Official MX412 discussion thread, men: akuto A1 replacement at business and socials

Pheromone Science MX Test Results
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What is MX412?

MX412 is the one from MX412-413 package.

This pair of MXs are experiments to replace A1/Androstadienone. This formula is designed so that it does not cause the reported A1-depression, while still being comforting.

MX412 - Lightly fragranced with akuto.
MX413 - Lightly fragranced with neroli.

Note: This product does not contain Androstadienone.

Status: Currently In Production

Get MX412 here: Molecule A – Carefree Youthful Uplifting Pheromone - Pheromone Labs

Quote from original Release Thread July 20th, 2011]:

How to Test:

Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

Strength- How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

Length of Effects - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

Tenacity - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

Effectiveness & Consistency - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

Diffusion/Sillage - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS
Research Assistant
Androtics Direct

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**Date: July 29 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    MX412 X 1

2. Purpose of Application
MX 412 Testing on business applications

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Love the scent, a little spicy and tangy.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Felt more confident, seemed to seep in a little.

5. Location
Starbucks

6. Environment
Air Conditioned, Friday afternoon vibe

7. People’s Reaction
Met up with partners that afternoon. Had to go through a monthly review on how things were going and what not. On the way to the event, noticed that women around me were not giving as much direct IOI’s as the usual 2D of A314.

However, would like to note that one of them beside me seemed pretty relaxed. Maybe it was just her day or something.

On board to the conversation, ideas were on the air. Noticed one of the barista shooting IOI’s towards my group’s conversation. As she passed by, casually opened her.

About 19, probably on summer job, never seen her before.

Interestingly enough, as I opened, my whole group began to chat less and seemed to give the impression of joining in. However, noted that the girl didn’t seemed too bothered by this and continued on cheerfully on giving information about herself. Since it was day, didn’t delve in too much but got her number in about 6 minutes.

Group was comprised of guys, mostly in early 20’s to mid 20’s. Although being the youngest, was able to converse in their language. I have been able to do this even before I used mones however, would like to add that in respect to this MX412, was able to hold their attention for a longer period of time.

Did not feel the alpha-ness image from this mix. Seems to be a lot lesser as compared to A314, however this is only for the first hour or so into the conversation.

As time passed, probably into the second hour, noticed that the alpha image seemed to be snowballing in.

8. Summary
I have no idea what this is supposed to do, so just reporting my observations in the conversations thus far. Next few reports will be on MX412 in different social settings such as clubs and casual meet-ups with friends.

Also note that I have started to develop a certain sense of what each mone seems to smell like. This is true in regards to the instant line that I have. Even though most of the base scents of the instant line is neroli at 6%, I am able to very closely detect the differences in harshness and spicyness of the scents beneath the neroli.

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**Date: July 29 2011 - Evening/Night

  1. Pheromones Used**
    MX412 X 1
    MX412 X 2 - Refresh 4 hours later

2. Purpose of Application
MX 412 Testing on Casual Socials & Cold Social

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
X1 - Still loving the scent
X2 - Calm, Confident

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
X1 - Settled in, confident
X2 - A little cocky

5. Location
Bar/Club

6. Environment
Air Conditioned, Friday night vibe

7. People’s Reaction
6pm - Evening - Bar
Went up to meet up with few of friends that night to chill. Refreshed and sprayed on MX412 X 1 for that day.

Upon arrival, made basic exchanges of approval and went onto conversations. Conversation subjects were light-hearted and happy. Not too deep or in-depth. 4 of the dudes brought their girlfriends that night.

5 dudes, 4 ladies.
Age range 20’s-mid 20’s.

Ladies were mellow and giggling throughout conversation. One of them was beside me and didn’t pay much attention to her boyfriend. Didn’t care much but received IOI’s from them. IOI’s were not very blatant and in your face. But the girl beside me seemed to lean in and engage kino pretty often.

Threw a small smile in direction of all ladies during the conversation and got red-faced reactions from all of them.

Had to take the initiative to engage some of the waitresses that evening. As the evening seeped in, the respect vibe seemed to snowball in. About 2 hours upon application, the guys seemed to want to hear my opinions more and the topics began to delve deeper into political and insightful issues.

Was leading the conversation thread about 2 hours later. Ladies were quiet but were listening intentively. Whole group was nodding subtlely as I spoke.

Tapped on one of the waitress shoulder in between the conversation and she flew open. Soon enough, was engaging the threads and combined them with current group.

As evening turned to night, one of the ladies asked me if I was attached. Didn’t reply, smiled and looked into her eyes. Gave a small sideways shake and she giggled, red-faced. Turns out she was heading on with her group to a girls-night out. She hadn’t decide where to go, so told her to tel her group that I would surprise them.

Called up my other group of clubbing circle and told them to meet me at my usual club later on.

Night
Refreshed and smacked on MX412 X2.

Met up with girl and her group first. Arrived at the club and engaged the staff. Introduced them to my new friends, decided to wait for my gang first. Arrived soon enough and proceeded into the club.

Total - 6 Girls, 4 Dudes
Age - Late 10’s-Mid 20’s

Total set in club was very high and happy. Didn’t put on any IS but the effects of the girls seem giglish and happy. Took two of the girl’s friends, one Asian and one mix along with me to open sets.

Led them around and did usual routine of warm-up. Just that this time I couldn’t seem to find mixed sets. Most sets that night were only females. Sets were easy to open, but had to take the initiative. When I got approximately within range of proximity, girls would double take and give blatant IOI’s. This was extremely obvious in the dance floor.

Finally found a mixed set, 3 girls, 2 dudes. One of the girls was really, in one word, -WOW.

I was going around the whole club opening sets and about 90 minutes have passed before I opened this set.

Noticed that sets just began to open easier, and easier and easier as time passed by.

Opened the mixed set alone, had to throw in a few negs towards my target because the group seemed to regard her as the dominant female. Had to throw in a jealousy plot to lower defence. But overall, got in easily.

About 15 minutes in, took her out of the group and merged her with my original group which now has about 3 new girls in it.

The vibe around the whole group was pretty sexual to be honest. The girls were extremely comfortable with engaging kino. My companion commented that she felt extremely comfortable with me and my group even though we had high sexual energies that night.

Night ended extremely well. I would just leave it at that :cool:

It’s been awhile since I went for a night’s out to club. But things and tests seems to be much faster and easier to move during the night time. It just happens faster.

8. Summary
Key observations on MX412 so far

Conservative Social Setting

  • Respect hits take awhile to surface. Usually about 1-2 hours upon application
  • When seeped in, it snowballs. Sets fly open.
  • Women are attracted, but disclose it subtlely.

High Energy Social Setting

  • Respect seeps in same time as above.
  • People open up easier
  • Women comfortable with sexual energy around you
  • Blatant IOI’s and they initiate kino during comfort building
  • Still had to take initiative to open
  • Within proximity, gave blatant clues that scream “PLEASE OPEN ME”

Guys;

  • Buddy vibe within an hour.
  • Respect hits them after an hour

Ladies;

  • Subtle IOI’s within hour
  • In your face IOI’s after it seeps
  • Gives you the alpha image respect upon opening
MX 412 Turbo-Charged with P83 - A Ticking Time-Bomb
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Haven’t posted in here for ages lol.

Product: MX412 (Akuto)

Location: Home.

Dosage: 3 sprays to the neck

Self Effects: I mentioned this over the webcast but I’ll repeat it again…I
felt chilled when this mix went on. It was a laid back feeling, reminds me of TAC. I’m thinking at least 10mcgs of TAC has to be in this mix. This was only one test, however I’m hoping this self-effect carries on in social interactions.

Conclusion: Obviously, this is one test but I gotta admit, it feels good to wear something and NOT have to worry about getting down in the dumps. I did ask my mum how she liked it and she gave it the ok. I’ll be interested in seeing how this mix compares to A1 in terms of the smell test. It seemed that anytime I mixed A1 in a cologne I always got the “oooooh, you smell gooooooood!!!” compliments.:cool:

Unfortunately, my MX412 bottle was already at the half-way mark (spilled during shipping :frowning:) but Mick and John sorted it out so hopefully I’ll have more shipped out this week.

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MX412 x2 sides of neck
Venue: Work

I was with a female earlier in the day. I didn’t notice any specific effect on her, it was pretty much normal our entire interaction throughout the time we were together. I feel this is worth mentioning because just in case it makes a difference on PMS symptoms or not, it’s good to have a baseline.

During the majority of my interactions in the office, I didn’t notice anything major. Most of it was normal throughout the day. I do know that I was closing some deals in less than 5 minutes, literally. I was bare, no A314 on, nothing. That’s what was out of the ordinary. This may be gender neutral in terms of trust and calming effects. I have to test a bit more out but that’s what I got from it this time around.

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So now that my bottle of MX412 is almost gone, it’s time for some reflecting. MX412 does indeed carry the comfort vibe, however I believe the main difference between MX412 and A1 is that MX412 is geared heavily towards the male user due to it’s mood boosting capabilities. With MX412 I feel more confident, and yet so laid back. I compare it to A314 in terms of self-effects.

For comfort, I feel MX412 delivers but not in the same way A1 does. With MX412 it’s like wearing A314 with TAC and IO. The women definitely feel comfortable and social, yet they don’t “lose themselves”. Now, don’t get me wrong, I completely understand that pheros are not mind control HOWEVER, A1 had a tendency to…challenge that.

Bottom line: MX412 is much safer, and definitely more male/user friendly than A1. Also seems to pair up perfectly with A314 and gives A314’s vibe a boost in confidence and sociability.

A1 is still more effective if the majority of people you’ll be interacting with are women due to it’s mood boosting effects on females. Also seems to have the edge over MX412 in terms of leaving lasting impressions although MX412+A314 seems to be just as good at leaving good impressions.:slight_smile:

Welcome to the Station
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This is great and useful feedback, thank you. Its also pretty much in line with many other reports. Thanks again for keeping our development moving forward. :slight_smile:

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Oh oh. Nearly busted… I squirted 4 sprays of MX412 on @8:30PM. She whiffed the Akuto!

More deoderant I told her.

Strangely, she playfully flicked my arm and kissed me - both very strange, unexpected and quite playful considering we are just friends atm.

MX412? A314? or maybe a bit of AMMO?

MX412 methinks :smiley:

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OK so we had another incident last night.

The upshot is I didn’t really get much out of the MX412 but she definitly picked up on the Akuto scent - twice she commented on it.

I’d forgotten that MX412 was Akuto scented. I had intended to apply IH last night but I pulled out MX412 by mistake and thought I might as well give that one a whirl.

I can’t think of what it reminds me of but even with a light fragrance my GF picked up on it. I’m sure I could detect the mones behind it. The smell of the mones reminded me a little of TUTH. They seemed quite sticky too.

Did the MX412 cause the incident last night? No. Did it help? No

I caused the incident last night - things I’ve done in the last 7 years. My GF has OCD so it all comes back. The MX412 didn’t help either. Nothing can help in a situation like that. I am 90% of what happened. The mones are not little miracle workers. If MX412 was the answer to that then we’d have a cure of OCD/anxiety too.

MX297 will have to be on my list for my next order because I’m told it can help.

I need to get to reporting user status asap so I’ll posting these thoughts with a little more detail in the MX forum too. And I’ll be asking for my pass into the A314 insiders forum to see what dark secrets lurk in there :smiley:

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I’ve never used A1 although I am seriously considering picking up a bottle.

I have a few problems with my partner that are well documented in my journal.

there was another incident last night that was sparked off by her OCD.

She’s never really noticed the mones I’ve worn before but picked up on the Akuto scent the 2nd time she entered the room. She noticed it again almost immediately on entering our bedroom a 3rd time that evening. I say our but all my stuff is in the front room - it makes it easier for her to kick me out when she feels the need. She was in and out of the room that evening because she was watching a Big Brother Eviction last night.

I’d forgotten that MX412 was Akuto scented when I applied it. It was quite strong and spicy compared to neroli which I find dries down to almost nothing.

It’s base reminded me a little of TUTH in neroli - it had that whiff that catches the throat - just a note of it . The mones in it seemed quite sticky too very much like TUTH but not as ‘viscous’.

I thought at first, she was touchy feely with me but that didn’t last and I had applied 2 sprays of HEAVY AMMO 7 hours earlier. I also had couple of drops of A314 on, which had been applied about 4 hours earlier.

Anyway, she kicked off about 2 hours after I had applied 4 sprays of MX412 to my neck - there aren’t any mones that would have prevented her eruption.

Today she is on the warpath so whether I will get a chance to test I do not know. I will be cleaning off the A314 I am wearing now and applying 4 sprays again. This time to the sternum area - I need to pretend it is antiperspirant and I don’t think my armpits will have quite the desired effect :smiley:

BTW it is not her time of the month. She came on 5 days late for just one day. IME this means I can expect her to be complete nightmare until mid August and then it’ll start all over again… :frowning:

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She was on the warpath yestarday and it ranged from she’s leaving, to no I’m getting kicked out, to she’s going up her sisters (and if I’m prepared to talk she might come back etc, etc…

OCD

Anyway as it transpired as soon as I said I was prepared to talk she chilled and we went out. Down to the coast with the kids for a couple of hours.

I risked 2 sprays of HEAVY AMMO and what was left of my original order of IS.

Effect. Eldest stepson was quite aggressive in the car, whilst at the coast and on the way home. Unusual? No He has ADHD and Tourettes and this is exactly how he behaves after an argument between me and his mum. I think I just expected more after he was so well behaved the other day when I had a similar mix on.

It just goes to show that mones are the top 10% and all the rest is down to circumstance.

So I think it was pretty usual behaviour for him although he had a good whiff of the AMMO - he commented on the scent when we got in the car.

Cleaned off all the mones when got home and had another stab at 4 sprays if MX412. Everything was OK. Nothing to report with it really since she was calm and relaxed in the evening anyway. I just cannot say if the MX412 affected her at all.

I’m going to save the rest for when she is definitely PMSing and then report it’s effects or otherwise in the official thread.

I’m going to have another crack at IH tonight.

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4 sprays of MX412 to sternum area last night (I scrubbed up before applying).

Didn’t seem as sticky and TUTH like as the first time I tried it.

After resolving some issues with my SO she was calm and relaxed before I applied the mones. She stayed that way for the rest of the evening while we watched a TV show and spent a little time talking before bed.

It was a little warm in the bedroom but she didn’t comment on the smell at all. I did apply a cheap EDT to my jaw to try and offset the Akutu. It didn’t seem to affect the overall scent too much. I could smell the EDT at first but that soon wore off and I could easily detect the Akuto. I’ve no idea if she could smell it at all but I’d had a bath so she should’ve expected a bodyspray/antiperspirant type smell afterwards.

I cannot say how much of an effect the MX412 had on her. The important thing was I didn’t put a foot wrong last night.

I’ll save the rest of my MX412 for when she definitely has PMS and report back then.

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Forgot to add to yesterday’s post - I love the self effects and the vibe of 4x IG. It’s like a cocky version of A314.

<rant>

Today’s been pretty shitty. I didn’t even want to waste any mones on her today but when things took a turn for the worst I went with 4 sprays of MX412. I couldn’t find my MX297 quick enough. She mellowed a tiny, tiny bit. Enough so that I don’t have to leave today. I’m on the floor BTW and I had to scale 6 foot wall to get back into the house and out of the rain after she locked me out (I had been doing some work on my car). At least that way I took the humiliating I found myself situation off the street and out of my neighbours attention. It didn’t take long to persuade her to let me back in but f*ck me I’m almost ready to snap.

She kicked off over something really petty - although she is stressed about the situation with her mother (that I won’t go into here) - It does not excuse the sht I had to put up with today. If it wasn’t for my little girl I would walk. I don’t see this relationship ever getting any better. I had a hours of fcking abuse off her. :angry:

In the middle of all this I topped up with 2xIG and things got a bit tricky again but I kept my distance then and a few hours later she started talking to me. probably because she realised that she kicked off over nothing. I know she knows this because my daughter explained to her that she liked the game we were playing (I was pretending to punch some of her dolls in slow motion and she would rescue them. What caused it was my daughter went and told her what I was doing as though she didn’t want me be doing it - kids for ya! :smiley:)

She’s talking to me now but only from a distance LOL

I offered her the opportunity to just chat tonight so she can get things off her chest so long as it doesn’t involve criticising me, humiliating me in front of the kids, calling me names etc. She declined. The offer is still there but she usually needs some chill time on her own. I don’t give a f*ck whether I sleep on the floor or not any more.

It’s my 40th is next week. I’m not looking forward to it. She’s been using my age against me for the last few years (she is 5 years younger than me). Calling me up on my age and supposedly not acting my age etc.

Anyway that’s enough ranting for a while. :open_mouth:

</rant>

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Just a quick recap…

Things have been OK. I’ve tried various combos of socials, sexuals etc all the usual stuff listed in my previous journal posts. Nothing initiated and nothing has happened but we’ve not had any problems at all.

Until… PMS reared it’s ugly head. First 2 days were OK I was still wearing a mix of sexuals and socials in the evening. I noticed one morning she was very irritable and it was only a matter of time before I got it in the neck. So it was time to start MX412. I was going to have a bath and then apply. Too late! :smiley:

Anyway the day was ruined (this was last Sat). There was no point wearing them during the day whilst I was on my own. She’d gone to a local fair with the kids and left me at home. As usual after she calmed down she invited me over. This time I said no. It made things worst at the time and that evening but I am sick of jumping to her tune. I told her later that we either all go out as a family or she goes out with the kids on her own but I am past running out to see her with my tail between my legs. She wasn’t happy with this.

I applied 2 sprays MX412 that evening about half an hour before she got back and things were frosty. I was told I’d be leaving the following day.

I applied another 2 sprays MX412 first thing that morning. She said she was leaving on Monday…

We went out that afternoon.

I topped up 2 sprays MX412 that evening. We chilled out that evening but didn’t really get to do much together except chat a bit.

Today we’ll be out and about so I’m going to apply another 2 sprays so she can get a good whiff of it in the car.

Compared to last month and the month before? This stuff seems to be helping a great deal. There’s a few more days to go till I’m out of the woods but MX412 or perhaps one of the other fragrances will definitely be on my next order. :slight_smile:

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My SO’s PMS is here

Results so far here

Summary… Thank you very much AD :smiley:

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Another 2 sprays of MX412 today and it was like she didn’t have PMS at all… but maybe she didn’t because she ‘came on’ this evening. Maybe it helped. Who knows?

I think MX412 is gold.

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Univeristy life been so fun and busy :slight_smile:

Kay, to keep things updated, I always apply 2 drops of A314 in the morning. Right before meeting my girl, I would apply Ammo or A1. Usually 1 spray Ammo and around ~20-40 mcg A1. She looooooooooooved it during her time of the month. She even once told me and I’m quoting “You have these addictive things about you”.

TUTH made her literally make out wit me after I said “yo.. :slight_smile:”.

It’s worthwhile to note that the first time she ever got exposed to anything from me was a little to no interaction + MX391 + MX406 I think.

Girls in my classes are mostly conservative and hard to crack up, especially during the daytime. My female lab partner didn’t feel really comfortable around me though :confused: A314 too strong for yuh may be :wink:

No problem to make friend with guys.

Funny thing, I NEVER tried IG even once. I have so many mones but use only THREE or FOUR to be exact.

Should really play with:
IG, IO, IH, P83, P74, P91, MX391, MX412.

O, btw, MX412 is really good. Used it at a birthday party and I was called cute by my friend’s sister when he wasn’t around. They really liked my presence (guys AND girls alike btw). Good to mention that I was stoned about an hour ago, came to the surprise party and had 2 redbulls before going in the house. About 2-3 sprays were used.

PS: I really recommend anyone who is willing to improve your inner self (inner “game”, inner personality or psychology, whatever the heck you wanna call it :stuck_out_tongue: ), to read Life Response . It’s free and on Google and feel like it’s priceless. One of the few gems in the Internet as they say…