Damage_Control's Damage Limitation Exercises

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OK just a quickie to start my journal off.

Here’s my intro

IS is the only phero I’ve used solo. It was my first order just to dip my toes in the water. (running low on this stuff)

I now have 5.0mcg TUTH - free upgrade from AD :slight_smile: and AMMO 2012 togo. (Almost gone)

Various dosages to experiment on how IS works, and including top-ups throughout the day.

First off with IS I didn’t notice any self effects. Although I did smile a few minutes after applying it I was convinced that was just the placebo effect.

Over the next few days though I did notice I was less irritable. My partners children were much calmer when taking car journeys. In fact I’m pretty sure they didn’t argue at all.

Over all I love IS and will be getting x2 next.

I had one blatant hit when wearing AMMO x2 and IS x2 but I’m not sure it was the phero’s. I was walking though a bus station and a woman, who was walking towards me, about twenty feet away looked up smiled and stared at me until we passed each other. This felt very awkward because I was with my partner, her father and her son. Thankfully only her son noticed. He commented about at it the time and a bit later. He seemed to think it was my height because I am quite tall. I thought it might have been that too because it’s not uncommon for me to get that kind of a hit but it was full on DIHL. It was almost creepy.

Could it have been the pheros? The bus station was quite draughty - maybe my phero cloud wafted down in front of me…?

Didn’t get much from my SO but one night (after playing my cards right during the day and racking up plenty of brownie points) things got going between us - it was a bit different to usual too. I think I was wearing TUTH 5.0mcg x2 IS x2 and AMMO 2012 x2. It worked well that night but only after a good day. I had worn phero’s during the day mostly IS and a bit of AMMO. I scrubbed up before reapplying and adding TUTH before bedtime.

I think it has to be said - this is my only secret from my SO and for this experiment to work it will have to remain that way forever. I have never had any secrets from her before but that is part of the problem. I gave away too much at the start of the relationship and unfortunately I should have kept some stuff to myself (Schoolboy error). If only I had known she had OCD and every mistake I have ever made would haunt me every time we argue :frowning:

All in all a good couple of weeks testing even though there were plenty of arguments - some quite serious - I felt all in all I had the upper hand.

Which brings me to tonight - I am sleeping on the floor :frowning:

I look forward to reporting on my phero journey and can’t wait to try some new combos

EDIT: I may have added a couple of extra sprays of TUTH to that bedtime combo because my SO has a cold. This is what happens when you don’t write your journal when it’s still fresh in your mind.

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Oh yeah forgot to say that I totally got the IS crash. In fact the first week it made me tired and I had a headache whilst wearing for the first 2 weeks - both have passed now though. Those side effects were worth it though just to seem my SO smile and laugh at my jokes again :smiley:

TUTH still seems to catch in my throat though. Hopefully that’ll pass too.

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I managed to stay off the floor last night :smiley: she didn’t look impressed when I came to bed but she didn’t say anything either - maybe the magic IS at work.

I try to give her little doses here and there with my presence as I find it takes a while to kick in presumably because she knows my usual phero sig.

I noticed early on with testing TUTH 5.0mcg x2 IS x2 and AMMO 2012 x2 that she cwtched (snuggled) into me whilst watching a TV show in bed (She never does this). We’d had a rough couple of weeks, which is what prompted my phero journey, but we were working at it.

I was surprised at the time, but with hard work on the 90% the pheros will take care of the other 10%.

EDIT: Oh yeah I think a semi-romantic meal might have helped there (as romantic as you can get with a 6 year old wanting to join in). Or maybe that was another night? Damn I’m gonna have to start writing this stuff up whilst it is still fresh

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OK so that “time of the month” is definitely approaching. :frowning:

I had to sleep downstairs last night. I moved the small 2 seater sofa into the front room so I could upgrade myself from the floor and have a little privacy while I slept.

Lots of pheros in my wishlist but I’m pretty sure my next order is going to be:

AMMO x2
IS x2
IG
IH

I’d like to try:

A314B or maybe A314A that’ll have to be togo size or I may pick up the oil in a near future order.
TAC 10mcg 30ml but it’s out of stock

Maybe TAK would help for my partner’s PMS? IF TAC doesn’t make it back into stock when I am ready to place my order I might just give it TAK a go.

I know I have at least a difficult 2 weeks ahead of me :frowning:

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Note to self: I must stay away from the ENONE …

Had my last few squirts of AMMO on yesterday with Instant Shine. Top ups of Instant Shine did not seem to help much.

I will scrub down any remaining ENONE and spray some Instant Shine on later to see if I can upgrade myself to the bedroom tonight :smiley:

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Popped out with Instant Shine x4.

2 sprays to each side of the neck and a spray to the inside of each wrist.

Had to collect some stuff from my daughter’s school.

Nothing out of the ordinary.

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Went out again about an hour and a half after applying the above 4x Instant Shine.

Popped to the mall and went into the health shop on an errand.

Asked the assistant for a particular product. She was much older very late 40’s maybe early 50’s but fit looking. She was very helpful and joked with me. She is normally quite friendly so maybe nothing out of the ordinary. But I was more confident in my replies. Much more so than usual and I would say more like my old self - maybe even more confident than that. The magic of Instant Shine.

So self effects of Instant Shine = increased confidence and less irritability

Magic :slight_smile:

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Last night went OK :slight_smile:

At least we slept in the same bed anyway.

I scrubbed up and reapplied 4 sprays of Instant Shine.

I wore 2 sprays each side of the neck. One spray split between the inside of each wrist and a spray to the top of the head.

No sign of any PMS.

We watched a TV show together.

I got her grinning from ear to ear and chuckling when I started sniffing a fragrance she had on which reminded me of Thierry Mugler A*Men. I used to wear it when we first met

Today we had a trip into town to visit the orthodontist for her eldest son (hereafter I’ll refer to her sons as my stepsons - It’s easier and it is how I usually refer to her them).

I again wore 4 sprays of Instant Shine in the same points. Nothing out of the ordinary happened but I am definitely more confident.

It occurred to me that I may just be playing the part now that I’ve noticed that IS increases my confidence but I don’t think that’s it. I think there will obviously be some kind of a placebo effect but not to that degree. My confidence seemed natural - it wasn’t forced at all.

I also popped out to the shops. Got a smile off a younger (late to mid 20’s) female assistant who was serving someone else.

I’ll probably top up my Instant Shine with 4 sprays before bed (Gotta make it last)

Can’t wait to place my next order. Gonna try and get the cash together in the next week or so. Hopefully I’ll have enough to get some Putatives in there and do some proper testing. :smiley:

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Last night was OK (ish)

Instant Shine - 2 sprays each side of the neck. One spray split between the inside of each wrist and a spray to the top of the head. (This seems to be my usual application points when wearing IS solo)

I thought I saw some sign of PMS last night. Maybe I didn’t accrue enough brownie points during the day to keep it at bay. Regardless, it certainly reared its ugly head this morning. No mones worn at the time. I’m in the middle of a workout atm so I’ll apply some IS after a bath.

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Yesterday was OK after a minor argument in the morning.

We went on a trip to the beach for a walk on the footpath’s. The journey was about 3/4 of an hour and as the sun was out (for a change) I thought it would be a good test of Instant Shine on the kids. The car was quite warm and I tried to keep it that way, within reason, to help the mones diffuse.

4x Instant Shine - 2 sprays each side of the neck. One spray split between the inside of each wrist and a spray to the top of the head.

The journey there was quite wasn’t too bad… when you compare it to the return journey. :roll_eyes:

but then I suppose 3 kids on the back seat one with ADHD and Tourettes and the other with Atypical Autism is asking for trouble. I suspect more IS would have helped, especially a top up for the return journey, but I am trying to conserve it until I place my next order. I’d love to try A314 for this sort of a scenario too.

I wonder how much of an effect IG would have on the kids behaviour and whether A314 used daily as a base might be better. How would that affect my SO? The last image she would accept of me is as the boss like figure. We’ll see, maybe A314 is just the ticket. :smiley:

Anyhow my SO’s sister is down today with her kids and I’m all out of AMMO :frowning: Shame, I’d love to see if there were any effects on a someone who didn’t know my phero sig very well. I have already decided NOT to apply any TUTH. She ghost’s me enough as it is LOL and I am worried about my SO’s PMS.

Instant Shine FTW

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Not much to report so far.

Both sets of kids are the usual - CRAZY

I don’t usually ‘interact’ much when my SO’s sister is down - they like to talk their talk…

I’ll see if I can spend a little time with them later - I’ll top up before I do (already added x2 IS about an hour after first application.

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I said yesterday that I wouldn’t but I did.

There was this moment…

This is something I will be keeping an eye on as it may have been nothing or it may have been my SO fighting the TUTH. Roll on IH and IS combo - need to place an order soon.

As for today, I am going to be IS free today - it is too precious to waste - I’ll wait until her PMS cranks up a notch.

(I know this sounds terrible talking about PMS like this but it shows how we are all at the whim of our hormones. (just look at the moodiness thyroid problems cause or for those “athletes/bodybuilders” that choose to supplement with naughty stuff) It’s just a nightmare being at the wrong end of all it all) :frowning:

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Following on from yesterday’s experiment. I again wore TUTH 5.0mcg on the same application points. 4 sprays. Once again there was no apparent effect. She was tired again and still feeling the effects of the sun from yesterday.

I must point out that my partner still has the remnants of a cold although I thought I had some response to the mones previously when the cold was at it’s heaviest, although I was wearing AMMO 2012 and Instant Shine at that time.

Also, whilst things are OK between us atm they are not brilliant. I have been keeping my head down and trying not to open my mouth too much though LOL

Time is ticking though and her time of the month is due any day now. I think I may just try another dose of TUTH tonight with a cover sent.

I was thinking 4 sprays again but I am tempted to go higher. I know I shouldn’t. I’ll have a think about it.

It’s worth pointing out though. There are no arguments in the evenings. A couple of minor things in the morning that are soon cleared up probably because I am generally keeping my thoughts to myself and I am striving for brownie points.

To TUTH or not to TUTH
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Going back to when I ordered my first couple of batches of mones I bought a cheap EDT to cover them. I was concerned at the time that my SO would notice the smell. I was quite worried actually as I haven’t worn any aftershave or any other scent for a long time and I thought it might look a bit suspicious. So to cover that up (Lots of cover ups going on LOL) I started talking to my partner about scents and even ordered samples of scents I’ve never tried. So when my various batches of mones arrive I can always say it’s the samples - that’s the idea anyway.

So I apply this cheap EDT to cover 4 sprays of TUTH and it almost totally masked the mones (to me anyway). I’ve noticed that TUTH is very animalistic smelling despite the neroli. I was almost convinced I’d applied Instant Shine by mistake.

Nothing untoward happened. She was chilled. I added another 2 sprays. Still the same. We watched a TV show. We chatted awhile and then went to sleep. And no arguments! :slight_smile: I thinkTisha was right when she said that it can be comforting around that time of the month… as long as I do no wrong.

There may be other factors. She noticed herself that it has been a good week mood wise. She attributed that to taking Evening Primrose Oil. I’m not sure if it is just that because I thought she’d been taking that for a while. She’s also started taking Sea Kelp Supplements which is supposed to help regulate hormones. She started taking those a few days ago. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Most likely it is a combination of all of the above.

So tonight I’ll just wear 2 sprays of TUTH and keep it that way for the next few days. I’ll be placing my next order for mones as soon as I find out the next Hump Day special :smiley:

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Things are a bit shitty atm

2 sprays of regular IS either side of the neck for self effects ONLY

Not wasting any mones on her today

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Did I say that? ^^^^^

A lovely package arrived this morning, courtesy of still18

TAC 7.5mcg Neroli ToGo :slight_smile:

I have IS on at the moment.

The other half is out atm and my mood has lifted (IS? don’t think so - just the fact that she’s not bugging me is a great help!)

Anyway, I’ll be saving most of this TAC as a buffer for my TUTH, but today I have little IS on. I’ll apply two sprays of TAC before she comes home.

She has the boys with her so no doubt they’ll be fighting and she’ll be in the best mood ever on her return - NOT

Let’s see if I can be congruent enough with 2 sprays of TAC. This isn’t going to be easy as one of the sticking points of yesterday’s argument is not resolved and it is very unlikely it ever will be. It’s not something I can really explain here, but suffice to say that it is likely to continually annoy the fuck out of me if I compromise. She doesn’t do compromise at all.

Here’s hoping… :open_mouth:

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Really looking forward to your results and the effects of TAC on your woman :slight_smile:

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so far so good :slight_smile:

I laid a little groundwork before she came home via text - just to let her know I was keeping busy while she was out.

She came in with a bit of attitude - nothing like what she left with nut it was still there.

I drew her in and kissed her several times - nothing passionate. She smiled. It now seems almost as though the argument never happened!

I’m sure it won’t all be plain sailing today. I’ll try a few more sprays this evening and just a couple of TUTH. I’m not looking for anything to happen but if it keeps the peace then I’ll be happy. :smiley:

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Date: 25 July

Product: TAC
Strength: 7.5mcg
Size: ToGo
Amount: x4

Application points: neck and lower jaw area

Product: TUTH
Strength: 5mcg
Size: 30ml
Amount: x2

Application points: neck and lower jaw area layered after about 10 mins

Temperature: 25C

Environment: indoors lounge/bedroom and out in the backyard. initial application was after a bath and after scrubbing previous application points to ensure as much of the previous mones were removed.

Self Effects: Felt a little light headed after 2nd application of TAC otherwise nothing noticeable. A light headache developed later that evening but may not be related as I woke up with the same headache and was generally feeling a little unwell.

Effects after 1-2 hours:
My partner continued to act as though the previous day’s argument never happened. This is unusual behaviour. This argument continued the morning of my first application of TAC noted in my previous journal entry. I was quite busy so I didn’t have a lot of contact with my partner after initial application. I popped out the shops briefly - no apparent hits.

Top up: additional 2 sprays of TAC to the neck
Effects after 2 1/2 hours: I popped out the shops, again quite brief - no apparent hits.

Top up: additional 1 spray of TUTH to the neck
Effects after 3-5 hours: Spent about 30 mins in the backyard chatting with my partner. Sat down, relaxed in the warm evening about foot apart from each other. My partner was chilled. then next hour was spent. Spent the next hour on chores. We settled down to watch a documentary which we bother enjoyed. I encouraged her to snuggle in and initiated sexual contact.

Top up: finally 2 sprays of TAC to the top of the head
Effects after 5-6 hours: One final round of chores before bed. I again initiated sexual contact. We had sex.

Intensity of Orgasm: normal for me and her

Thoughts: Sex after an argument is not usual behaviour for my partner. She just doesn’t do that make up thing with me. We have some deep seated problems in our relationship. Her orgasms have been subdued since the birth of our daughter 6 years ago. She attributes this to a lack of trust and OCD. (during the ‘moment of truth’ our arguments usually surface in her head and this kills it for her). I thought TAC might help her relax more and perhaps help towards resolving this issue. After talking to her about it last night she conceded there were still trust issues. I have IH on my list of planned purchases along with other mones to help with these issues. i will be experimenting more with TAC at different dosages.

I’d like to be clear that these issues are my fault - I used to say hurtful things during arguments. I didn’t understand why at the time. I know now that it was a lack of maturity on my part and the fact that I was unhappy in the relationship. I am not happy now but I am trying because we have a beautiful daughter and two stepsons that need my support.

Of course the other thing and this is the killer… I was completely and I mean completely honest with her from the start. I now know that everyone needs to keep some things to themselves. Even if it means secrets and even if it means lying. That was a mistake I cannot undo. The ‘not so secret’ secrets… I liked porn and used to watch it with my then GF and I had a threesome with a mate and a girl we picked up… No big deal for most, I know, but her background (of previous abusive relationships and sexual abuse as a child) meant it was something abhorrent to her :frowning:

I now have A1 on my list which I’ll probably get from Love Scent. I also have other recommendations to pick up along with some of the MX series to help with the OCD and anxiety issues.

Thanks to all those who have offered advice/suggestions, and thanks once again to still18 for the TAC - it’s is very much appreciated.

So bottom line on TAC/TUTH it worked! Not quite the result that others have had but considering all things that was definitely a result.

To TUTH or not to TUTH
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Date: 26 July

Product: TAC
Strength: 7.5mcg
Size: ToGo
Amount: x2

Application points: either side of the neck

Product: TUTH
Strength: 5mcg
Size: 30ml
Amount: x1

Application points: Adam’s Apple

Product: IS
Strength: regular
Size: 30ml
Amount: x2

Application points: top of the head

Temperature: 25C

Environment: walk down the beach with partner and 3 kids.

Self Effects: none.

Effects after 1-2 hours:
No apparent hits as there was slight breeze and didn’t really look for contact.

I rowed with my partner after she accused me of seeing me do something I just did not do. I won’t go into the details here as I don’t want my journal overrun with my relationship problems. This wasn’t the mones at work, despite the documented effects of TUTH and PMS because she has done this to me so many times. In fact she had a pop at me the last time I went for a walk down the beach with her.

Anyway this looks like this might be the final straw but I’ve placed an order for mones this evening anyway. Unfortunately I ordered something that has to be custom made - probably one of the MX’s - I didn’t realise they were made to order. I might not be here to receive them if I leave (as I have been asked to) next week because I took my car off the road to do some maintenance work while we had nice weather. The car will back on the road early next week when I receive the parts I need to finish the job.

I ordered

IG 30ml
IH ToGo
TAC [10mcg] 30ml
A314 oil
Instant Shine [x2]
HEAVY AMMO
MX412

I went for the ToGo size of IH because I may not get the chance to use it much with partner (ex?) and I may well be moving and looking for a job etc so it makes sense to have IG and A314. The MX412 is there to test and I wanted to try something in Akuto. The TAC is there because it seems to be so awesome and if I get to use it with my partner great if not who cares? All the rest are self explanatory.

Hopefully it won’t be too long to ship but if I have left here then I’ll give DHL a call and get them to deliver to my folks house.