OutreDame's PheroJouney

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Women's Journals
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** Ooh, had to change the title of my Journal…I thought I was being so clever and then just read a couple threads down to see there was already an “Adventures in PheroLand” lol! **

I got my very first shipment today, super fast and very excited. I ordered the to go of IS/b and IS, and I also got IO and TUTH as an extra gift…along with candy and a handwritten note on my order which I thought was really sweet :slight_smile:

One of my bottles spilled a little but, Im not sure which but from how bounce off the wall I was earlier, I do think it was the IS. But I really love how the neroli smells…very happy about that!

Okay, now Im already a very open and talkative person, so Im holding off on the IO for when Im alone to see how that affects me while Im wearing it before I go out and test it on the world! But now, the IS/b and IS, I got them to see what affect it would have on my ex, who has been warming up to me already a lot lately, but…still kind of on edge. So yeah, I was really very happy too to get TUTH in my package too.

At about 10:45a, after I got dressed I sprayed IS in the crick of my elblows then also rubbed my wrists over it before picking up kiddo from her slumber party. Personally, I felt great, really giddy, though maybe it as just because I was so excited to get my package..but then Im also very sensitive to…everything. If anything affects anyone its me. Kiddo was also already hyped up because she was excited about her slumber party and excitedly telling me all about it on the way home. Kind of like how I suspected, she was so giddy from the sleepover, that its hard to tell if IS had an effect on her.

So at 11:15a, I put one full spray of TUTH on my neck, and one full spray of IS/b just under, kind of on my chest area. I also sprayed IS on each shoulder, partly because I realized from the full sprays I got from the TUTH and IS/b that I wasnt actually spraying it in full earlier. So I venture to guess maybe 3-4 sprays total of the IS, and then one each of the TUTH and IS/b.

I stopped off at the drugstore…“act natural!” was going through my head…and nothing really happened, though I didnt really stand by or close to anyone for any length of time.

By 11:45 I was at my ex’s place, and like I did many times before, snuck in, told him good morning and lay down with him…and like he did many tiems before, he kissed me on my forehead then fell back asleep. And thats all she wrote till just about 1 when he got up and dashed into the shower to get ready for work.

Before he left, he gave me a hug and kissed me good bye, it was a nice long tight squeeze, but again, nothing unusual for us, and then he was off. So, Im here cursing myself out for not ust going for 2 sprays of the TUTH, or maybe of the IS/b, or maybe cause hes not such a sexually forward guy and really likes a softer type of sexy, 3 sprays of the IS/b, or maybe to make him into a really forward guy, 3 sprays of the TUTH…or or or…

…I just have to experiment :slight_smile: For sure though one spray of each was not enough…like I said I am sensitive to everything, and I have constantly raging hormones, but was not affected at all by the TUTH or the IS/b. Or maybe I was so steady concentrating on the effect it would/might have on him that I didnt feel it..I dont know. Also, usually he will tell me how amazing I smell..today he didnt. Im kind of guessing he doesnt like the neroli as much as I do…so Ill try a cover scent next time too.

Okay, so thats my first 4 hours with my first ever pheromones. Ill be alone for the next 4 hours, then back home…so no more chances to give it a twirl in public for today.

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Hi dame. Welcome to the community.

Good you have started posting here in journal section. interesting to read your report.

I hope by now, you must have read the threads for trying your sweet spot.
do read them in sticky section.

We all encourage new users to try 1 product at a time so you can understand clearly what it does to you. also it is a good idea to try smaller doses then bring them up gradually so to identify your sweet spot.
I can understand how you must be feeling to get your ex back. be patient, i am sure you can have him now, now when you have mones to give you that edge… next time when he kisses you good bye you give him a wink in reply… & he will go nuts for next some hours for sure to understand what it was… he he he… just kiddin…

keep testing. you can always post in women’s section if you want.you can also PM to the members, me as well, if really don’t want to write something in the forum & need some privacy…

enjoy have fun and keep trying your products.

Happy testing…
Anna

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Thanks so much Anna! I appreciate the encouragement… Yeah, I think I should have started with just one..instead of three of them at once…hah! Next time I think I will just go for the IS/b alone, and see how that does.

Of course, a lot of my point was for him to further associate me with feeling good, since hes so down all the time with a lot of things going on…so I should probably actually try the IS alone first. Plus I like how I felt when I first put it on.

And the TUTH is so tempting! Id love to up the ante with what we already have between us, and make him feel really good and positive, but the TUTH would be amazing if it worked in that department!

Decisions decisions!!!

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Alright, at about 4p I went out to pick up pizza, and since Im pretty sure everything I put on this morning has worn off, I went ahead and did two sprays of IS/b on my neck and head out with kiddo to get some din. On the way, kiddo was kind of quiet. Not the usual at all..we’re usually talking each others ears off at all times.

When we get there and in line…and the lady waiting in front of me whips around and looks a me, then looks at my daughter, then back at me and just smiles and turns around. Very random. Kiddo walks off to the side and shes standing there with this huge smile on her face…Im like..whatre you smiling about? And shes like..nuuuthin! And I ask her if shes thinking of something funny or a joke or something, and she says no..just smiling.

I go to make my order, blah blah, I order pizza like once a week from there (yes I know…Im horrible) and have seen this guy a million times. Hes always rushed and busy and kinda acts like he hates his job but in a civil kind of way lol Anyway, he actually smiles at me, which is a first, and as Im paying, he reaches under the counter, grabs a huge handful of cookie packets and hands them to kiddo. I didnt even know they had cookies under there!!!

On the way home kiddo starts laughing, and Im like..okay seriously tell me whats up! What are you thinking?!! And she tells me nothing really, shes just smiling cause shes smiling and the more she thinks about it the more it makes her giggle. Mind you, shes 14 years old and such a teenager. Really upbeat and cool, but still, not nearly this giddy for no apparent reason!

Im kind of unsure, like i didnt spray on any more IS and pretty sure from what Ive read that it would have worn off by then, cause it had been 6hours already, if I had lingered it would make sense that she was so uncontrollably happy!

I did ask her if she could smell my new perfume, and she said she didnt smell anything, I kept leaning in closer and saying “anything now?!” and she kept saying no…then she said yes..but I think she only said that cause I was getting annoying and to get me to stop leaning in closer lol sigh

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I dunno, hon, it sure does seem like something was affecting your daughter bigtime!!! Could have been a “hit,” so to speak. Good observations and very interesting.

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I’m curious about the TUTH. Since it’s formulated with the intention of men attracting women, you might want to go easy on it. Try a search for women and TUTH, there’s only 1 that I’ve seen post using it: Akela, I think. Or talk to Steve via PM or Tisha for some excellent guidance. Don’t want it backfiring on you.

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Yeah actually reading more and more into it, I think that maybe even just for his personality type, the TUTH is not the way to go. Maybe if it were someone else, but I have the feeling, he wasnt feeling it.

Im going to see him again tomorrow…I dont have to, but goodness, I need an excuse to so that I can keep trying out what works here! :slight_smile: But next time I see him, Im going to go with only one, and its going to be the IS/b. The two sprays I did this afternoon did get a response, so Im going to try that tomorrow, and then the next time I see him up it one more, and so on to figure out what my sweet spot for me and his reaction is.

Id like to do the same for the IS as well, to try it on its own to see what effect it has and find my sweet spot with that too… and then work on experiementing with the two together. I really went overboard today…I can admit it! lol

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I just texted and asked him…said that I got a new body oil and was curious to know what he thought of it…if it smelled okay to him or not cause Im not sure how I feel about it. I figured that way if it put him off in any way, hed say so…hes very honest in that way..that if he had any eh feeling at all hed tell me, but he replied saying he thought I smelled and felt fantastic close to him. So hard to read…maybe that it was first thing in the morning and he was up late, and that he had to get up and head to work on so little sleep was not the best time to test it out. Hrmmm…but still, any reaction at all would have been nice! Okay, will see…

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Okay, so I totally did not do anything I said I would…the total opposite actually!! Another pherobath day… I guess/hope the novelty will wear off and I will actually get to experimenting with what actually works instead of doing this.

2 sprays of IO in my hair
2 sprays of IS sweeping over each arm

I didnt really see or talk to anyone on my way to my ex’s place. The lady at the front desk was super nice to me, but then..shes always super nice to me so no difference. Walking down the hall to the elevators, I did 2 sprays of IS/b to each side of my neck. I ended up in the elevators with a guy, and hoping there would be a reaction (not cause I was interested…just…cmon a reaction! lol) and nada.

My ex was in the shower when I got in, and I did a third spray of IS/b on my chest. When he got out of the shower, I went and talked to him for a lil bit as he was getting ready…he was in a rush and kind of distracted though, but he did talk to me as he was getting ready, small talk but nothing reallly out of the ordinary. He did tell me his entire itinerary for the day, who he was seeing when and so on…not sure if that was the IO, or if it was just him, cause he does do that sometimes…

He came to give me a hug goodbye, and just like yesterday it was a really sweet tight hug…and also a kiss, well, a few kisses. He went to get his keys and stuff to leave, then stopped and went to show me how to turn off the ac when Im ready to go…then we hugged a second time…and more kisses. Its so hard to tell if there is any effect going on.

Actually, this is pretty much my general frustration/confusion with him. Hes incredibly sweet and very affectionate…non-sexual intimacy he is on top of it 100% and I really do love the closeness between us, but… Its not even that Im trying to get him into bed, I just want some sort of idea, spark, something that can take me out of this more than a friend, not a girlfriend limbo.

Like this morning, when he kissed me and said how much he loves me…I dont know how to take it..that he feels that way but not enough? That much? Im not sure…Ive stopped telling him I love him, cause I do, with every inch of me, not remotely as just a friend…not any less than when we were still a couple and planning to move in together. I just feel flat out vunerable and even rediculous that I still love him just as much, and want him just as much, but his love for me doesnt mean nearly what is used to like when he wanted a future with me.

Okay, I need to stop, Im blabbering and Im not sure if its the IO or if Im just being all emotional. Oakies..unless he comes back home at some point before I leave thats my test for today since the only other person Ill really come across is kiddo.

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Outre, I had read somewhere that if a person has a preexisting idea of you, it can take a while for your “new” (or highlighted, anyway) phero signature to register. Also keep in mind that you and he have a history. He’s your ex? He may just not want to “go there” again b/c of whatever happened last time. Give it time and see what happens.

From what I understand, mones don’t overrride free will at all. Keep working on other things – being there, being trustworthy, being a friend. Maybe even back off a little from the kissing; be a tad more distant that way. Let him come to you.

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Well, sounds cliche but he hit a mid-life crisis and decided to take a break from our relationship to sow his wild oats. Hes never married, no kids, child of a messy divorce and from everything I know of his dating history, terrified of commitment. Just when we broke up, we were looking at houses to move in together and he was talking marriage..yup he not I…so it was pretty devastating that one week we are about to sign a lease, and the next, he wants out.

Over these past 2 years, we’ve both been there for each other…the non-sexual intimacy, the friendship, the closeness, that all has not faded a bit. But yeah, its been 2 years now…Ive been patient, and distant, and giving him space etc for a long while…

I think in a way, hes grown accustomed to me being at this distance, and a “good friend” to spend time with but can curl up with sometimes too, like Im still the gf he loved, and he still says he loves me, but now without the actual relationship or the sex…thats why I want to step it up a bit with the physical attraction and feelings. I dont want to jump into bed with him until/unless there is a relationship but the hugs, kisses, sweet moments have been growing between us over the past couple weeks, and then hopefully getting that spark going again…

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hi girl, i can understand how n what you are feelin.

gone through almost similar situation myself.. believe me, it will take time, but it will happen again. i did taht for myself. i can help you in this, if you can just let me know what he liked most about you then, what possibly has put him off. some more details. pm me if you want.

One help you can do to me is do tell me how you changed the name of your journal. i am thinking same off late. but have no idea how to do it.

enjoy testing…

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Thanks so much! Ill send you a PM about the relationship :slight_smile: To change the title of your journal, go to edit your first post, then go to advanced…from there you the title of your thread can be editable :smiley:

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OMG…I read this “the title of your thread can be EDIBLE…” Shows you where my mind is at. :smiley:

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not happening. the thread title is still same. i have saved the changed title in some posts like the first & the last but its not happening…

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Awe!!! Im sorry its not working for you!! I dont know why! Most of these forums work the same way and I was able to change mine! I wonder if its locked for editing after a certain amount of posts to the thread? Edible..hehe!! Yes, I see where your mind is at. My brain translates things in wierd ways too…Ive had to read and re-read posts at times thinking…noooo they didnt just say that! And yeah, just my overactive imagination doing a lil play on words. :smiley:

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You know each other pretty well? Yes? Well that cuts both ways. He has his idea of ‘who you are’ and ‘he knows you’ so it’ll take time for his perceptions to change and acknowledge the different pheromone sig. Have you seen that in your reading on here? The mones take longer to work with those close to us because they know us. They approach us with their own biases and accepted views of us.

As to the other bolding I did - I would go to the mens section and ask them. Steve, Radman, Alpha, P51Mustang and mobocaster. Those guys are prolific and do genuinely help and explain this kind of stuff. Read some of their posts and see who you like or who you think is on the money. These guys are pretty awesome.

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Today was kind of a wild ride and I got super busy with work…but that turned into a good thing :slight_smile: Generally, I would have been gone before he got home from work, but today I ended up working super late. He texted to see if I was home yet and wanted to know if it was okay for him to drop by to give me a squeeze :slight_smile: I told him I was still at his place, but packing up to leave…so I waited for him to get there.

In the meantime, I hadnt sprayed anything on since morning so everything was pretty much long gone for sure. He said he would be home in 15m, so right at 15m I went for 3 sprays of IS/b, 2 on my neck, and one on my chest. He came in not more than 5m later… His hands were full of stuff, but I greeted him with a kiss and I sat on the couch and we talked while he was putting his stuff away. He came to join me on the couch and gave me this huge hug, and was like…wow you smell so amazing! and held onto me for awhile… We just sat there quietly…just holding each other, then he said he had to cook dinner, and I had to get myself home too…

I picked up my bags to leave, and he was like…let me help you! And he took like..everything, and said he would walk me out to my car. Usually, Id make the trek by myself so this was super new…and it is a trek, he lives in a condo, and the guest parking is 2 blocks away. He walked me the entire way to my car, the whole time he was telling me about his health issues, how hes been feeling better, and that cause of the problems and trying to solve them, hes been eating so much better and losing weight too…usually when he talks about his health, hes complaining, but this time, he was super positive and optimistic, and generally talking himself up like hes doing better than ever. It was awesome to see him talking and feeling that way…especially after a long day at work where he’d usually be very quiet and tired and just want to veg and have some peace and quiet.

When I got to my car and put my things in, he gave me this huge tight hug and told me he loved me…I told him thank you sigh and thanked him for walking me to my car. He told me his whole itinerary for the next few days, and asked me if I was coming back tomorrow (I cant) and then asked if I can come over on Fri (maybe). He gave me another hug and kiss..then when I was in my car, he was still standing there, I rolled down my window and he gave me yet another kiss… When I drove out of the lot I was waiting for traffic so that I could turn, and he was walking back…he walked up to me and gave me yet another kiss through my car window…I was again stopped at a light just before Id turn away from his building, and as he walked past me he smiled at me, and kept looking back at me. It was really quite something. I mean, if I didnt know any better, Id think he was smitten!!! I do think this qualifies as a total hit!

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Yes, we know each other very well…really of everyone Ive ever known, Ive opened up to him more than anyone else, and he has with me too. To be honest, I dont want him to change how he looks at me or how he knows me…just…heighten it. Know what I mean?

Ive tried asking guys I know but the ones Im close to all have the bright idea that I should just forget about him and take a closer look at them instead as a perspective lol! Not helpful!!! :stuck_out_tongue: Especially since my male friends know him very well, before I knew him even so they arent exactly impartial either. Ill take your advice and ask the guys here to see what their perception is!

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I, personally,think you need to distance yourself a whole lot more than a tad. Try a mile or ten. He doesn’t have to do anything; you come in and let him wake up like he’s in a relationship; he gets hugs and kisses without done anything to deserve them, except sleep in your presence; you haven’t let yourself have the chance to move on - I don’t think he’s gonna come back. Why not? all of the above.

Don’t be there every time - women behave how they want to be treated. Guys don’t process those actions that way. They’re thinking: life’s good, I’m king - therefore I deserve it. IT DOES NOT OCCUR TO THE AVERAGE GUY THAT HE’S SUPPOSED TO RETURN THE FAVOR. Not even to the above average guy - why do so many women wail about being taken for granted? Because this is how they don’t do it. He thinks it’s his right - not a very luscious favor from someone who loves him. You’re in the friend zone desperate to get out? DON’T BE A FRIEND TO HIM - the next thing you may hear is “I don’t think of you like that anymore - I love you, like a friend; but I’m not In love with you”.

I feel you’re just torturing yourself. Otherwise, why wouldn’t you have cleared the whole matter up by now? That you haven’t, tells me you think (subconsciously, probably) that if you ask and hear the thing you don’t want to, there’s no way to undo that. And you’re right.

So what’s the deal?