P107, P80 - Taking a break and I need some advice...

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I got some kind of backlash from the P107 I tested on the 6th and 7th of December. I had sleeplessness from the P107, true, but that wasn’t the bad thing. The backlash was that for days after I was in the dumps, emotionally, depressed and negative. I haven’t had anything like this happen for many years. So, at this point I’m equating it with the P107 wearing off. It was bad enough that I suspended testing P107.

But there’s something else. For the week since suspending the P107 test I’ve had way less ability to feel any self effect of any pheromones. This has been consistent across the board for all of them.

I know that I could still be testing for responses from my mixes from my husband, but I really want both. So I’m going on a pheromone-free holiday for a week to see if I can reset.

Question: Have any of you had to do this? If so, what do you think the optimal time for being pheromone free is? I’ve tried two days, and so far that isn’t enough time.

Also, I wanted to give a note about P80, since I had been testing that as a new element in my sensuality mixes. What I have found is this… it is better layered than mixed in. I got spectacular results if I applied the rest of my mix, waited at least 20 minutes, and then sprayed on the P80 on top. If I used the P80 at the same time as the rest of the mix, I still got some nice physical effects from it. But with the waiting it was like fireworks going off, very pleasurable.

I was hoping to continue testing to see if this would remain the case over time, but I’ll have to put that on hold for a bit.

My best combinations so far for pleasurable and intense sexual encounters with my husband contain:

Beta Androstenol - enough to add a mystical quality
Cops - this makes a big difference with my husband’s response
Est - adds olfatory zest and intense bonding
Meo-Est - slow and sensual, physical
TAF - intensifies everything
TAC - adds sexual muscle tension
P80 - body rushes, intensifies pleasure, adds a bit of aggressiveness
P102 - small amount - intensifies sensuality and body pleasure
P103 - small amount - relaxing and intensifies sensuality and body pleasure

Diane

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diane
back in the day i used to post about finding the smallest fuctioning doses and the 'mones you can still find useful at rediculously high levels and found that occasional depression occured due to neurotransmitter depletion, and then posted about repletion.

i think i remember the post saying bananas and walnuts helped the replenishing,

but i went 2 weeks without pheromones in order to reset.

2 days wasnt enough for me personally.

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Ahh I am sorry Diane, Yes most hard core testers have had to take a break at some point. To much signaling can boggle the mind cause fatigue and a general blah feeling.

I am consistant with my 2 days breaks. I take them every week which is why it probably works for me. I think a week or two will work for you and then when your back on track take a one or two day break every week to not head back into that funk.

Looks like your making great progress to on your sexuality mix.

Another option to consider is Nootropics. Jasmin is really into this and has alot of knowledge in it. I am just starting out with the basics. I dont know if you have ever spoken with Jasmin on the phone but the girl is a powerhouse of mental and physical energy. You can feel it right on the phone. Now as you can imagine when she is not on the road she is exposed to alot of mones. I know she uses nootropics to keep her energy and health levels up as well as her mental state. I have read they can clear the neurotransmitters in a way. She would know more but here is a few posts to help get a feel for what it is in case you have a interest. It can keep you busy on your pherobreak to LOL

I know you use alot of TAF and this could be part of the problem. I will let Jasmin explain as she is more clear on it

Tisha

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Thanks, Tish. I’ll look into that.

The backlash only lasted a few days. I think me and P107 are a hard-core no-no. I know that it kept me up for 24 hours both times I tried it and that had to have depleted my nor-epinephrine and epinephrine and probably others. I only used 10.0 mcg both days, but that was too much evidently.

What did you think about the difference in effects with layering P80 as opposed to mixing it in a mix?

Diane

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Well for me P80 on its own felt very masculine. I was pushy bossy but not in a mean way. I want things done my way, in my time frame with it. I love your sparta analogy. I didn’t like the reactions I got with it on its own in testing. My husband and my best friend (who is male) were both suspicious of me almost like they smelled threating male on me. My husband also assumed I was PMSing cause he said I was acting like a naggy bitch. LOL :o

When I mix with it I use it in work or alpha mixes. It give the mix some drive and impermeability without going over the top. In my alpha mixes I use only 20 to 30mcg total in the 30ML mix solution so I am using very little per spray. Course I have other mones in there as well so I am just using P80 to steer those. I have never used it in a sexual mix

Tisha

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Yes, P80 alone or with TAF is extremely masculine. I haven’t tested it enough alone to see what other people would act like around it or with me wearing it.

In my mixes it seems to get buried a bit.

What I found was that layering on top after priming(?) with the other pheromones, which were mostly feminine or relaxing, it lost most of its maleness(?) except for a bit more aggressiveness, and unleashed a ton of body rushes with and without physical stimulation.

I didn’t find this when mixing it in with the other pheromones.

Diane

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On a man P80 is fabulous if your into solid dominant alpha males like… well like the Spartans LOL

On a man it sort of roars but not in a mean way just a yummy Me Tarzan you Jane sort of way. Defiantly sensual and defiantly sure to send tingles though a girls body. If thats the kind of guy that interests you of course.

Tisha

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I’m going to have to look into Nootropics. I’ve picked up a few books of Amazon that I’ve seen recommended by Jasmin in various threads and they’ve always been good. Her advice is always golden. If she told me to walk aof a cliff I probably would.

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I have some things… just took 2000 mcg Vit.C and that should help along with my regular multivitamin. I’m finding some facinating stuff, not really related to nootropics, as I’m searching… Like this little gem:

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Anyone ever heard of this product or tried it?

Diane

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Oh and about p107 I haven’t noticed any emotional affects like that. I do notice that it seems to induce reactions way, way after the molecule should have stopped working. Like me having vivid dreams at night every time after I’ve been wearing p107 during the day (I never get them when I don’t wear p107). So p107 could make me a little bit more emotional like that but I may not notice because it may occur hours and hours after I apply the molecule. I’ll keep an eye out next time, although I’m getting to the end of my bottle now.

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What were your dreams about with P107 - can you describe them in detail please? There is a theory that that the way a mone steers your dreams shows the true ‘essence’ of the molecule…

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Wow really, I will have to try that with my testing for now on. Well I guess that dosnt say good things about Meo Est though since it gave me horrible dreams

Tisha