both have our boundaries, and we respect. Would say that we live in a good harmony, beside that little problem.

Trisha advises more social Pheromones like Instant Shine, Instant Openness and Instant Honesty.

The Situation when i try to get a little closer to my wife is a bit the same.
For example when we both lay on the couch watching tv after both children are in bed… around 21.00. Shes watching TV, looking kind of bored an tired.
After all, she had a hard day with two children.
She does know me too good. It doesn´t rellay matter what i try, she quickly realize that i´m going to try to seduce her. Even if i just start to fondle her.
Then i´ll get that look that says: Please, stop. i don´t want to…

I hate that look so much, that i stopped starting the action. I just can´t stand getting the mitten more then once a week :frowning:

She only starts action when she is a little drunk, what didn´t happen the last … let me guess 2 years or so. being pregnant an within lactation may be the reason for that. And of course it cannot be, that i have to make my wife drunk to sleep with me.

So after a little analysing the situation, i would look our for something to lift up her mood. Say Instant Shine… and to relaxe herself a bit with Instant female magic.

ah… she has a very good nose, and i don´t use cologne. Just Deodorant.
I guess she will notice any new scent on me, if i don´t cover it with my daily
deodorant, which i apply in the morning and after work. So i would prefer products which as less smell as possible.

Denied,
Good advise there from bosshank, bella and goldenforest.
Start with the social pheros first, Instant Shine to keep both of you in happy moods and add Instant Honesty to get deep conversations, where you can find out if there was a problem that she was not discussing.

Are you on any form of birth control now? Sometimes the fear of getting pregnant again too soon, may be the reason your wife lost interest in sex.

Ammunition will be your next phero that creates that sexual vibe/attraction. When you report on these ones, you may be allowed to order P83 or some of the experimones.

Don’t change your phero signature too abruptly, by changing your pheros or making different combos too quickly.Doing that will really confuse :confused: your wife, instead of getting the attraction you want, she may become suspicious that there is something changed about you. Start with one and slowly increase the dose, to find the dose that works well for you. After one week try the next product, and during the third week you can try a combo of two pheros.

I have used the method described and have had very good results so far. I have been married for much longer than you and have been experiencing an ever declining sexual response from her. Things are better thanks to Androtics!:stuck_out_tongue:

Cheers!
Kusro :slight_smile:

no birth control. in fact my wife often talks about probably getting a third child. She looks for a house with enough room for 3 childs and her new car, she likes must have enough space for that and so on.

I told her i´m satisfied with 2 kids. But we agree that we have a look at it in 2 years or so :slight_smile:

thank you all for advices

ok i think i have a good plan now.

Phase 1:
I will start with Instant Shine for about a week
Than i will add a little Instant female magic.. again for a week.

Phase 2:
After that test phase i would try to add a little Instant honesty oder Instant openness. Maybe she likes to talk about somethink she normaly wouldn´t.

Phase 3:
When the time is right an i can manage to get our kids to a grandma, i would love to move her doing the first step. Thinking about adding Ammo or Turn up the heat. Just for that evening.

Would u say, that is a good plan? Im not shure wich one to take in phase 2. Instant honesty oder Instant Openness ? And in Phase 3, would there Ammo be better or Turn up the heat?

Still having the problem, that she has a very good and sensible nose. Hope i can cover those pheromones with deo

Im not quite shure

I’m going to suggest something other than pheromones. Probably when you get home from work, you want dinner and to relax after a hard day at work. Well, she’s had a hard day too. Taking care of 2 kids and running a household is a hard, full time job. Perhaps it would help if sometimes you wash the dinner dishes without being asked. Maybe give the kids their baths and put them to be instead of her. etc. Give her some time to relax after a hard day and you might see some success.

Just a suggestion!!:smiley:

I would probably also say to work on your seduction, you gotta start off real slow if she is real resistant. We tend to get lazy in long term relationships and just go right in since they respond well to it most of the time during the relationship

She still wants sex, but probably feels that she either won’t be able to get into the mood or is too tired to or something of that nature, if she gets really turned on then this will wake her up and sex numbs your feelings of pain or discomfort as well so she won’t be sore and tired anymore if you do it right

If she is very tired or sore or has a headache, being direct will usually blow out her desire to have sex, you should start just generally making her feel good, back rubs or just being close and you escalate slowly, don’t start with erotic areas you have to move slowly, it makes it more spontaneous when the sexual activity starts, women like this since planning sex is really mundane and boring

however,

one thing women absolutely love is anticipation (men too just not quite as much) so going slow gets them more and more worked up and generally will make the actual sex more intense and rewarding for them, and you will also enjoy it a bit more as well, this is what foreplay is all about it starts before sexual activity even begins

You guys should go for IS and just try to enjoy yourselves a little more too,
and give her back rubs or massages in general if she does something you like, such as getting happy about you returning or just acting in a way that pleases you
It draws more attention to their good mood and helps them to remember it more clearly, this will also cause this behavior to be repeated more as it has been established that you like this behavior and return the good feelings sent your way
Plus its the same as a properly given compliment which makes you feel good!

A lot of times having a baby causes forms of depression in the mother, they feel trapped in a sense, like they can’t live life the way they want to because they are held down by a family or something of that nature
the women may be overjoyed about having a family and happy about it but the feelings of depression can still be there even if she wants the family and the life
Its just something that you might want to keep in mind because it does happen sometimes

I like to Report.
Because i am not too rich i ordered Instant Shine and Instant Female Magic.

I have used it all week. 2-3 Sprays of IS and 2-3 Sprays of IFM.

First of all i like to mention, that i F**ing LOVE the smell of IS. I really wish i could have a bath in it!
First time i applied it, couldn´t stop smiling for 15 min, like im Stoned or something :slight_smile: But that was only the first time.

For those how dont have IS and read this post: I think it is a very fresh and sporty scent. A touch of citrus, orange in it. It works perfect with my Aqua de Gio. In fact i like it even more :slight_smile:

Instant Female Magic, is neutral for me, i can only smell the alcohol with my nose over the bottle. After applying it, there is subtle smell of some citrus.

The Week after all was very nice. Both me, an my Wife where relaxed and had a good time. It seems to me, that she was i little bit more relaxed than usual, especially in situations when she used to get angry. For Example:

We hat to change a bed from the cellar to the first floor. That´s a terrible work, becourse of a narrow stairs and so on. A typical situation for some querelling.

Nothing. We both worked together perfectly, although we both were a bit on the edge with that stupid bed.

That was in fact the only time, where she reacted different than i expected.
After all i think that my combination is subtle after all.

I will stick to IS and IFM. I´m looking forward to order A314 with a 4x Instant Honesty. This will be my business mix.
But it will have to wait a few month, becourse i just cannot affort it right now.

Greetings!