P80 + P97 + high none - what at surprise!

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It took me a long time to decide to post my findings with and about P80 !

first take a look what others found out …

That´s what i found to describe the effects i had the best … all this posts i found reading after the first night out with P80 with amazing effects and wondering what the hell happened

Really i hesitated to post what i found out and what others maybe have overseen !
We´ve had too many hypes about some certain molecules !
A few ones have discovered what it´s good for too but let´s take a look what happened …

Well .. we all know that P80 is known as the “Military Pheromone” or “Spartan Like” .
It´s true but only when paired with the right molecules - Rone, P102, P75, None, Anone,
Especially with Rone you´re perceived as really pushy and bossy and not in a charming way - you´re not making friends using this combo !

Let´s continue …

I´ve been ordering P80 because i expected it to be a really dominant molecule and i´ve been surprised !

I tryed it out at the afternoon and found it to be really motivating and it made me agressive like hell the first time i applied it …
The motivational effects are still present but the agressiveness has shifted into a let´s do it know … i´m a man on a mission and nothing can stop me .. hunter feeling …

THE FIRST NIGHT

Put 2ml of the 30ml - 20mcg P80 in Grape ( smells great in Grape ) into an small glass atomizer and took it with me into a club - which is usually overcrowded and a perfect tesing ground for mones !
Can´t say exactly what i had applied but like usually it was a none heavy mix .. and i had the bottle of P80 in my pocket …
At the same time i was playing around with P97 and i found it out to be a nice social modifier and an excellent none buffer ..
– since this time i always carry a togo of P97 with me …
at one point at the evening i felt the urge to try out some P97 to modify my mix and applied 25mcg on my neck over the high none mix ( i think it was TheEdge + P83 + P86 + MeoEst + P79 + TAC )
will go into details and ratios later ..

I noticed people more chatty and the none overdose had diminished ..
— little later i decided to put on some P80 and see what it does at the club …
put on 2 sprays onto my forearms ( 40mcg ) at the restroom and went back to the crowd …

So i expected to be treated like with a heavy dose of A314 or like with and overdose None .. everything really commanding or dominant ..
BUT .. i was really surprised .. girls became flirtatious like hell … really animated around me … started to dance … hits after hits … women staring at me from 5m over … the waitress touching me and grabbing my arm … all hits you can imagine … A WONDER HAPPENED !
---- i felt like i parted the Red Sea —
and this is a very energizing combo .. a PUA´s dream ..

but … somewhat 30 min later i felt that the effects diminised ..
went back to the restroom and applied another 60mcg … it was late and i wanted to see what i´d get out the mix …
the effects were back and they were as good as before …

After that night .. you can imagine i played around a lot with this combo / mix to figure out what made the effects ..
first i thought it was only the P80 what drove the girls crazy / never had issues with any single guy wearing the mix ..

I added this and that and found out that Rone kills the mix … !
In fact it´s Rone in combination with P80 that makes it the military mone …
stay away from this combo !

I won´t tell you all the success stories but this mix hits hard .. fast … every time … creates really visible IOI´s pushes you forward to act … CRAZY

— P80 seems to intensify emotions like P79
— P97 is some kind of catalyst and very close related to P96
— P96 can be used instead of P97 but the effects will become less visible
— P83 and P86 are in the baseline of nearly every mix i use … a part of the P80 mix
— MeoEst works like MSG and adds some oommmppp to the mix
— TAA works good in the mix and makes a nice youthful vibe …
— IS kills the mix
— MX297 and MX390 combines great with the mix
— can´t say yet what P93 does but i seems to work at low doses in the mix
— TAL wrecks the mix
— too many nols will be contraproductive … P97 plays the roll of the nols
— TAF does not work in this combo … disturbes the effects
— A1 does not do that much .. calming for women and pulls into a diff direction

HOW TO MAKE IT WORKING

Usually i start to a club - bar - night applying the mones in my car ..

  • 20mcg P83
  • 60mcg P86
  • 10mcg P79
  • 100mcg MeoEst
  • 2 Sprays Impi or TheEdge ( as a none base ) TUTH and IJ not yet tested
  • 50mcg P97 or 40mcg P96

i enter a bar or club and search for a nice place close to some hotties and my wing takes care of our place/drinks and i go to the restroom …
put on 40mcg P80 and go back to my wing …

the girls close to us turn their heads .. girls standing close start to dance and to adjust their clothes … girls bump into me .. girls are waiting to be opened …
BUT … you need to have really good game and be congruent with this mix !

Like i told you already the effects will diminish and after 1 hour … reapplication of P80 — 2 sprays where was none application …
next round :wink:
P80 seems to buffer none as well and it seems to make other mones diffuse faster …
later you need to reapplicate none and P97 …
i always take a gel pack Edge with me and a togo P97 and a togo P80

after several applications you will have an nice amount of mones on you and usually need 7 sprays P80 an evening
1 gel Pack TheEdge
4 to 5 sprays P97

High doses of P80 will pull in more dark skinned girls
Lower doses of P80 work better on blonde ones

P80 together with P97/P96 enhances you ability to scent everything and you will smell a fart from across the room !

It´s better not to move around in the room and stay at your place so that the mix can do it´s magic …
if you move around the club you won´t benefit too much from the combo …
strange but this effect is very pronounced …
search your place at the bar and flirt with the girls … and action !
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this combo seems to intensifiy the effects of alcohol as well … :smiley:

P.S ..
dont shower me with Pm´s if you don´t have P80/P97/P96/P86
you need them to make the mix working !
And yes you need such high doses of P80 !
And no it won´t last longer than 60 min !

Pago

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I wonder if you could get a longer life out of your P80 by dissolving some monolaurin in it and bumping up the dose a little.

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I tryed it out to enlengthen the life of P80 ( the high attraction effect lasts for somewhat an hour but there´s an afterglow as well but only with really high doses ) with DPG and was not happy with the effects because it lost a lot of the dynamic !

Pago

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Awesome report! I got mine at 2.5mcgs unfortunately, though I do find good results in the 10 mcg range.

You’ve inspired me to try your mix, switching out P97 for P91 (do not have P97 =/)

Once again, awesome report!

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How turned things out Maiden ?

Pago

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pago i whant to try out your mix can you tell me your application points

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Alright … Hillcat

P79 and P86 and P83 to the neck … nicely layered

( you could spray P86 over your cloth or into your hair .. but you´d have to up the dose 20% )

Meo - Est if you have some … behind your ears

the none … whatever you have … on the neck … over the other molecules

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in the club …

you can spray the P80 onto your forearms .. or where the foream bends …

and you should spray a bit over the other molecule on your neck

reapp the none and the P97 on your neck …

this mix takes a lot of playing around with it ..

i will look if i can tweak it into a spray version the next weeks ..

did not use the killer combo a lot the last months .. i was too busy with other stuff ..

and i have another deadly killer mix in the pipeline ..

Pago

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and one last question do you prefer IMPI red dot with this mix or NPA i have both

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Impi … NPA is way too edgy …

had hard failures with NPA … do not use it in this mix ..o.k. if you can avoid it

Pago

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ok so should you use IMPI then or TUTH

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it´s on you to compare …

start with the Impi ..

Pago

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I have TE wipes how many would u use with this combo

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TE wipes are tricky to handle ..

put on a bit .. don´t unfold the wipe …

add more .. and more.. like i do with the Edge gel packs ..

there´s no spray on .. and get it going ..

you have to get a feel for the mix

hope this helps

Pago

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Can i substitute Meo-est for ESt would it be the same you think

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I would say no, because MEO is more exciting and a enhancer. EST is more bonding and connection.

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Pago do you think this mix would hit harder than say my favorite mix

A314 5 drops
+tuth x2
+P83 (50mcg)

For pickup

and do you have something that hits harder than this P80 mix :slight_smile:

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I´ve seen nothing … NOTHING that beats that mix when you get it working …

it´s constant … you get very visible Hits with it … and it has crazy self effects

you don´t necessarily need Meo - Est …

if you have P79 it will do the trick ..

Pago

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Thanks for the reply Pago.

I have P80 (20mcg), Impi Red dot, P79(10mcg), P96 (20mcg), P86(20mcg), P83(20mcg)

Can i get it working with these and since i dont have MEO do i have to up the dose of P79 form 10mcg to higher dose

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that´s all great ..

first start with 2 xprays Impi

and with 10mcg P79 and 20mcg P83 ( the P86 is optional ) and 40mcg P86

that´s the base … add 20mcg P96 .. or P97

go to the bar … and wait a bit first

then go to the restroom … and add some P80 … two sprays a 20 mcg ..one on the left and one on the right

and when you come back the hit´s will come in rollin …

Pago

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In your other post you mention 40mcg of P96/97 and 60mcg of P86 ? will this make a difference