Official MX414 discussion thread, men: UF2 pack diffusion test reports

Pheromone Science MX Test Results
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**Date: August 28-29th 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX414

2. Purpose of Application
MX414 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Caffeine rush effect.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Aggressive in an attractive way.

5. Location
Bar/Club/Campus

6. Environment
Sunday/Monday Transition

7. People’s Reaction
Realized that I didn’t actually try 1S of MX414. Should have done that before I went on 2S.

Now this is interesting. I usually start any mixes on 1S but apparently probably due to my sub-conscious mind, I started off with 2 because I was not able to smell any -none.

This actually affected the results which I had gotten over the week as pretty invasive.

The past two days, I decided to tone it down to just 1S and observe the effects around people.

In one word.

wow.

Noticed that socializing wise, people around me were active and not as aggressive as compared to 2S of this mix.

I was pretty tired-out after my Saturday night escapade with two wonderful ladies. But managed to get my butt off the chair to meet out with another group of long-time friends I’ve not met for about a year.

And man, was I lucky to have done so.

I met up with one of them first, she couldn’t recognize me, it’s the typical reaction which you get in the shows of the biggest loser and extreme makeover, where the dramatic unveiling of massive change of appearance and appeal suddenly impacts people.

My co-mentor mentioned this to me, “You have an ability to somehow change your appearance to suit the occasion at will. You appear amazingly different in just a short time span of a week-by-week basis. You can appear as a young gentlemen as well as a much older and wiser man depending on the event. You are like a chameleon. Not only do you change your appearance, but you are also able to change your mood and scent.”

Well I’ve already more or less gotten used to the whole “OMG you changed so much” dramatic scenes over the past year, so just dealt with it casually.

What interested me in that particular group was one of the girls that I had a crush on during high school. Nice to know that she really grew up really nicely. She somehow turned up and I had to re-introduce myself to her after she opened me.

As usual, went through the OMG reaction and somehow things just became more and more kinometic. We started to flirt around. The group saw this and the girls in the group began to eye-code. I hit them with the girl-code DIHL story and immediately got giggles and the guys looked at me as if I was a man with the black book on girls.

It’s amazing how perception can really change after years of self-improvement. I wasn’t the cool guy or the alpha guy 2-3 years ago. Someone else was.

Anyway, she casually mentioned after about an hour or so that we should meet up more often. Honestly I was really tempted to. I didn’t really got the chance to open up to her and kept my feelings to myself through these years. Here is a girl, who I had a crush on years ago that is now giving me interest because I changed myself.

Decided to go on a date with her the next day. Picked her up from work and went to a walk down town area.

We just, chatted.

Still loads of flirting and laughter. Really enjoyed each other’s company and felt that it was really more of a couple type of feeling than anything.

End of the story, this girl wasn’t as aggressive as the rest of the women I met throughout the whole of the week of MX414 test. This was different in a way that my personal past emotions came into play.

She was REALLY flirty and so was I. It was like a psychological emotional connection when I was engaging with her. As I flipped the attraction switches one-by-one, from the group meet up to the casual date, I could see her eyes glittering and head nodding and smile widening.

Honestly I didn’t want to give her false hopes. Dropped hints that I wasn’t looking for a relationship. She seemed to get it at the end of the date. Sent her home, got to the door.

I only thought that this happened in the movies, but it seemed as if time stood still when she was shyly waiting at the door. I could more or less sense that she was asking me to come in.

The next day was a public holiday, so yes, it was a very sensual night.

8. Summary
Strength
Same as two sprays, cannot smell the -none, but crept up during sex.

Length of Effects
People really remember this particular signature. I went into the office with just 1S and could immediately see the difference of people’s reactions. They were ALOT less aggressive and less kinometic, especially the ladies. However, we were able to connect psychological SOO much better.

Tenacity
More subtle than 2S, but it really blew open the connections with each individual. Instead of a roller coaster ride, at 1S, it seemed to actually give more of a cloud effect than a laser guided missile.

Effectiveness
Effective up till 10 hours, similar to 2S.

Diffusion/Silage
In one word. Mood. At 2S, its a overdrive of smoke of diffusion, at 1S, it’s a light mist of aura, people feel the vibe, they aren’t aware of it, it makes the whole environment NATURAL.

At 2S, the whole thing seemed SUPERFICIAL.

At 1S

  1. Better dosage for work.
  2. Less is more.
  3. Better for lower energy, 1-to-1 connection.
  4. Sex is more sensual than aggressive.
  5. Bypasses the placebo effect, AMAZINGLY WELL.
  6. People seem to be in a trance and they simply just smile. Easily.
  7. More natural than 2S.

Taken From: Journal Entry, August 28-29, 2011

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Good point P51. Additionally, for those of us that tested UF, I think part of the reason we limited ourselves to one spray was also due to the intensity of the scent. While I like ff21, more than one spray would feel like over kill. Btw, you should try this pack out, I’d love to see what your results are with it.

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Detailed, what i wanted to see because i wear it at work, cannot wait to try it at 1 spray… nominated

85

Yeah I’m trying to move shit around. Budget is really tight lately and normally I’d have time to go to user intros and get points, I haven’t even had time to do that. I’m pretty sure they’ll have it within the next couple of weeks, hopefully things will straighten out. Either way I still got a buncha MX’s and putatives to test. Maybe Wednesday we’ll see.

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Love your reports Mustang :slight_smile: You can always rediscover existing mones, pretty interesting to always give them a revisit :smiley:

87

Im just poppin in:

414 is giving me hits around 4 ft. It is not reaching as far as it did while in the heavy putrid cover of FF21. The molecules are taking a bit longer to hit targets as well. I feel that it is sticking closer to me and because of this it is causing more self effects. I have been clinching my jaw alot while wearing this which leads me to believe that it has more -none in it than I originally thought when trying it in the original pack.

What I will say is that it is putting me on everyone’s radar. That is both good and bad. Ladies are noticing me, but men are very aware of me. I have caught alot of side looks from alot of dude. They are very aware that I am present. Most of the time it appears that they really arent happy about it. There has been noticable agressiveness. Not so much in me though. I watched a group of guys having a normal convo all start yelling at each other. There was an onslought of swearing and really inappropriate comments about each others girlfriends. Its worth noting that it wasnt a short outburst, the aggression continued for a good amount of time which reminds me of hits consistant with high -none, P79 and P83. More testing is needed.

My Pherocios Findings-The Journal Of JesseJester
88

I had a Lesser Effect from MX415 then I Did from MX414… Both Worked just the MX415 was Weaker in Attraction and Yeah it Kinda Has a Funk to it After Awhile… I was Thinking it was Just the Place I was Testing was Hot… Cheap Bar Owners Keep turning Off the AC at Night… I’m going in Order so I’ll Hitting MX416 sometime Soon…

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**Date: August 30th - Sept 1st

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX415

2. Purpose of Application
MX415 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Caffeine rush effect.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Aggressive in an attractive way.

5. Location
Campus/Office

6. Environment
Happy mood in office, public holidays in between.

7. People’s Reaction
So right, MX415. Effects wise, similar towards MX414, however, would like to note that the range is really short compared to MX414.

The -none was covered, but the lifetime of the cover only lasted about 30 minutes at most.

Began to really smell the -none after I reached the 1 hour mark.

In that sense, people could more or less still be affected by the mones, but the scent probably affected them more than the mones itself.

Thank god I tried this during the down-period of the week, not a lot of fishes during this week, only the small pawns in the office.

More or less everyone didn’t bother with me much, gave approving nods but more or less went their own way about doing things.

Tried to smile a lot but was in a major aggressive mood in my inside game. Was really tempted to spray on some IS on the third day but resisted just to see the congruent effects.

This was probably one of the rare times since I more or less was very near ghosting. Not that it mattered much during this week, but good to notice to stay away from MX415 for work and office wear.

People do notice you, but not in a sparklish way. They notice you as someone who stands out because something somewhere doesn’t seem right for some reason.

Would like to add that a friend mentioned, “You seem slightly different the past few days, anything interesting happening?” - She’s usually quite conservative and keep comments to herself, so it’s something quite out of the ordinary, for her.

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, but scent came back after time span of 30 minutes. Full blast after an hour.

Length of Effects
Although it did generate similar effects of MX414, the positive effects only lasted during the first 10-15 minutes of the application. Peaked at 25 minutes, and started to die off at minute 50-60 minute mark

Tenacity
Opened conversations effortlessly but had trouble retaining control. People seemed eager to enter and eager to eject once they get nearer to you.

Effectiveness
Effective in terms of hiding the scent? Not as much as MX414. Range wise, roughly about 1m. People stay away more than anything the close they get. Came as too overbearing after awhile.

Diffusion/Silage
People are aware of it. They can sense something is out of the ordinary, whether or not in a good or bad way. It is apparent the nearer they get to you where they start to inhale the scent.

  1. Good positive effects beyond 1m mark.
  2. The closer they are, the more aware they are.
  3. Ejection button when they reach a arm length’s distance.
  4. Not a good choice for work and co-operative play

Will test this out in field. More than anything, hope that it would be better during high energy environment… lol.

Official MX415 discussion thread, men: UF2 reports from a night out and work
90

8-31-11

Quantity: Mx 414 1 spray to the neck
Cologne cover: n/a
Environment: work
Self Effects:
Effects on Others:
Range: 6-12 feet

I think this mix is either hit or miss with me, for the past two weeks I have gotten solid hits. This week I have gotten little, next to nothing. The only thing I noticed was Jenn calling me sexy a few times, but she used to do that before I wore mones around her.

There one reason for this, I have none build up and I need to take another day off.

So I’m going to try taking today off and see how it works out.

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I took another look over this thread and have a bunch of questions for all of you. Even though I ask one question to one person and not the other, answer with as much detail as you can anyway, so we can clarify the effects of the Stealth Diffusion Technology on the pheromix!

Thanks dudes!!

YES, you should grab UF2! I can’t think of anyone better qualified to test UF2. And I think the Stealth Diffusion will blow you away.

Sweet hit, man.

What was the diffusion curve? When did you notice onset? How long were you “surprised you can still smell it”?

How fast is fast?

Hey giants5200. Do you have UF1, too? How does it compare?

LOL @ the guy jumping up and down.

Interrrestinggg…

Yes, quite fascinating.
What did you smell? Could you smell/identify the pheros under the Stealth Diffusion?

Hey smelly. Do you notice a sillage (vapor trail)? Do you notice phero effects at a distance? (If so, what distance?) OH! And what environment are you testing in? (closed room, low ventilation, approx 74% humidity, filled with people who are sweaty and diffusing themselves, etc etc etc.)

Don’t want this to get too long, so I will stop here and come back for more feedback in a little while.

Looking forward to your answers!!

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Thanks guys for all your awesome feedback.

This was all with MX414? What was your dosage range? And what environment was this tested in? (Closed/Open air. approx humidity. concentration of people, etc etc).

As for -none, how did you fare with the original UF equivalent, MX391?

We dosed this ideally to work at a 2 spray dosage. What have been your experiences at this dosage?

It sounds like the smell of the none is really cutting through for you, dude! You’re already a high none guy I hear. Was there a point in dosage where the none smell was more prominent?

Thanks Pandakun. Did you test both 414 and 415 under similar circumstances? What was the environment like?

Dude Oasis314, you win for “nicest report layout”. Other guys, take note! This is exactly how we like it!

Oh, and kudos for wearing a sex mix at the office.

And YES, the Stealth Diffusion Technology likely WILL affect the effects of the mix. This is a MAJOR reason why we are observing you guys’ results so closely… so we know the differences in effects. Definitely note these when you are out in the field.

You guys are so crazy wearing this to work. It was designed for pre-game at bars and stuff. That sort of thing. Hats off to you, man.

Hmmmmm. How long did it take before it smelled floral to when it smelled ‘not showered’?

Oh and I know you’ve probably mentioned this 1000 times before, but what kind of store do you work in?

Which scent intensifies after the hour? The underlying pheromone smell or the floral note?

My Pherocios Findings-The Journal Of JesseJester
Official MX415 discussion thread, men: UF2 reports from a night out and work
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Yes, Both Tests (MX414 and MX415) Where Done Similar Locations with Similar Heat and Humidity… Temp was about 85 F and the Humidity was in the 70’s… There was Air Movement thanks to Some Fans So that Affected Sillage I would Venture…

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That’s the thing. I couldn’t smell anything. I just had this odd urge to keep sniffing it though. Maybe because I was so intent on seeing “if” I could smell anything. As to the second part: No I couldn’t. I’m in that crowd that can’t smell mones as easily, IE I can’t smell -none unless it’s completely unscented or I can’t smell A-1.

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414 stays close to the skin for me john. I was in a open room about 70 degrees and low humidity, I had the air on so the ventilation was fine.

96

2.5 sprays of MX414 sides of neck
Venue: work

The smell dried down within like five minutes from application. I can give a very distinct nol smell from this, much like the ones from the nol test pack. I took at risk wearing this at work but I figured why the heck not. A client came in with his daughter, but she had to be in her late 40’s. This is a strictly professional environment and I thought to myself this is definitely going to backfire on me. She sits on the seat closer to me and we proceed with the business at hand. Because of the practically non existing scent I noticed she was leaning in closer to me. I was speaking loud enough that there wouldn’t be a problem hearing me. Anyways I kept thinking to myself damn this lady is really sitting close. I thought she was just very attentive. When she left I shook hands And I get the over the shoulder look and smile. Hmm.

There was also this young girl next to me when I was getting lunch. Didn’t pay too much mind to her cause she looked young. We left almost at the same time and she held the door open. I said thanks and smiled, I walked away in tangent with her and I’m not sure but from the corner of my eye I coulda sworn she looked at me as I was trailing away.

I was no more than 3 feet from the subjects, the girl was like 10 min after app, and the woman was probably half hour tops. Unstaffed smelling -none around the 2 hour mark with nothing too noticeable at the 5-6 hour mark. With ammo, tuth, ij you can smell te none residue like 10 hours and even after showering. I had nothing I could smell wen I cleaned my app spots up for tonights test. I’ve tested UF at work before, and nothing noticeable with baseline persons just like the first pack.

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2.5 sprays of MX414 sides of neck
Venue: work

The smell dried down within like five minutes from application. I can give a very distinct nol smell from this, much like the ones from the nol test pack. I took at risk wearing this at work but I figured why the heck not. A client came in with his daughter, but she had to be in her late 40’s. This is a strictly professional environment and I thought to myself this is definitely going to backfire on me. She sits on the seat closer to me and we proceed with the business at hand. Because of the practically non existing scent I noticed she was leaning in closer to me. I was speaking loud enough that there wouldn’t be a problem hearing me. Anyways I kept thinking to myself damn this lady is really sitting close. I thought she was just very attentive. When she left I shook hands And I get the over the shoulder look and smile. Hmm.

There was also this young girl next to me when I was getting lunch. Didn’t pay too much mind to her cause she looked young. We left almost at the same time and she held the door open. I said thanks and smiled, I walked away in tangent with her and I’m not sure but from the corner of my eye I coulda sworn she looked at me as I was trailing away.

I was no more than 3 feet from the subjects, the girl was like 10 min after app, and the woman was probably half hour tops. Unstaffed smelling -none around the 2 hour mark with nothing too noticeable at the 5-6 hour mark. With ammo , tuth , ij you can smell The Edge none residue like 10 hours and even after showering. I had nothing I could smell wen I cleaned my app spots up for tonights test. I’ve tested UF at work before, and nothing noticeable with baseline persons just like the first pack.

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So after I wiped off the work testing, I decided to spray 2 more on. I was going out with a friend to grab some drinks. I knew where I was testing so I had baselines on literally everyone there.

I had two on the sides of the neck, was dressed well and went out for some fun.

See the thing about the UF pack is sometimes it really does have a repellant effect. I know all these girls, they all know me and are already comfortable. I felt like I was getting a push reaction with most of them tonight until about 2 hours after application, that’s really when they started acting more normal with me. Two sprays might be a little too overbearing. I know 1 spray worked for a lot but I wanted to do two cause JS said it was designed for it so I wanted to keep the testing to their parameters, but initially I think its still way too strong, in terms of MX414 at least.

I have a good friend there, her and I get along, and she’s taken, and I’m really cool with her SO, and I was even getting no reactions from her. Usually she’s hanging out, joking and having fun, but nope wasn’t happening tonight. All three bartenders I knew, and we’re all friends too, I never hit on them or tried anything and we all know everything is strictly platonic. They were also away from me for most of the time I was there. #1 finally talked to us, and her and I talk all the time and it was only till about two hours later that she was herself again.

G usually stays and talk, and she was pushed away too. P came by and I think it might have hit her a little bit better because we were both talking like how we used to back then and that was about three hours after application. Overall I thought more would happen in terms of the hits, but I think it was a -none OD and since I work IJ + P96 the night before, 2.5x of this during the day, and two more for the night time, there had to be some -none build up.

It was like I had a bubble around me tonight.

I’m going out with Z and T tonight, so I’m gonna clean the app spots real well and see how this goes tonight.

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So after I wiped off the work testing, I decided to spray 2 more on. I was going out with a friend to grab some drinks. I knew where I was testing so I had baselines on literally everyone there.

I had two on the sides of the neck, was dressed well and went out for some fun.

See the thing about the UF pack is sometimes it really does have a repellant effect. I know all these girls, they all know me and are already comfortable. I felt like I was getting a push reaction with most of them tonight until about 2 hours after application, that’s really when they started acting more normal with me. Two sprays might be a little too overbearing. I know 1 spray worked for a lot but I wanted to do two cause JS said it was designed for it so I wanted to keep the testing to their parameters, but initially I think its still way too strong, in terms of MX414 at least.

I have a good friend there, her and I get along, and she’s taken, and I’m really cool with her SO, and I was even getting no reactions from her. Usually she’s hanging out, joking and having fun, but nope wasn’t happening tonight. All three bartenders I knew, and we’re all friends too, I never hit on them or tried anything and we all know everything is strictly platonic. They were also away from me for most of the time I was there. #1 finally talked to us, and her and I talk all the time and it was only till about two hours later that she was herself again.

G usually stays and talk, and she was pushed away too. P came by and I think it might have hit her a little bit better because we were both talking like how we used to back then and that was about three hours after application. Overall I thought more would happen in terms of the hits, but I think it was a -none OD and since I work Instant Jerk + P96 the night before, 2.5x of this during the day, and two more for the night time, there had to be some -none build up.

It was like I had a bubble around me tonight.

I’m going out with Z and T tonight, so I’m gonna clean the app spots real well and see how this goes tonight

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**Date: 1st Sept 2011

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX415

2. Purpose of Application
MX415 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Caffeine rush effect.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Aggressive.

5. Location
Bar/Club

6. Environment
Friday Vibe.

7. People’s Reaction
I was really reluctant to test this out in a bar/club setting to be honest. Was tempting to bring with me some IS in case things go bad. But it seems that I didn’t need to.

So it’s a Friday, sad for me, love my job :slight_smile:

But hey, more testing in bars and clubs.

Decided to move alone that Friday night, went to a regular bar. Because of my previous testing in the office, decided to apply it straight only after I arrived at the bar and club.

Reached and did the usual follow up with the staff, their turnover of staff seems to be even more often these past few days.

Went to the gents and hit myself up with 1S of MX415.

Waited for the dry down after 5 minutes and quickly open a set nearby. Conversation went well. Noticed that guys seem quiet and girls seemed flirty. Was eyeballing them one by one and giving them the girl code look. Hit them with a DHV story and hooked one of them to open and merge another set nearby.

Note that I was really relying on my social skills rather than mones at this point.

I could sense that guys were really more likely to give way towards me towards the girls. I could not sense that they were giving threats in terms of pushing me away.

Had to engage girls by kino through some routines and went well.

When I hit the 25 minute mark, which was the peak on my previous tests, I went straight into isolating. Went smoothly.

So 1-on-1.

this is where this shines.

Girl was really sweet, in her late ten’s. Chatted with her and went about building comfort. I noticed that after we sat on the couch, the mood went into a cloud on its own.

It’s like there a space between the environment and the conversation. I was not really pulling much onto the strings and engaging. She was the one engaging most of the time. I was laid back and she was reeled in whenever I gave her a quiet gaze and smile.

After an hour or so, where the scent of -none seems to really kick in, the space between the environment and us grew bigger. People didn’t seem to pay much attention to our little conversation, people danced by, I didn’t get much attention from others.

However.

The attention of the girl I was with, skyrocketed.

It was as if there’s a bubble of space. We were in our own cloud and the noise from the outside world disappeared.

After the hour mark, she was literally engaging kino all the way. We didn’t shift our location but lets just say that there was major kino going about.

Throughout the whole night, she uttered the one phrase that left me smiling, “You smell soooo different.”

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, but scent came back after time span of 30 minutes. Full blast after an hour.

Length of Effects
Similar effects to MX414 after the 25 minute mark but transforms after the first hour.

Tenacity
Ejection button constantly after they get nearer, especially after the one hour mark.

Effectiveness
Effective in 1-to-1 with strong foundation. Have to use it with established skills or already established relationships.

Diffusion/Silage
Same as in office, but it seems that when people are attracted and you are already building comfort, this seems to strengthen that close kino effect.

  1. Wow for 1-to-1 where attraction and comfort is on the way.
  2. Great if you want guys around you to go away.
    3. You put up a “Do-Not-Disturb” sign after the hour has past.
Official MX415 discussion thread, men: UF2 reports from a night out and work
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**Date: 2nd Sept 2011 - Night

  1. Pheromones Used**
    1S MX415

2. Purpose of Application
MX415 Testing

3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes
Caffeine rush effect.

4. Self Effects after 3 hours
Aggressive.

5. Location
Bar/Club

6. Environment
Saturday, air conditioned vibe.

7. People’s Reaction
So I met up with my friend again after last Saturday’s encounter. Was seriously wondering whether to switch back to MX414 given her good reactions to it initially but decided to try out MX415, would make a good comparison for that night anyway.

Usual, sprayed it on only before I met her.

She looked DEAD gorgeous that night.

Since I was with her in the first hour, it was a lot easier to open up other groups this time. Entered the club and sets flew open during the first 15 minutes. after dry down.

Noticed she kept clinging on to me the more I opened, giving stares towards other girls when we were trying to open sets.

After 30 minutes or so, she literally dragged me away from the conversation and we got onto the dance floor.

Oh MX415, what have you done?

It was insane.

I’ve noticed that the previous night there seemed to be a bubble, that however was in an isolated area, it gave the EXACT same effects during the dance at the dance floor.

She was literally engaging kino the whole entire night. Felt like we were putting up a in-the-heat show in the middle of the dance floor.

After the hour passed by, she dragged me towards the vip room.

MX414 at 1S?

Sensual.

MX415 at 1S after an hour?

A very wild ride.

8. Summary
Strength
After dry down, only slight scent, but scent came back after time span of 30 minutes. Full blast after an hour.

Length of Effects
Similar effects to MX414 after the 25 minute mark but transforms after the first hour.

Tenacity
Ejection button constantly after they get nearer, especially after the one hour mark. But the target stays with you.

Effectiveness
Effective in 1-to-1 with strong foundation. Have to use it with established skills or already established relationships.

Diffusion/Silage
Same as in office, but it seems that when people are attracted and you are already building comfort, this seems to strengthen that close kino effect.

  1. Even at a high energy environment, effects is pronounced.
  2. If you have already established very good 1-to-1 relations this is the bomb after it hits the 1 hour mark.
  3. If you had sexual relations before and there is intention this is overkill.
    4. NOT FOR WORK
    5. STRICTLY FOR SOLO USE
  4. AMAZING for ISOLATION.
Official MX415 discussion thread, men: UF2 reports from a night out and work
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