Not getting results! Recalibrating my conditioning to mones...

I’ve been doing a whole lot of testing lately and not just with AD’s products. Remember I’m a pheromone enthusiast and was before I started working with AD. Lately something really strange has been happening where anything I have used has gained me no self-effects or effects on others.

There’s this new company in NYC and everybody is swearing by their products. I bought myself some and nothing. All the new and exciting MX’s coming out, even my own ICM 2.0 has not worked for me. This is where it gets really odd. When I finally got ICM 2.0 right it was like a switch turned off and that was that. Since that day about two months ago, I have not been able to get a single solid hit off any combination, not even my beloved A314/TUTH combo.

Last year, right around July, I did a self-imposed thirty day pheromone diet. It basically was an entire month of no pheromones. Now that might sound like torture and in some ways it is. What it did do was recalibrate my system. I believe what was happening was that even though hits are still there, they have been so normal and frequent that I am unable to see them as hits anymore. By denying myself the use of pheromones for a little while I can reset my own body’s natural pheromone production, get acclimated with exactly how to work a situation without social lube dependency, and most importantly shock myself with how amazing mones work, when I don’t have any to wear.

Last time I did this, after just a day I was ready to go back. I did have some other reasons also last time, but they proved to be false. I think its very important to take at least a week off every few months just so you can remind yourself how easy the mones make your life. Someone like me who pretty much uses mones 6-7 days a week for the past 5 years needs a bigger shock!

This will also force me to re re-equate myself with the mones once I’m back on them. I believe a lot of us sweet spot test but then get in that rut where if three worked for us last month, year, then three is going to continue to work for us. We do not take into account our body composition changes and what not. I’ve been hitting the gym like a madman and eating super-healthy. I eat celery seed like a madman, which actually is a natural substance that creates testosterone. I’m sure my sweet spots are all out of whack.

I’ll continue to offer advice as always and post my results here. I just need to remind myself how amazing and wonderful mones are. I’m not going to commit to a solid month. I’ll just do it until I am certain my conditioning is at a level of reset. LOLz, I won’t be starting this weekend though. Going to Spring River in Arkansas on a camping trip this weekend. Now that would really be torture. This will give me a great opportunity to test the new stuff, which so far I haven’t gotten anything off of. Like I said though its me, not the stuff :frowning:

I went through something similar before, but for me it took only laying off for a number of days…and interesting thing about the celery seed. I hate celery, but will put it in my juicer mixed with a ton of other stuff.

I do it every now and then, cleanse that is. And I think I know which product you’re talking about Steve, you’re not alone. It hasn’t done crap for me either. No joke but the only combo that works for me every time and waits for John to chime in is A314 + IJ. Seriously, it turns me into an asshole. A314 alone: the usual confidence. IJ: nada. But the two together and it scares me actually. There is this lunch truck girl that responds well to it but I hate wearing it in the morning, ruins my whole day. Anyway, yea, sounds like you need to really do a serious purge.

I have a thought here, so bear with me here. It’s a well known fact that when we gain something pleasurable, say something as simple as a text message from a girl we like, we get a slight tingle of pleasure. As this continues, we want more and more of this pleasurable experience. So much so that it can become addicting. In fact CNN just released an article discussing how folks are becoming addicted to checking their smart phones because either they want that slight tingle of pleasure that is activated by an email or text. Now in regards to mones. When we get a positive hit, it sends a similar signal to the brain indicating a pleasurable experience. I still remember my first major hit was with cttm and mx301. When I got that hit, I wanted more of it and thus solidified my interest in mones.

What it sounds like to me Steve, is that you have had so many hits, positive and negative epxeriences over the year, that you’ve developed a sort of higher tolerance to such things. I suspect the hits are still there but as you said, you may no longer notice them. Very similar to coke/crack addicts. They need more and more and more each time, eventually just to make them feel “normal” instead of suffering from withdrawl symptoms. Are you addicted? I would say yes, a bit. Going a few days without them and already feeling horrible is a clear indication of addiction, but thankfully not as horrible as smoking or drugs.

Do a 30 day purge. It’s going to suck at first but as you said, it will cleanse your phero signature, cleanse your mind and allow you to see things more clearly once again.

EDIT: Here’s the article I was talking about: CNN

Hi Steve.

I´m not an experienced user, but what 2000GT says makes sense to me. In my experience, what threee monts ago would have been an incredible hit, may be normal today, and although i still do notice it, it does not have the same impact on me it would have two monts ago.

Maybe i get into a room, and a see two girls staring at me. I have been only using mones for about 11 weeks now, but it has become kind of normal. Maybe I get into a hotel, and the clerck is extra respectful and seems very pleased to see me. To an extent, I know that the A314 I´m wearing has much to do with that result, but sometimes I just don´t remember I have put it on in the morning.

What you say about taking some days off mones makes lot of sense. I hope you will be back with renewed energies and higher levels of phero awareness.

Best regards.

Talk to you soon.

I think a lot of its in the mind, its as if your aura gives off a vibe that your frustreated or looking for something. A moment of reflection and solitude always gives you clearer focus regardless of the action your taking a brake from. :slight_smile:

I took a brake for 4 months last year by request, even after the brake my focus isn’t really back. Its like my subconcious is out of wack… I’m not sure what to take a brake from to get it sorted but solitude and relaxing should help… or talking thins threw, sorting thoughts out…

But definitely trying to hard or too much is never a good thing, even if you have the most awesome stuff to play with.

Another thing that may or may not be an issue for you, but we spend so much time emphasizing to newbies that mones are not a supplement for solid game, confidence, and initiative, that we might forget that they DO still work and they DO make things easier. Attraction can be built faster and with less effort, comfort comes much more naturally, escalation etc. The point being…that for some people using mones for an extended period might lower their game.
Say a guy starts off and you might rate his game an 6 on a 1-10 scale.
He starts using mones and starts getting results that are more along the lines of an 8 level game.
But results come so easily with the pheromones that in terms of attraction and seduction as a skill, he backslides to having a level 5 game, he’s getting better results because of the mones, but he’s not growing.

I’ve caught this in myself. I would catch myself breaking some of my own “rules” regarding how I present myself to women, because when I was wearing a good tried and true mix…minor mistakes in my game slip by, stuff that I know from experience would usually blow me out or at least set me back, would be overlooked. (I’m not talking a lack of congruence, simply that the mones made up for minor mistakes)
I found I was able to open sets much easier, I stopped using roll off’s and false time constraints because the sets were so welcoming that it became a non issue.
Unless I was wearing a serious None OD mix, Bitch Shields almost never happened and I didn’t have to worry about shit testing (unless I wore A314 in which case I got MORE shit tests in the early stages but only for a short while).
I found I was still getting good results when I would show attraction before working on sparking her attraction (because the mones helped me get ioi’s so early).
In short my game got a little sloppy.

Now I think this is something that could go either way. For somebody that’s pretty well experienced in attraction and seduction theory, having your game suddenly boosted like that might encourage laziness.
On the flip side for a beginner, the blatant hits and successful interactions that mones can bring could be a great confidence booster that actually elevates their “natural” or “inner” game.

So I think periodic breaks are a good thing, I also think it might help for people that are enthusiastic testers to alternate between social, sexual, and respect oriented products. They all produce different types of hits so the results would be more obvious because they should (in theory) be fairly different from the previous product tested.

gt smash!!!

Steve, if you were hormone doping. . . should have consulted me first!!! :frowning:

Just kidding :wink:

Glad to here you will still be here for us even on your wee break! I hope you get things in check and feel better! and ALWAYS remember no matter how awesome mones are, YOU are the one who makes them awesome :smiley:

Hope to talk to you very very soon!
~Tea