Hello to all phero buddies, friends & all in Pherotalk, i just got one question to ask you all that is am i fat like badly overweight? You can notice my avatar pic there & tell me what do you think in your honest opinion.
Thanks 
Well how much do you weigh and how tall are you? If you’re not happy with the way you look just exercise a few times a week and eat healthy. You’ll be in shape in no time.
Oh no! don’t say fat. You definately don’t look obese at all, silly!
Plus, you don’t want to be so super skinny and bone-y, it helps to have some meat lol 
I hope the media didn’t make you doubt your perception about yourself. If you feel much better hitting the gym and eating healthy, go ahead. But if you feel like it’s not necessary that’s perfect too. Do what seems right to you.
damn, I’d share my words of wisdom even further, but school is going to start in 7 hours, and I have to go to bed.
But yea, don’t think that way! Don’t call yourself fat!!! lol
I’d rather a man with extra meat, than feel bones if it makes you feel better (but I’m telling ya the truth!)
I think this entirely depends on yourself! If you are perfectly happy with your weight it’s great and you don’t need to change anything. If you are not, do something about it. Go hit the gym (both cardio and weight lifting), eat healthy and reduce your alcohol intake (alcohol is the second most calorie dense stuff there is - right behind fat).
Phat, let’s be honest, you’re not stick thin, equally you’re hardly obese.
I could do with losing a few pounds myself, six foot 190lbs (1.83m, 88 kg). I don’t care.
Some girls like their men to be skinny, some (like Selva) like a bit of meat to grab hold of. We are all different, we are all individual. Now, would you rather be skinny, living on salad and feeling miserable or would you rather be grabbed by Selva 
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I’m off to get a bucket of icecream and enjoy myself and suggest that you do the same
You do not have the best body in the world but you are not fat. Most important is you re healthy and happy with your body.
You just had to mention icecream, eh? That’s my weak point. I could eat icecream all day long! Actually I have over the last few weeks… 
Well ctboarder, i’m not sure how much i weigh as i have not weight myself for a long time like a decade:o but my height is around 1.7 something if i remember. Anyway thanks for being the first to advice & appreciate it
Aww, that’s so sweet of you msselva 
, i knew you will be so caring there & thanks for the sweet advice Btw you surprised me there as you would prefer a guy with extra meat & not boneless, i thought you would prefer guys which are boneless
Well unfortunately the media & the industry here is very negative on overweight/fat people 
I considered myself overweight as this is based on people opinions & reactions towards me but i will follow like what you said, do what is right for myself
Franky speaking, i’m making a change for myself this year, i will try to lose a lot of kilos as i’m planning to take protein diet foods, slimming pills, slimming products & start on a very regime diet which if worst case scenario, i might starve myself 
Anyway thanks for dropping by & answering my thread.
Yes that’s right bubblebob, it is up to me to make a change there if i’m not satisfied with my weight & thanks for the advice , i keep in mind all you have said
Thank you for your honest reply there diamond, i appreciate it Unfortunately the people & the industry here does not think the same & are full of crap.
Yes msselva surprised me there with her preference but you gotta to admit typical girls would prefer a well toned guy compared to a overweight guy like you said skinny guys. I would rather be grabbed by msselva lol but not all girls think like our sweet msselva, here the girls are worse, very,very picky
I would want to have ice cream but i will have cut off my serving of it to watch my weight there.
I see thanks for your honest reply buddy , well unfortunately the people & the industry here don’t think like you guys so most probably i will be doing some changes hopefully for the best.
Hmm, so you like ice cream, interesting Which flavour will you like the most?
Phatsounds, If you want to lose weight, can I suggest you have a chat with Hazard, he’s the expert in fitness and nutrition.
Ok thanks for the info diamond, so Hazard is the guy to look for, well Hazard if you are there, do drop a reply
Thanks
I dont class you as fat from the pic. I dont know what is classed as fat medically, to me your not fat. Id say your more average size (which is in my opinion a good thing)
Positive change for your health is just that - positive change.
I would suggest sticking away from the slimming pills and extremely strict diet - Strict diets have a tendency to cause your body weight to YOYO which normally ends up with you weighing more then when you started AND much less healthy
Strict diets and metabolic diet pills (the kind that work) end up STARVING your body so that when your done your body is in starvation mode. As soon as you start eating you just pack on the pounds even if you are eating sensibly. You also lose muscle mass on an extemely low cal diet - converting 1 lb of fat to muscle mass means your body burns an extra 50 calories a day. The strict diet regimen tends to convert muscle to fat in the long run (BAD)
My suggestion is to go with a SENSIBLE diet (A good example is a 5 cycle diet - 4 days on 1500 cal and 1 day on 1800 cal, rinse and repeat)
(Quick note - for girls it’s 4X1400 cal and 1X1700 cal)
AND ADD EXERCISE into your daily activities.
Even if you don’t exercise - I read an article recently where they looked at the daily habits of a group of people - People in the overweight and obese categories burnt 350 calories PER DAY less then normal/sknny people simply because they move less (fidget less, walk around less)
If you are set on changing your weight - make it a lifestyle change and not just a “I wanna lose 20 lbs and then I’m done” change
Phatsounds, I can honestly say that never have I looked at your picture and thought of you as fat. I’ve always felt that the media portrays unhealthy and unrealistic ideas of what a “perfect” body should be.
You mentioned that most girls would go for the skinny guy. Well add me along with msselva on the list of girls who prefer a guy with extra weight to a guy with too little. Most of the time I find myself attracted to a guy, it’s not the guy with the traditionally perfect physique. I don’t know if that helps at all, but it is me being honest.
Same here, Phatsounds, on all counts. I would not say you are fat at all. And I don’t care for the skeeeeny guys.
LOL! hahaha, yea phat, would you like to be grabbed by me? lol jk jk! I’m not going to scare you lol
LOL! no prob sweetie. I don’t think that you need to stress about your weight at all. lol, yea, more meat is good, imagine sitting on his lap, and I feel his thigh bones…erk, I’d feel scared of cracking something. I remember this good looking guy in my class, but the only cons was that he was soooo skinny (even though he was fit and went to the gym) his legs were way thinner than mine and my sister’s (she’s a size 3 if it helps)…now that disturbs me! Cause then I think…omg, he looks fragile… It’s nice to have a man that is strong physically and confident (so weight doesn’t matter)
Fact, I had this massive, massive crush on this nurse (guy) at the hospital once, when my mom was ill at the emergency. He was the most sweetest thing ever personality-wise, I can’t describe it in words! lol, plus it helped that he was well-dressed even though he was over-weight. I’ve seen some over-weight people dress in the most tight-est and tiniest clothing in my city, and it shows lack of confidence, plus it’s not pleasant to the eye to see things popping out… but yea, the nurse was super well dressed, facially well-groomed, was incredibly sweet, so it over-took his weight issue, I didn’t think about it, until now! (he was probably overweight by 50 or 60lbs).
I’ve also seen cute skinny guys, it’s not bad to be naturally skinny either. Some people just have really fast metabolism, it’s like no matter how much they eat they remain skinny for eternity. lol, it’s okay, but personality-wise he better be a keeper lol
I knew it was the media…argg…them and their idealism. So ridiculous, that’s why they fu*k up many celebrities’ lives. Lindsay lohan, mary-kate-ashley, britney spears, hell Nicole Riche. Many of them became anorexic and really not attractive when they became just skin and bones. And they even needed to go to the re-hab or whatever it’s called. Meh, I guess fame and cash always comes with a curse.
I don’t like most of the actors my age…many look too skinny and too pretty by the media. Yeesh, do you know Zac Efron? lol, see, I think this guy is waay tooo pretty. He’s fit, weight-wise women/girls would have a thing for him…but he’s overdone imo, sometimes he looks like a wax doll/mannequin to me. Fake in other words.
If you still want to lose weight, just make sure you do it in a healthy, safe way.
When I used to be stupid. I used slim pills, and believe me, it’s a way of money, and you WILL gain your weight back right away, and even MORE! when you stop using them. And you can’t use them for a long time, it’s not healthy for your body, it used make me feel overly anxious.
Slimming products like slimfast is another way to burn money. Those granola bar (meal things are good) and good exercising and healthy eatting is the best way to go. You wont see the results in a month, but then you’ll start burning that excess weight off.
Don’t starve yourself silly!
LOL! Lecture is over and class is dismissed!
Thanks for your honest opinion agarrett I appreciate it
Hmm, interesting insight there Wrlprchnx, i will take note on what you have said there as it make sense to me Well not that i can’t exercise, i used to exercise a lot before but no weight loss & i even used slimming products together with exercise but zero weight loss
So that article that you read out stated people in overweight & obese categories are losing weight like 350 calories than normal/skinny people just simply because they move less, sorry to say this but i called that article a full BS. That’s in my own opinion btw.
And yeah i will make it my lifestyle change instead of the “I wanna lose 20 lbs and then I’m done” change Thanks
The article certainly rung true for me… I happen to be one of those natural skinny guys… the ones that eats like a pig and doesn’t gain weight.
I have to work out to get myself past 140 lbs… and generally I go as low as 130-135 if I’m even semi-active (irregardless of my nutrional intake)… I also happen to be extremely fidgety, even when I’m sitting down I don’t tend to sit still (my LTR hates it) - the only guy I know like myself (skinny by nature) is the exact same way - I dunno.. I guess sewing machine leg for 8 hours must burn some calories
Oh i see, well this is like kinda a weird thing because i’m trying to lose weight here while you are trying to gain weight there. Hmm, well i can understand how you feel being very fidgety even to sit down as i have seen people that suffer from it.
Btw sewing machine leg, what do you mean by that as i don’t get it so mind explaining?