P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy

I just got the 10 mcg per spray this morning. I sprayed 3 sprays with no other pheros and no cologne and went to school. I was having a huge headache for about an hour. I didn’t notice any effects except that. It got to the point where I felt like hitting myself in the head with something. I had that at first with Instant Shine too, but it wasn’t this bad. I don’t normally have headaches, I don’t have any allergies that I know of, so I just assumed that it was the P74, I’ll try it again tomorrow and see how I do.

Hiya

It’s very strange seeing your stuff being quoted back. But I noticed that someone said that perhaps the effects I get from P74 in a professional setting might be linked to my area of work.

I’m going to try to keep this as non-identifying as possible - for no other reason than safety on the internet we never know who is reading this and there are a few mighty strange folk out there.

I specialise in Geopolitics. In particular current Western Geopolitical views and systems. It can be a bit cut-throat and doesn’t generally pull its punches. It’s also less dull than it sounds. :slight_smile:

Looks-wise. I’m average, middle-aged and slim-build. Nothing to write home about :slight_smile:

I do however, have a blood group that is fairly rare in the West. I’m B+. It’s much more common in Asia and Russia but only about 8 per cent (ish) in the West. There is some Asian or Russian blood in my background, but it’s more than five generations ago and we haven’t been able to trace it yet.

May

I am fairly sensitive to the effects of various pheromones on my self in a very pronounced manner at times.
Say i have not been using A314 for a few weeks then if i decide to apply about 3 drops with one of these being on my neck front then i usually get a really bad case of Fatigue several hours later.
But find no problem once i start using it on a regular basis.
But i had no trouble with the 25 mcg P74 i was wearing on my chin yesterday for the first time.
RE P74 it could in my opinion also be described as pheroproof ( in name only ) as its effects so far have stood out like dogs balls.
I thought Androstenone and A314 was a smooth popularising mix for me as a favourite.
But the P74 really seems to produce friendly sexy smiles from the Asian girls when used with my usual Androstenone 1 drop + classic fragrance at 6 drops.
But i bid not mix the P74 into the mix of None and fragrance, as i added a spray to the back of my hand on the first trial, where i was discreetly fanning it across the table with a paper napkin in the direction of my China girl guest.
And the next morning with my Asian interveiw i used it on my chin alone. and just sprayed the Anone + classic cologne on my biceps.
By the way i am also trying to find out how Raw Power stacks up against some of the other big boys in terms of reliable quality and purity, if anyone has opinion would sppreciate.:slight_smile:

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

Some more support for this ‘lets all get along effect’ that P74 seems to push in its own empathetic, highly social kind of way…

Mature Mix
NancysBoy (October 2007):
“…P74 - magnetism conversation initiator reduces competitiveness…”

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

Tater also doesn’t like the smell of P74…

The "MAD TATER" Journal - #446 by MadisonTate
MadisonTate (January 2008):
"Deep Thought #941. Tater has noticed several posts about the scent of Instant Female Magic, A314 and others. You guys need to composite. About the only phero that doesnt smell completely nasty is EST. The androstenols are somewhat bearable, but otherwise you’re just asking for it.

Tater admits to being more fragrance-sensitive than most, but it all REEKS. As for copulins (Dirty), I wouldve sliced my own hand off to get rid of that stuff, but androstenone, androstadienone, even androsterone are overwhelmingly funky. P74 seems worst of all. And now that its been mentioned a few times by others, yes i do pick up the scent of sour milk with A314. I never could place what the odor was, but thats pretty close…the smell of cold, bad milk.

Which leads me to the next deep thought…"

further mx103 testing, confusing results...

MadisonTate (January 2008):
“And MX102 doesnt smell GREAT either. Its like Mr. T’s jock strap. And P74 would be like Mr. T’s thong underwear…”

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

I agree with SteveO’s post and particularly Journey’s post below about P74 - the effects do remain for me even after more than 4 hours, even though I can become more adjusted to them so don’t always notice…

SteveO (November 18, 2007):
“…Effects last about 4-5 hours for me with a massive come down at the end. My brain was tired…”

Journey (January 2008):
"12.5 mcg’s

I also forgot to add how long the self effects last. On me, they last about 3 hours with the “intense” feeling, and about an additional hour or a little over an hour without the “intense” (perhaps “really noticeable” is a better phrase) feeling. Like, the effects really “smooth out” before they leave, and I’m not really sure if they left, or perhaps I become adjusted to them ,and the effects really are over after 3 hours and I just continue them. Don’t know yet.

Thanks Shap!

~Journey"

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

Support from Rattlesnake on some of the earlier themes from people’s experiences with P74: increased magnetism towards to the wearer, can end up using up large lengths of time/energy due to the socialising (can be distracting at work), detailed ‘fun’ conversations, very friendly and chatty vibe, etc…

I know I said I wasnt going to but I did it anyway!

Rattlesnake (January 2008):
"Hi folks, hope the new year is going well for all.

In one of my previous posts I had said that I would be leaving off the experimental stuff for a while, at least until I’d figured out the mainline products. I guess temptation got the better of me. Also, one of the reasons I was wanting to stop was because my last couple of mixes didnt seem to be working out at all and I was beginning to get fustrated.

Anyhoo, I tested out P74 on its own.

10 mcg strength bottle, one direct blast to the chest

Went in to work as usual, now one of my colleagues whose the grumpy sort lightened up. This guy is usually very serious, you’d have a hard time making him laugh, seems to live life like its one long funeral or something. Well, I guess you imagine my suprise when he actually lightened up a fair bit. Not saying he was swinging naked from the light fittings or anything but he was quite relaxed chilled out and fun to talk to. He laughed a lot more that was usual (usual being nothing). He also made far more excuses to come see me, since I’ve been using A314 he’s upped the frequency of visits but these seem far more prolonged. At home time, he kept making excuse after excuse to stick around (beginning to annoy the hell outta me cos I wanted to finish off some stuff I was doing). He literally went to leave 4 times but then decided to stay.

Not sure how to analyse this but perhaps this phero makes you feel like your having fun and I guess we were up to a point when he started to distract me. I guess he attached that feeling of fun to me and kept coming back for more.

Also, there was far more attention given to me, the man in question fancies himself as the alpha male of the group and tries to dominate conversations but now he kinda hung on every word.

Definately a social phero, my previous mixes confirm this. Unfortunately, I havent had the chance to test on any females and I’m cautious about trying this stuff at work since I wont be doing any bloody work!

I definately think this stuff needs to be added to Come Talk To Me Mix 2, in my opinion it would definately help it stay true to its name.

Anyway thats my 2 cents on P74

Rattle"

Thank you very much for all this valuable work, Vis :wink:

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

According to the posts by SteveO and TRDE59 pasted in below, P74 seems to have a strong confidence aspect to it related to the feeling of ‘natural charisma’ it brings along with it. For me its almost like an ‘Instant Social Magic’-type effect where the pheromone does much of the work for you in social situations. This feeling of ‘power’ may also be to do with feeling like the ‘cool guy’ as opposed to most of the other social pheromones which don’t really give so much credit to the wearer as P74 may give…

P74: A Rush Of Love Without Tangible Evidence Hate Persists!

SteveO (November 18, 2007):
"P74: A Rush Of Love Without Tangible Evidence Hate Persists!
Yeah I know my titles are a bit eccentric, but so am I.

Jasmin asked me to test P74 over the last few days and being that she has those over powering NLP tricks and that lovely Jasmin seduction pheromones working over the phone she convinced me without much apprehension.

So my tests started on Thursday and this report will include up until last night. I will say that I am not nearly finished with this unique and interesting molecule.

I have a 30 Ml bottle unscented 30 mcg per spray.

I started by wearing at first one spray (30 mcg) to gauge my self effects. I noticed almost instantaneously that I had a big smile. It was as if my lips were puckering up almost as if about to kiss. It was more than that though, there was something in my minds eye screaming power! I can’t really explain it just that I was thinking power, but not as world domination, but more in the line with world seduction. I was calm and yet focused on how to be successful with women. Very interesting thoughts that played out throughout my entire experiment.

I would have thought this self-affect would have diminished as time progressed, but it wasn’t to be. The power and feeling as if I was on top of my seduction game was there throughout. Maybe it would have been different if my game was chess or dominoes, but my game is seduction and that is what I felt most connected to. Somehow I knew there was a connection between P74 and my passion.

The interesting thing that did happen on Thursday was that when I went to Waly World to pick up some groceries I was absolutely driven to accomplish my goal. I was also up to 90 mcg at this stage. I was charged with getting what I needed and getting out of the store. Whenever I’m in a big store environment I can’t help but scope out other stuff not on my list and spend way more time than necessary. There were some missed opportunities because I just didn’t have the time (and yet I wasn’t rushed at all) to stop and venture into the social aspect.

I could feel those around me as if I carried an aura of charismatic diplomacy turning heads catching eye contact and wanting to interact but I was on my mission and by all things Pink and Squishy, nothing was going to deter me.

Strange now that I reflect back through my journal I see an inference that I went to my Happy Market where they only hire hot babes. Weird that I don’t remember anything from it just a note that blond babe was working and gave me very strong eye contact. I write: “She went out of her way to greet me. It wasn’t your typical Store Name greeting it was the kind they reserve for when the manager is next to them. She was blond HB8 the one with the straight hair and big boobs but wearing baggy clothes like normal. Damn girl! I’ll have to chat with her about those baggy clothes. She remembers my fling with Cody and asked if I’ve spoken to her. We talk about how she’s doing and how I miss her. She gives me the old aww that’s so cute. I hate when girls do that. I couldn’t help noticing her baby blues and how she wouldn’t stop making bedroom eyes. She was staring, but I needed to go.”

Like I said from my journal I know exactly who she is, but all the same don’t remember that. Oh well there’s always next time.

The strangest thing was that by the time I got home I was completely frazzled like all the energy was drained from me. There was nothing left in me and as such I needed a nap. A long nap so I took one. I also noticed that everyday that after a good four to five hours of use I got very tired. I was driven to get whatever I was doing done, but when I was done I was done mentally and physically.

During the next couple of days I failed at inputing anything into my journal, but from what I remember everything was hyper drive and crazy. I managed to mentally challenge myself to focus on conversations with people. Holly molly some serious conversations erupt like a volcano, spewing charisma and charm like they were hot molten lava and boulders. I talked with a friend of mine forever and it was deep stuff too. There was such a content feeling that everything was OK and right.

The only thing that I didn’t like about my testing is that I never got to test it sexually or really much more than one friend and a few strangers. One girl I met at Chilli’s was intriguing. It was like I could tell she was more underneath than her surface would allow her to expose. After talking for what seemed to be hours (it was deep like hours, but in reality about 15 minutes) her boss came over and said their were people waiting to be seated. She was the hostess. My friends conversations with me were in retrospect kind of boring. We just chatted about this sarge or that field report, but typical crap and yet it seemed to have been so much more.

In summary a very social conversation pheromones that adds depth to yourself and others digging its presence into the psyche and creating a determined mindset to accomplish greatness. Effects last about 4-5 hours for me with a massive come down at the end. My brain was tired.

I can see why Jasmosisinator asked me to test this molecule. Very nice little molecule that I will continue to test for a few more days. Strange, normally after testing something and being away from my personal mixes I always yearn to get back to mixes, not with this one. I like it!"

P74: A Rush Of Love Without Tangible Evidence Hate Persists! - #7 by TRDE59

TRDE59 (November 20, 2007):
"Good report, SteveO. Reps.

I’ve noticed the same thing, although I’ve come nowhere near 90 mcgs. My highest dosage was using 37.5 mcgs.

It’s a feeling of power, like you described, but a completely different kind of power than A314. Not a dominant “everyone will bow down to me” kind of power… But more like a confidence in yourself and your social abilities. You feel as though you have the ability to persuade people, make them happy, and be a genuinely good person to be around.

Alas, I hate depending on phero self-effects, cause they’re always so short lived. Tolerance develops too quickly, but you’re right in that it lasts much longer than most self-effects do… interesting…"

Woohoo! I finally got P74 to work. I needed about 4 sprays to obviously see the effects. I definitely saw an “all eyes on me” effect, and the other girls in class kinda wanted to get to know me a bit more.

How many mcg plz?

So how many mcg would that 4 sprays equal? I’m normally using 50 mcg and see good results from it.

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

Some early posts I found from MHarris himself in which he describes P74 as having ‘a human musk scent’…

Estratetraenol - got another request. How much? - #16 by MHarris

MHarris (November 21, 2005):
“I don’t have the est, but I have the promised form of methoxy ( methoxyestratetraenone ), and another putative. The putative, in particular, has that human musk scent that is typical of most real human pheromones, so I have high hopes for it…”

Estratetraenol - got another request. How much? - #18 by MHarris

MHarris (November 27, 2005):
"If it was a test pheromone, I’d have some idea, and just wouldn’t tell you. But this is a phase 1 putative, so I truly have no ideawhatsoever.

The fact that is smells human, though, is encouraging. I don’t have anything that smells human in my repertoire that doesn’t modify or effect behavior in some way.

The caveat when looking for legitimate putatives is that there are several legitimate pheromones which definitely don’t smell human. Not to my nose, anyway, so I can’t always follow it - you still gotta test, test, test. Then test some more.

In fact, one of the most powerful pheromones I’ve ever worked with doesn’t smell human one bit. If it wasn’t for the insistence on testing, I would’ve passed by it."

Estratetraenol - got another request. How much? - #28 by MHarris

MHarris (February 27, 2006):
"We’ve had [the putative] available for quite awhile.

We’ll release it under the Putative Pheromone (PP) nomenclature. I’ll give the word to the web person now."

Estratetraenol - got another request. How much? - #29 by MHarris

MHarris (February 27, 2006):
“It’ll be PP74.”

I suppose “Human Musk” describes it well. Lately, I haven’t really been able to wear anything with significant amounts of p74 because of the smell. It wrecks my clothes, and it stands out to the point of actively bothering me, which is a shame because I generally enjoyed the effects it provided.

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

Some recent opinions on the scent of P74…

martyk (July 2008):
“p74 is real good stuff, but it smells kinda odd to me. not like BO, but like something similar-ish. It took me a while to realize what I was smelling, but that was it. But I seemed to be the only one to ever notice it, and I always got good reactions from it.”

P74 Stand alone

Jedi_Nights (July 2008):
“I ordered [P74] unscented and after the alcohol it dry’s odorless”

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

More recent posts on P74 as the ‘cooperation pheromone’ as Kitten puts it…

P74 Stand alone
Jedi_Nights (July 2008):
"1:30PM: Showed up at the local watering hole and a dozen or so of the Saturday regulars were there and only two women. The mood was rather quiet. What little conversation there was verged on the somberness of work, home and life problems.

I went to the restroom and increased the application [of unscented P74 ] to 140mcgs! What the heck! Maybe I can OD. What happened next was really interesting.

An automobile race was on the tube, not audible, and nobody watching it. So I figured that I was just going to chill out and expect a dull afternoon. The air-conditioner was on low and the doors are all closed and I?€™m sitting there with a beer in hand wearing 140mcgs of P74 upwind of just about everyone.

About 15 minutes after I arrived, somebody fed the jukebox. As the silly little ditty from the early 50’s played, the guy next to me started singing along quietly to himself. I joined in for a couple of lines and then the other guy next to me got into it. Well our confidence was strengthened and we started singing louder.

The barmaid, who was apparently a little upset about the whole situation shouted, “Hey! We don’t do Karaoke here!” at which time two more guys joined in! Then she finally broke out laughing.

For the next four hours that jukebox didn’t get a rest as everyone took a turn at playing it and sometimes singing along. I’ve never seen this bunch have so much fun! And I think the jukebox made the owner more money than his beer sales today.

But now my bottle is getting pretty low and I am torn between trying to confirm this type of behavior at a different watering hole or take it to work when management wants to have a serious all hands meeting."

P74 Stand alone - #5 by Kitten

Kitten (July 2008):
“I love it when pheromones turn real life into a movie scene. I’ve seen a similar effect with P74 at lower levels, even 40 mcg. It’s like the cooperation pheromone. I know it is amazing for meetings and group brainstorming. Bet it’d be swell for team sports too.”

P74 Stand alone - #8 by Jedi_Nights

Jedi_Nights (July 2008):
"Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitten
…It’s like the cooperation pheromone. …

I think you nailed it, Kitten. Some sort of community bonder."

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

According to tacitus and now idle, higher doses of P74 (100 mcg+) may really take things to a new level…

P74 & Meo-est results

idle (August 2008):
"With P74 people are friendly because they see you as a cool/nice person. My observation is that it works more on Males rather then females. With a dosage above 100mcg people are begging to be your friend.
When i use more than 100mcg at parties the next day people that dont know me.. ask the others: “who was that cool guy”.. lets invite him again and stuff like that.

I am really started to get addicted to p74…
I got my bottle 10 days ago and its only 50% left…
i have to move at higher concentrations"

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

Again idle implies that P74’s effects may be particularly strong on males…

One word PUTATIVES Review(TAC,P74,TAF,TAA)
idle (August 2008):
“P74
If called by one world it should be Instant COOL Guy.
Be more accepted / liked by both males and females.
With a dosage above 100mcg people are begging to be your friend (strongly affect males).
It is easy to become friend with almost everyone you want.
P74 can take down the seriousness in >A314. You are still the business
guy.. but with p74 you are the business guy thats cool.
Great for buffering the negatives of Androstenone?”

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

In addition to my explanation in the quote above, idle provides us with an alternative explanation as to why some people (mainly men) haven’t seen too much when wearing only moderate doses of P74 (‘moderate’ as in well under 100 mcg ) standalone. Interestingly, Jasmin makes the point that she’s “observed men getting pretty good results using P74 alone, but maybe it’s not the type of results the male eye can easily see.”

Note except for Jasmin’s point all the posts below mentioning not seeing much from P74 standalone are from guys except for Petunia2323’s experience in the gym. P74 may work better on females at moderate dosages but should work well on guys as well at these dosages when combined with other communication enhancing pheromones (like Alpha-Androstenol)…

One word PUTATIVES Review(TAC,P74,TAF,TAA) - #8 by idle idle (August 2008):
“Yes.. P74 works at smaller mcg but not on males.
females seems to react even at 40 mcg.”?

P74 effect...help?

Petunia2323 (March 22, 2007):
"P74 effect…help?
So I just received my Instant Sexiness, Instant Shine, and putative P74!! I was totally excited to try them ALL out, but I kept my cool and decided to try them one at a time like peeps have suggested here.

I decided to try out the P74 first since it’s still not clear the effects of the pheromones and went to the gym. Here’s my dosage:

1 spray split between wrists
1 on neck
1 on chest
1 on sweatshirt.

I’ve read on other threads, mostly in the Men’s section, that the P74 is supposed to make other people chatty. However, when I went to the gym, I didn’t experience anything different. Even when I met up with my friends there, they didn’t seem too overly chatty or anything.

So I’m pretty confused right now. Did I not use enough? I got it in the TOGO bottle, which is so small that I feel like 2 sprays would use it up completely. I feel like 4 sprays should be enough to be effective. Does anyone else have stories about P74 on women?

Also, tomorrow I’m planning to use Instant Sexiness and Instant Shine to attract my target. Any good dosage amts that’d be effective?"

First P79 bottle smells like tequila: what dose do P74 and P79 need? - #2 by DrSmellThis

DrSmellThis (August 3, 2007):
“It’s weird, but I haven’t noticed much of anything with P74, except I felt more sociable when wearing 20mcg.”

First P79 bottle smells like tequila: what dose do P74 and P79 need? - #4 by nbully79

nbully79 (August 4, 2007):
“Same here! Not much with P74, P79 on the other hand shows itself very consistently.”

New Phero Guesses - #51 by Smudge

Smudge (December 7, 2007):
“Not sure about P74; it hasn’t don’t much for me”

New Phero Guesses - #60 by Smudge

Smudge (December 9, 2007):
“Have tried P74 on its own as well as with other social and sexual pheromones seperately and together. But nada, I got nothing out of it.”

2 Reports: P74 & Androstenone w/ Instant Shine & Realm Men

Godhand (March 27, 2008):
"Field Report #1:

I went to work with 4 sprays of P74 and Angel Men as a cover scent…and almost nothing at all happened. Maybe it was a fluke, but most of my other mixes have noticable effects when I wear them to work. What are some of y’alls results using P74 on its own? Do you get anything wearing it in a work environment?.."

2 Reports: P74 & Androstenone w/ Instant Shine & Realm Men - #3 by Godhand

Godhand (March 27, 2008):
“Thats exactly what I experienced. Everybody else was chatting away, but not with me. It almost felt like it made me want to get away from them. Weird…”

tmoz (July 7, 2008):
"Didn’t have too much initial success with P74 either. It’s not a good stand-alone product (for me anyways).

It’s one of my favorite putatives though, but it’s also a product that for some reason tends to only work when used in compliment with certain others."

Jasmin (July 7, 2008):
"I’ve observed men getting pretty good results using P74 alone, but maybe it’s not the type of results the male eye can easily see.That’s always an interesting issue.

What do you like complimenting it with? Maybe you have some other posts that talk about that?"

P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy

PheroQuirk’s suggestion in the quote above that “P74 seems to help reconcile components that would otherwise pull in different directions” might well be because of what tmoz says below: “the reason why P74 is so effective is because it compliments instead of enhancing…”

tmoz (July 7, 2008):
"It’s all in my journal. But I do agree that there’s some changes manifested (only subconsciously though) in the people around you when usingP74 by itself.

Initially it really was harder to gauge what exactly P74 was doing, but I came to the conclusion that it was mere subtle subconscious attachment other men feel around you, but bonding doesn’t happen unless it’s an addition of 'nols, or even TAL (unisex social attachment but not as amplified as nols for male bonding).

A pizza isn’t a pizza unless it’s got cheese and pizza sauce. Social bonding isn’t social bonding unless it’s got a conscious and subconscious molecular framework behind it."

tmoz (July 7, 2008):
"There’s something really special about P74. We already know what happens when used with nols, but it’s a putative that can just about be used with anything. People rave about how P79 enhances the phero cloud for all mixes, but the reason why P74 is so effective is because it compliments instead of enhancing.

How can you go wrong by adding attachment to another base? A314 with P74 is a great bond which feels more like a wizard and his apprentice. With none it seems to sensualise the overtly aggressive kick to a degree. etc etc."