Can Androtics Direct make and Oxytocin nasal spray? I’d buy it.
If you search around Steve did some tests on this. I remember him posting his results in the lounge.
However it would be illegal for Androtics to sell a nasal spray because this falls under the guidelines of the FDA as a Drug.
Unfortunately the only way it really works is sprayed directly into the nasal passage because its a heavy molecule with a short volatile life span.
Tisha
Then perhaps they could just make a spray (in a regular bottle), and people could spray it wherever they liked. 
Oxytocin needs to be refrigerated all the times. If its not in a controlled environment like suspended in a nasal spray or in the body it has a life of only 3 minutes. Its a heavy molecule that does not diffusive from the body well.
While it has definite possibilities it would be to volatile as a spray on pheromone.
Tisha
Interesting thread. This is something I’ve just started wondering - how / why are the active molecules in pheromones classified differently? Is it just the application (ie. these are worn and not a direct spray up the nose) that is the difference between legal and illegal or am I over simplifying it? Are the molecules “different” and based on some other “root” (e.g. fragrance) therefore classed as fragrances whereas oxytocin is “different” being pharmaceutical?
Loads of countries sell pheromones produced in those countries (obviously some pheromones aren’t as good as others!) and there seem to be no problems with international deliveries from AD to all over the world so I’m assuming there is some international concensus on pheromones that explains why they are legal.
Just curious!
That means “Liquid Trust” is BS?
That is for you to experience for yourself and determine. 
While I never used Liquid Trust I have worn OxyTocin at various levels diffused with Alcohol (from 5 mcg to 100 mcg) on my skin and I’ve never gotten any results from it that way. I never even got self results! While I have had very good reactions using it as a nasal inhalant. To the extent that I wish I had some more (went through two bottles).
I have used it and from my experience and what I know about Oxytocin yes its BS.
Tisha
Oxytocin and its’ close relative Vasopressin are both available… Oxytocin is now provided for specifically pro-erotic purposes in a 5 IU and 20 IU sublingual “troche” … that means you put it under your tongue and let it dissolve…
Oxytocin appear to be more specifically pro-erotic in women, and Vasopressin is more pro-erotic in men.
Warnings in order here, both can be powerfully vasoconstrictive in higher than needed doses, meaning they can cause a surge in blood pressure if abused. With other vasotensive substances such as cocaine or amphetamines this can be seriously dangerous. Second warning is that they can also be utero-spasmodic if overused (part of oxytocin’s natural function is to induce uterine contractions) so use during pregnancy or periods where cramping is an issue is absolutely contraindicated.
I have tested both across a span of ranges. Oxytocin in low doses has a blissful, post-orgasmic afterglow quality, in moderate doses a knee shaking post incredible orgasmic quality with some unpleasant jitters, in doses beyond that it is quite unpleasant.
Vasopressin in very low doses is unremarkable, other than it suppresses the need to urinate. In moderate, i.e. one and ONLY one light squirt from the pump, about half of a pump load actually, it would (and does currently) allow me to get into a very deep sex groove without a lot of the side effects of stimulants… overdoing it leads to head pounding high blood pressure and shortness of breath that takes about two-three hours to fully resolve.
Both are powerful medicines, both must used with caution and conscious attention to detail, and both can be obtained if you know where to look.
Very interesting. I’d be willing to test so I guess I’ll have to start looking
What would be the best way to obtain it from a doctor? I’m mainly looking at it for the enhanced recievement of emotions, and less for the bonding aspect(I’m slightly autistic). I can save myself pretty good in most situation, but it’ll give me that extra sense of emotional connection :-)!
How should I go about to my doctor?
First thing you need to do is change sexes and then become the first sex change recipient to become impregnated. Then when you are about to have the baby ask the doctor to use oxytocin to induce labor .
Of course if this didn’t work for you, you could always have yourself diagnosed with autism and get yourself involved in a research study…
There’s really not a lot of traditional uses to get a prescription from a doctor for it, unless you meet those two categories above. You might consider getting it from an online pharmacy which then you need to worry about what you are actually getting. Maybe consider finding a vet that will prescribe it for a horse.
I’m lucky, I have a very close friend who is a scientist at a research hospital for kids.
Hehe, well I guess I just need to put in a bit more practice then. I’m not planning to get pregnant yet 
LOL…
I’ve heard of users getting it from Vets for horses though. I don’t recommend doing anything illegal, but hey.
Tacitus had a few suggestions some posts back and after doing an online search I was able to procure some online sources for it very easily. I never attempted ordering it so I have no idea if they would even sell it. It is available though, if you look
The male-active analog to Oxytocin - Vasopressin - is used to prevent bed-wetting (or at least it was at some point in the past). You could always ask your doctor about it from that perspective.
Haha, so then I need to say I DO want to pee in my bed
Well… from the info I have a “normal” oxytocin is not used in phero products. Instead the so called “oxytocin analog” is used which has MUCH higher efficiency and is easily spread in the air.
The only info I have seen stating that is from Marketers blowing smoke to get you to buy there product.
Every legitimate study I have seen so far has only used analogs in a nasal spray or by injection to effect the user. It needs to be in the blood stream or administered directly into the brain.
It doesnt act pheromonally as in you spray it on yourself and it effects those around you.
If you have a legitimate study or abstract indicating otherwise I would love to read it, please share.
Tisha
My prev. post was just for information not to convince others that this works and I (and I guess everybody else) don’t know of a legit study that indicates these sprays work. In fact even the Oxytocin given intravenously does not enter the brain in significant quantities - it is excluded from the blood-brain barrier. And there’s no evidence for significant central nervous system entry of oxytocin by nasal sprays.
LOL I was not implying you were trying to convince anyone of anything. Sorry if it came across that way. I thought you came upon a study or something. New ones come out everyday and there is a long way to go in pheromone technology.
Your correct about the blood brain barrier though thats why I mentioned both injection and nasal spray. athough there are some promising studies in direct nasal applications in the user.
Tisha