P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy

[Socrates]

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

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Originally Posted by Socrates

Just a hunch here based on my own experiences, but you may find that P74 works more consistently when it is combined with other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’ as opposed to it being used alone. My experience has been that without these other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’, the effects of P74 can be a little inconsistent - sometimes it really hits but often it doesn’t. At times, I may find myself not so social while others may be buzzing away (not necessarily to me but to each other). On the other hand when it is combined with other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’, it hits pretty much every time, for both me and for others around me.

Below are the positive experiences of some guys who combined P74 with various ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’ - nbully combined it with TAL for good effect, examine combined it with P79 and P90, and UltraGame combined it with CTTM-Mix 2 (which contains Alpha and Beta Androstenol of course).

TAL and P74 over an A314 base: more social than the -nols
nbully79 (April 24, 2007):
"TAL and P74 - More social than the -nols
I am shocked at how much better these make me feel compared to Alpha Androstenol or beta- Androstenol …never a dull moment with these! 1 spray of TAL (5 mcg) and 2-3 sprays of P74 (25-30 mcg) over A314 + The Edge + PF base…can’t keep my wisecracking mouth shut! Added Instant Openness 2X around 3 sprays to it (around 50 mcg) and it was seriously over-the-top . People all around me were ribbing at each other, pulling each others legs and looking in my direction to see if I laughed or not (that A314!) and nobody took it the wrong way. I was the CENTER of attention.

I got a great response from a friend with whom there were some issues in the past. I had been trying Instant Female Magic and other -nols and avoiding -none to calm her down for about a month or two with no avail.
But the first time I used TAL and P74 together she became very friendly-flirty from being stand-offish in the most amazing turn-around I have witnessed!

Now I find it very hard to drop these from any mixes. The impact of these two together is only rivalled by when I first used Instant Shine. It’s really awesome. Something has to be said about female pheros. I am very interested to try TAH next."

TAL and P74 over an A314 base: more social than the -nols
nbully79 (April 25, 2007):
"The response from friend who showed a big turnaround was only with TAL and P74. The presence of these two is still felt even in my heavy duty phero mix, A314 is -Androsterone dominant, The Edge is -none dominant, PF is - Androstenol dominant. I have very good idea how this mix behaves so adding anything on top, if it has a different reaction, is easy to figure out. These two hardly lay in the background.

Infact yesterday one girl got a proxy hit from my application (presumably TAL at only 5 mcg). She was sitting about a meter away from me and was getting lots of attention from all other guys in group even though she wasn’t reciprocating to anyone except me. It was definitely not normal for her.

P74 by itself seems like an ideal mix of Alpha Androstenol + beta- Androstenol to me. Chattiness + connection."

P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm!
examine (March 26, 2007):
"P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm!
so i put about 1/3 of each (10mgs) into a TO GO bottle.

this is what you call ULTRA CHARM. damn."

P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm! - #7 by examine
examine (March 26, 2007):
"sorry for the ultra summary i had someone at my house.

ok. so i went to a club friday, and created this bottle. 6 sprays to the neck right after i parked…met up with some friends. this mix is likemx105 with spaceland. hard to explain. it was subtle at first, but then it all started coming out. women were smiling like this , i danced with another girl that said i was romantic (not sure how), another one of my friends gave me a hug and gave me a kiss on the neck. every time i would dance with someone, it was like they had tabs on me…things started getting a little aggressive. one of my girl friends wanted to buy me a drink, so we left the dance floor and went to the bar, next thing i know one of the girls i danced with earlier came up, said “i was looking for you on the floor, why arent you dancing” then grabbed my hand and we were back on the floor. (my friend called the next day to vent how disrespectful she was)

another one of my friends, that i messed with a long time ago, text me some real deal xxx biz on my phone. i look up and shes at the bar looking in on the dance floor. LOL.

just too much went on, i could go on and on. but it was a successful night , the girl i met and i went on a date sunday afternoon. then this morning i got a text from another girl (which i was too drunk to remember i gave her my number or how she looked) she sent over a pic on my celly..i remember her, she was hot, but looked pretty easy, the fellas picked up on her (yea she was dressed like whoa), and she got lost in the crowd. not sure when my number was givin. i do remember her talking to a friend of mine.

like i said, the IOIs were as uplifting, bright, obvious as Spaceland, but P79 grabs that energy and turns it into sexuality.

btw the range at this club was 23-33."

P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm! - #8 by examine
examine (March 26, 2007):
"as for my attitude, i noticed i was all over the place. i broke out of my shell before the first shot. it was like i was in cancun or rosarito, and i was there to PAAAARTYAAA. notice, you go to a club to party, but when you are on vacation, its much much different wink

i didnt have to spit much game, like talk a good one to dance or any other ‘stuff’ it all just flowed, and was quite easy because of suchIOIs. I just played off them.

but thats a rule of mine anyways, you see an IOI you pounce on that sh*t like an owl on a jackrabbit.

this was my favorite type of IOI the whole evening. seeing people do this ( )

i like when people do that. it makes me do it. LOL"

Only P74 and P79 upgraded from putative to pheromone: do they really work? - #8 by examine
examine (May 3, 2007):
"P79 + P74 + P90 is what ive been using for the past couple of months.

such a great every day mix."

P90 barely registers even at 250 mu: subtle, a touch social dominant? - #6 by PheroQuirk m
examine (May 18, 2007):
"If P74 were Instant Openness
P90 would be Instant Honesty

its social, but a little more serious, not as much as Instant Honesty, but for some reason, there is a sense of comfortable social understanding communication. It’s not wacky, but its as if you and a buddy are sitting down talking politics freely, non chalant over a glass of whiskey."

EXPERIMENTAL AGENT DOCUMENTS Vol. 1 - UltraGame shares his extensive phero experience
UltraGame (June 19, 2007):
“Come Talk To Me (Mix 2) PRE-RELEASE: Should possibly be renamed to CHATTER! Excellent to mix with P74, this will create a super social mix and believe me… you will be talked to. The more you use the greater effects you notice, but I have realized it is a quite different feeling to Instant Honesty. It encourages BS talk!..”

P74 Stand alone - #12 by bubblebob
bubblebob (July 7, 2008):
"Well, the original italian pizza had no cheese and no pizza sauce…

I agree with you that P74 works best when combined with other molecules - or as Jas put it makes the effects more obvious for the beholder. For me it always works great when combined with Alpha Androstenol. I haven’t tried it with TAL - maybe that’s worth a try…"

P74 Stand alone - #11 by tmoz
tmoz (July 7, 2008):
"It’s all in my journal. But I do agree that there’s some changes manifested (only subconsciously though) in the people around you when using P74 by itself.

Initially it really was harder to gauge what exactly P74 was doing, but I came to the conclusion that it was mere subtle subconscious attachment other men feel around you, but bonding doesn’t happen unless it’s an addition of 'nols, or even TAL(unisex social attachment but not as amplified as nols for male bonding).

A pizza isn’t a pizza unless it’s got cheese and pizza sauce. Social bonding isn’t social bonding unless it’s got a conscious and subconscious molecular framework behind it."

In addition to my explanation in the quote above, idle provides us with an alternative explanation as to why some people (mainly men) haven’t seen too much when wearing only moderate doses of P74 (‘moderate’ as in well under 100 mcg ) standalone. Interestingly, Jasmin makes the point that she’s “observed men getting pretty good results using P74 alone, but maybe it’s not the type of results the male eye can easily see.”

Note except for Jasmin’s point all the posts below mentioning not seeing much from P74 standalone are from guys except for Petunia2323’s experience in the gym. P74 may work better on females at moderate dosages but should work well on guys as well at these dosages when combined with other communication enhancing pheromones (like Alpha-Androstenol)…

One word PUTATIVES Review(TAC,P74,TAF,TAA) - #8 by idle idle (August 2008):
“Yes.. P74 works at smaller mcg but not on males.
females seems to react even at 40 mcg.”?

P74 effect...help?

Petunia2323 (March 22, 2007):
"P74 effect…help?
So I just received my Instant Sexiness, Instant Shine, and putative P74!! I was totally excited to try them ALL out, but I kept my cool and decided to try them one at a time like peeps have suggested here.

I decided to try out the P74 first since it’s still not clear the effects of the pheromones and went to the gym. Here’s my dosage:

1 spray split between wrists
1 on neck
1 on chest
1 on sweatshirt.

I’ve read on other threads, mostly in the Men’s section, that the P74 is supposed to make other people chatty. However, when I went to the gym, I didn’t experience anything different. Even when I met up with my friends there, they didn’t seem too overly chatty or anything.

So I’m pretty confused right now. Did I not use enough? I got it in the TOGO bottle, which is so small that I feel like 2 sprays would use it up completely. I feel like 4 sprays should be enough to be effective. Does anyone else have stories about P74 on women?

Also, tomorrow I’m planning to use Instant Sexiness and Instant Shine to attract my target. Any good dosage amts that’d be effective?"

First P79 bottle smells like tequila: what dose do P74 and P79 need? - #2 by DrSmellThis

DrSmellThis (August 3, 2007):
“It’s weird, but I haven’t noticed much of anything with P74, except I felt more sociable when wearing 20mcg.”

First P79 bottle smells like tequila: what dose do P74 and P79 need? - #4 by nbully79

nbully79 (August 4, 2007):
“Same here! Not much with P74, P79 on the other hand shows itself very consistently.”

New Phero Guesses - #51 by Smudge

Smudge (December 7, 2007):
“Not sure about P74; it hasn’t don’t much for me”

New Phero Guesses - #60 by Smudge

Smudge (December 9, 2007):
“Have tried P74 on its own as well as with other social and sexual pheromones seperately and together. But nada, I got nothing out of it.”

2 Reports: P74 & Androstenone w/ Instant Shine & Realm Men

Godhand (March 27, 2008):
"Field Report #1:

I went to work with 4 sprays of P74 and Angel Men as a cover scent…and almost nothing at all happened. Maybe it was a fluke, but most of my other mixes have noticable effects when I wear them to work. What are some of y’alls results using P74 on its own? Do you get anything wearing it in a work environment?.."

2 Reports: P74 & Androstenone w/ Instant Shine & Realm Men - #3 by Godhand

Godhand (March 27, 2008):
“Thats exactly what I experienced. Everybody else was chatting away, but not with me. It almost felt like it made me want to get away from them. Weird…”

P74 standalone - report

This morning my GF & me went to enjoy a spa session. We had to take a train to reach the place. Before we left, I sprayed 3 times P74 on my neck. During the trip there was a very hot girl in her early 20’s sitting near us reading a book. She stared at me three times in a 20 minute time lapse! I find it quite unusual, because I could be 10-15 years older than she was, and I was talking with my GF. She looked at me in the eye for some good 6-8 seconds and I hold her look back. That hap…

tmoz (July 7, 2008):
"Didn’t have too much initial success with P74 either. It’s not a good stand-alone product (for me anyways).

It’s one of my favorite putatives though, but it’s also a product that for some reason tends to only work when used in compliment with certain others."

P74 standalone - report

This morning my GF & me went to enjoy a spa session. We had to take a train to reach the place. Before we left, I sprayed 3 times P74 on my neck. During the trip there was a very hot girl in her early 20’s sitting near us reading a book. She stared at me three times in a 20 minute time lapse! I find it quite unusual, because I could be 10-15 years older than she was, and I was talking with my GF. She looked at me in the eye for some good 6-8 seconds and I hold her look back. That hap…

Jasmin (July 7, 2008):
"I’ve observed men getting pretty good results using P74 alone, but maybe it’s not the type of results the male eye can easily see.That’s always an interesting issue.

What do you like complimenting it with? Maybe you have some other posts that talk about that?"