OutreDame's PheroJouney

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Women's Journals
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LoL! Yeah, my ex so does not need pheromones. I dont know if its just his effect on me or what, but I dont need that getting widespread or anything lmfao!

Maybe Im a glutton for punishment, but the more I hear about TUTH, the more I wanna just test it out and see for myself. Im of the “shes sooo nice and soooo sweet!” variety, that Im curious to see how differently men and women react to me with something like that on.

Im super interested in the experimental mixes for sure! But I keep hearing its not for newbs, and I do want to be able to get some testing down pat..even just being able to do the testing and the reporting, so yup…Ill take my baby steps, do the reporting with what I have and then play with the big girl stuff when I can really be able to tell my results and give good feedback on it too.

Something about trying a mix out, not knowing what it does or how people are going to react really is kind of exciting to me :smiley:

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Okay sooo…I went and did it. And I wont be doing that again… Got ready..wore a cute dress and heels, no makeup, hair done up nice… Dropped kiddo off at her friends house to hang out. We were our usual selves, joking around and being goofy. I wanted to try TUTH but not around her so after she got out the car, I did 2 sprays of TUTH on each side of my neck. This was right at 2p.

I went down to a local coffee shop and stood in line…it was really busy packed in there as usual, and it took about 5+m before I ordered up. Usually Ill end up in convo with someone somehow while Im there so I figured that would be a perfrct place to see how people interact with me. Hows this…no reaction, no interaction, no nothing. There were 2 guys in front on me, in convo…a lady came up, and asked them, not me if they were at the end of the line…one of the guys was really sweet towards her and about to let her go in front of him and then noticed me and said I was probably the end of the line. A few moments later, he turned towards me but literally it was like he looked right through me…to say something else to the lady behind me joking around. After that, the guys were back in convo, and the lady was just spaced out in thought. Im not ever at all that invisible.

Afterwards, I stopped at a convenience store, and as usual around this time of day there were a bunch of construction guys hanging around there. As soon as I got out of the car, one of them called out saying I looked great today…I was too far for the TUTH to be picked up, and to be honest, the guys always have something to say to me when they see me. Inside though, usually the guys are all trying to talk to me, small talk say something anything…but nothing. As I was standing there waiting to pay, total silence…the cashier was nice to me as usual, Im in there all the time and she knows me.

I then went to the drug store to pick up a couple of things…the whole time I was in there, I was standing in the aisled, mulling about, standing next to people as if in deep thought over whatever was on the shleves…nothing, no reaction, zip. I was going to head to the grocery store after this, but I just didnt feel like it.

And on the way home noticed my own mood was completely and totally different than usual. LIke, Im usually all bouncy happy even by myself in my car..especially when a song comes on Im seat dancing and singing along…but I was so serious. and so annoyed…not at or about anything in particular. Just…really serious. And I didnt feel like going to the grocery store because I was too annoyed to. Again, not for any reason, I just didnt feel like being around people anymore.

Decided to come home and shower off the TUTH and did 2 sprays of IS on each shoulder sweeping down my arm, cause I like it that way :slight_smile: That was about 15m ago, and Im still just feeling mellow and serious… I guess if I were in a situation where I would have to be serious then this would be a good thing, but Im rarely ever in a situation like that, and to be honest, I dont like it!!! I feel like I even have a kind of bitchy standoffish vibe, which is not me at all.

Okaaaay so you all were right. Not for me to wear at all. On a guy Im sure it would be different, maybe…like i do like serious strong type guys…it offsets and balances out my own bounce off the wall self. But I dont want to be that way. blech.

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What did you spray and how much and where? Tell us the important things.:frowning:

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Hehe! I wrote about my date from the night before that I was referencing, and all the details about what I sprayed and the effects a couple posts prior in Post #34 :smiley:

To recap what I used though:
2 Sprays of IO to my hair, 2 sprays of IS sweeping down each arm, 2 sprays IS/b to each side of my neck.

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Im sorry its just one big blob…I kept trying to edit in paragraphs and it keeps clumping everything together when I savew changes anyway!!! Last night was kind of an adventure. I nearly forgot about a dinner party that a friend was having, rushed to get ready and decided I was going to give IO a solid shot. I did end up pairing it up with IS also…good thing too. 3 sprays of IO on one side of my neck, down one arm and on my chest 3 sprays of IS on the other side of my neck, down the other arm, and also on my chest. Everything was good…got out and on my way…then on the freeway my car starts making a loud crazy* noise…when I slow down the noise gets softer, as I speed up its horrible! I was already less than 10m from the place, so I drove 40mph the rest of the way there :frowning: As for me…I was very calm, and really just like..awwwwe man! whats going on?! I have to admit, usually when Im in my car, I turn into a heinous beast, like Im mad about everything then when I get out my car Im back to sweet ol me LoL! I dont know what it is about being in my car that I get so mean. I can say, usually Id be in fits but I wasnt…just really sad and upset that something is wrong with my car. I get to the place, and everyone was very nice and pleasant, but they generally are. One lady kind of stuck to me like glue and I couldnt barely hear what she was saying, but the bits and pieces I was picking up, I dont think I was missing out on much… I was talking about my car troubles on my way up, and one of the husbands said hed come out and take a look at my car for me. I popped the hood, but dang my Koran suv, you cant see anything looking in there really…he was trying to see if it was a slipped belt or something but no such luck there. So we went for a quick ride, and he told me its definitely an alignment problem and I need new tires. That made me feel way better..I was scared it was engine problems or something really crappy, and my car was on its death bed or something. Its only 2 years old but still…I know nothing about cars, and any wierd noise makes me panic. The rest of the party, I was kind of sullen really…cause I know tires for my car are about $150 a piece, and I need to get two, plus alighnment and rotation, Im looking at about $400 that I dont have. So yeah…I was kind of a sourpuss the rest of the night…that didnt stop everyone from trying to get me to get up and dance and talking to me as if nothing at all was wrong…no one even asked me what was wrong, just sort of wrapped up inthe party scene which was actually a good thing. For sure though, Im betting the IS kept me from completely falling apart, both with worry over my car on my way up, and with worry about how Im going to pay for the expense. Wish I could have been more outgoing and without these troubles on my mind to really let the IO work for me though.

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Glad you coped so well. :smiley: But with the other, did he check how much tread was on your tires? You could simply need an alignment and rotation. Check that out first before you go spending money you don’t have. Wear some IS and IO when you go, smile a lot, and maybe you’ll get an honest answer and a discount. :stuck_out_tongue:

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You made me laugh out loud HARD with the first statement!!! :smiley: Thanx! And I agree totally with the second suggestion I bolded. These are a known (generally) quantity. As PJ says: when you know what the mones intended for women do for you, and so forth, then you’ll get a handle of what the others are doing. Remember too, that not everyone reacts the same. I have come across a hiccup with IS on me. I actually wear it for other people, rather than myself. To give those that come in contact with me a smile. :smiley:

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Awe! Yeah, I saw that…really do wish IS worked for you too, because it really is such a pleasure!! I dont wanna rub it in though lol! I know you read it so much already on here. Yeah, Ill work my way through the mones with baby steps. Im just way too eager still lol!

Yeah, my tires. Oh boy…times like this I wish I had a man around the house. Im so smart about other things, really…but cars..Im a total flake! But yes, my tire is literally down to the wire. As in…wires are coming out of the tire. I didnt even know there were wires in tires!!!

Luckily, a friend of mine told me where I can get a used tire for next to nothing, until I have the money to get a new one. That will be leaps over what I have now and bide me some time.

I totally plan on laying on the IO and IS..heck I might even go for some IS/b while Im at it, wear something cute, bat my lashes and pray for a discount from heaven, cause thats about what I need right now! lol Wish me luck, Im going in tomorrow morning!!!

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It does work - just not the way everyone expected. :smiley: And hey, no such thing as rubbing it in. The way IO works for me, doesn’t seem to be common and I’m so sorry no-one else seems to get the effects I do. I feel sorry for them! I got IO and I’m all good. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Hehehe!!! Actually youre right on both counts!!! You have me on this kick to solidly test IO out for myself even…one of these days, one of these fine days I will actually test these all out by themselves to get a true feel for how they affect me and others around me. But not tomorrow…Im using all Ive got cause I need cheap tires lmfao!

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I think 4 sprays would be quite a lot, especially if you’ve not done the sweet-spot testing. And from what I’ve read, women who wear “men’s” mones have to soften it with socials or IS/b.

As I understand it, soap and water are not sufficient to remove the mones. You need (from others’ posts) rubbing alcohol, or hydrogen peroxide to remove and/or denature the mones. I’m not sure about the alcohol being effective, as the mones are in a perfumer’s alcohol suspension (90±8% ethanol or SD40 (grain) alcohol, 10% distilled water). Rubbing alcohol is 70-99% ethanol or isopropyl alcohol and distilled water. Perhaps the isopropanol is a solvent, but if the ethanol were, this would destroy the mones before application. :frowning: Hydrogen peroxide (in aqueous solution as found in household supplies) reacts with catalase in blood, making it an effective cleaner of that organic (carbon-containing) molecule, but I’m not sure about other organic compounds. Something else that might help (in a pinch) is (olive or vegetable) oil. This often will aid in the removal of perfumes or colognes. I have no way of testing if mones remain, but you could try: alcohol and/or hydrogen peroxide, oil, then soap and water. (In this order, the oil will combat the drying of the alcohol and the soap will clean up the oil. If that doesn’t work, umm, a flamethrower? :stuck_out_tongue: )

Boo, and other chem-nerds, can you add to this?

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Some places you get free rotations and alignment checks for life – worth doing regularly to avoid the extra replacements. Alignments aren’t cheap, but they WILL save you from more expensive damage & replacements. Also, get someone who knows, who is NOT charging you for repairs, to point how HOW you can tell when you actually need an alignment (car usually pulls to one side while driving, or wobbles) and when you have uneven treadwear.

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Witch hazel is the other solvent I’ve heard proposed – it’s full of many natural organic compounds. “The main constituents of the extract include tannin, gallic acid, catechins, proanthocyanins, flavonoids (kaempferol, quercetin), essential oil (carvacrol, eugenol, hexenol), choline, and saponins. Distilled witch hazel sold in drug stores and pharmacies typically contains no tannin. Witch hazel hydrosol is used in skin care [and] for treating … poison ivy.” (Wikipedia).

If witch hazel can dilute or denature the toxins in poison ivy, I think it’s a good candidate for other organic compounds.

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Wow thats a lot of useful info ScienceStudent! I have hydrogen peroxide, makes sense that would have worked. Also have olive oil…no witch hazel, I used to use that all the time as a toner, hrmm..should have that on hand just because anyway. But yeah, Im sure the effect kept on going cause the mones weren’t washed away…

Part of me wants to test to see what lifts the mones and my mood…but a bigger part of me doesnt want to feel so low again! BTW! My mistake, I meant 2 sprays one on each side of my neck, so 2 total! Oh man, 4 sprays I probably still would be feeling now!

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I didnt get the chance to get tires yesterday or today..I really have to tomorrow though. Without fail!!! I did however end up going to a meeting yesterday and wore 2 sprays IS one on each side of my neck, and 2 sprays IO in my hair. I got to Starbucks before her, and I have to say…no one was ignoring me like the other day with TUTH at the other coffee shop!

As I was standing in line, the person in front of me kept turning to smile at me, but didnt say anything…and for the most part, people just kept smiling at me…not big ol heyna grins or anything, just watching me and smiling when I looked in their direction.

After I got my coffee, I set up with my laptop at a table and was waiting…2 guys were standing up at the couches right by me, saying their goodbyes…the one right next to me kept glancing at me, and then before he left, told me I was beautiful :slight_smile: Awe!

Today before meeting up with a guy for a date..I did 3 sprays of IO, two on my hair, one on my neck, and two sprays of IS, one sweeping down each arm. OMG I do not need to put IO on my neck anymore!!! I talked..and talked…and talked…and Im sitting there thinking, okay, I need to shut my trap…but could…not…stop!

He told me…I know youre in your 30’s…but if I didnt know that for sure, Id think you were 21 or something, cause its so rare to come across someone your age this bouncy and giggly. (and Im sure he was too polite to say…and so talkative!!!)

I think that doing 2 sprays to my hair is more than enough. AYE!

He did say he liked my energy though, and that he had a lot of fun with me…but still…I was way too much lol!

ETA: I almost forgot to mention!!! He kept saying I smell amaaaazing lol! The only scent I had on was from the IS and IO…it really seems neroli is really good for me on its own!

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  • Congrats! :smiley::stuck_out_tongue::cool:

:open_mouth:

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Awe thanks!!!

Its so amazing though, the coffee shop experiences…how completely and totally different they were…that with the TUTH, I felt like I literally did not exist, and here with IO and IS, eyes and smiles were on me… Without a doubt, this stuff seriously has an effect on people!!!

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Maybe the TUTH is strong enough that people shy away from it? Like it’s a threatening thing, or something? (My apologies if anyone else already brought this up – I only skimmed the thread…in a hurry this morning!!)

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Oh Im pretty sure I cant play with TUTH anymore because it makes me feel so blah and serious. Im not used to being serious at all! My life doesnt demand it at any time lol it defintiely cuts into my perky vibe…I have a friend I can give it to, Ill see him for luinch next week and tell him to report back if it works for him in some way..

Today, I went to get my tires, 2 sprays of IS down each arm and I was going to save the IS/b to spray on just before I got there… but stepped outside to torrential pouring rain!!! So grabbed my raincoat, went out there…skipped the IS/b.

Several people were around, and people were nice but not IS, IS/b nice…know what I mean?!! The mechanic barely looked at me really, all they do there is change tires, so literally I drove up and got out, he was like.. hey, as he went to see what my tire size was, told me he’d be right back and came back to say he had em. I barely said “ok great!” and he was already dashing to get the lifts to swap out my tires.

There were some people waiting as thier tires were being worked on, and all just standing there…nice but not blah blah blah smile at me nice. Omg am I becoming an attention whore?!! Im all expecting people to react to me now hahahaha! Ah well.

My tires were only $30/ea though..aint that lovely?!!! And no charge to put them on, so $60 total. Goodness! Not bad considering everywhere I was looking for tires for my SUV came to $160/ea, plus labor. I love Miami and buying tires in the hood. Yes I do. No shame in my game. None at all lol!

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Ive been bad…and havnt been reporting in :frowning: But everything is kind of a whirlwind for me at the moment.

I do have devastating news though…Im out of IS!!!

Last night I went to spray it on, and drops came out…drops!! Like half spray and lots of drops! And its so funny in a way…Just a couple weeks ago I didnt even really know about any of this. But last night I was going “no no no no no no!!!” while furiously trying to spray it. sigh

All was not lost. So…1 spray/drop/airfizz of IS on one side of my neck, ans 3 sprays of IS/b, one on each side of my neck and on my chest at about 11:50 before I walked out the door. Literal 5 min drive to my destination, and by midnight I was greeting my ex (dont kill me) and friends I havnt seen in awhile.

Hugs and kisses as usual…so a few gents were up and close to the IS/b for awhile. One of the guys was like…WoW!!! Youre looking great! Lost a lot of weight there!! Yeah, I have but jeeez…I was feeling kind of blah like…gawd, did I really look that huge before!!! I wanted to go back in time and hide under a rock.

A guy who I met at a festival a few months ago came up and said hi…then attached himself to me. Now…I do love dreads, lots of people in my family have it, Ive gone gaga over guys who have it…but this guy? He gives dreads a bad bad name, cause I can smell his hair from like…a hundred thousand feet away. And here he was latched onto me trying to flirt and be all close. I was dying.

So I went to the bar to get a drink, and struck up convo with a guy there. Flirted here and there, then he said hed like to get my number…but cant cause I have a bf. He was speaking of the ex…who was performing at this point and eyeballing us and c-blocking me from across the room.

I tell him hes my ex, we’re just friends, and joke that this relationship is never going to work if theres no trust. We kept talking and flirting…after my ex was done performing and he didnt rush over to talk to me..the guy figured I was being honest and asked me if he could save face by getting my number…

My ex then starts making his way over, and the guy is like…you do promise me ane mean it, thats your ex not your bf right? At this point hes next to me and I say…please tell him what our status is… To which my ex says…well you know, we’re kinda random…I think the look on my face kind of had him all over the place, cause he then said we’re just friends, not special friends or anything, just friends, yeah we’re cool. Its like, the more he talked, the more I wished hed shut up. Of all things…to say that we’re “random”?! that was odd on so many levels.

Anyway, I was ready to go, bid everyone goodbye, to which my ex loudly calls me by his pet name for me and says he will leave too and walk me to my car. On the way, he tells me I smell fantastic. He also invited me out for today (I was busy) and then today invited me out for lunch tomorrow. On another note..as soon as I got home, the guy I met at the bar texted..then called me. He also mentioned that I smelled fantastic. Same exact words. Pretty much everyone keeps telling me that when I wear IS/b actually.

Anyway, he kept going on about how beautiful I am, and how amazing I am, and how funny I am..and that he thinks theres a catch, too good to be true, theres no way Im single but hes going to believe me cause he wants to believe its true. Goes off on this whole thing over how I just seem out of his league and blah blah blaaaah.

He turned me off on so many levels during our convo, I cant even begin to count the ways. And that is my report for today lmfao!