Does anyone have any experience with a OD on P74? i’ve tried 6 sprays of it before, and i didn’t notice anything besides general friendlyness.
what was your dose on the bottle?
i OD’d, but i did it on purpose, and was with a friend who OD’d too so we were really getting alot of it…
12.5mcg Is that enough you think? i have a 25mcg bottle coming in the mail now.
Yeah, it’s friendly, but I like this variation of friendly more than something like Instant Openness or CTTM when used alone.
It’s more like it makes you into a guy people want to be friendly with, rather than stuff you spray on that makes people friendly, if that makes sense. P74, to me, is more like the cool guy everyone wants to hang out with. Like a band dude.
perronec,
i used 60mu + with another person using the same amount , and i dont care what anyone says, it is in fact possible to OD on it.
i felt terrible.
on aprox 30-60mu, its social, giddy, and got me alot of stares at the club.
i felt like an “IN” person to hang with, going on feedback.
after that amount,its jitters and headache-city.
So it works on chicks, too? That’s sort of like what I feel like when I use P74. Almost like I’m “In the band” and everyone knows it, like my better years in school when coolness and it’s benefits came free and easy.
Thing is, I thought of it more as a cool dude pheromone, more than cool mone.
That’s a lot of any product to use on yourself. It seems odd that we all talk about pheromone OD, but in an OD, how do we know we are not actually damaging ourselves?
Especially since no one can say with a definate 100% scientific response how pheromones actually work. Even to much water can be deadly!
i agree.
i myself would like clarification on the safety of pheromone use.
in small amounts, i have seen no adverse effects and even postitive ones.
a headache clues me in that i have overdone it.
alot of these have different OD ranges, one you can easily wear 100mu , another 10mu is pushing it.
thats what we use the forum for,feedback. pros,cons,dosing,ect.
Tacitus has given me comfort in his threads and postings that while its possible to use too much, he implies bloodwork is normal and he seems alot healthier than I 
Yes blood work for myself is normal as I recently had a physical to coincide with my dieting.
During the Vietnam war the government used Agent Orange to defoliate the forests and swore that it caused no adverse health effects. All the blood work on soldiers were fine. It was only 20 years later the blood showed signs of rampant cancerous growths throughout those exposed.
I do agree that small quantities, in moderation, are probably not harmful as all it really is is synthetic human musk, however, using a product until one is sickened (headaches) can NOT be good for you.
I know my OD that day has left a BAD omen around that stuff and it now sits in the corner dusty. I am not sure I’d ever like to go there again.
I believe its clear what needs to be done. We need to pick a few trees, and cover each one with a different type of pheromone and see if all the leaves fall off.
But make sure its on a college campus, because if the leaves don’t fall off, its sure to be a hot spot for women that only we know about.
Steveo,
if the goverment tells me pheromones are harmless, i will run screaming.
please keep in mind that sucralose found in YOUR adkins put me in the hospital, so the goverment isnt high on my list of people to trust anyways.
pheromones have yet to hospitalize me, when they do i will post it 
I don’t use any type of sugar subsitute! They are deadly. In fact the last I checked Atkins says stay AWAY from sucralose.
The only sugar substitute I ever endulge in is my once in a while Diet Dr. Pepper. But that’s rare!
i maintain that Adkins uses sucralose.
you can check.
saw it today as a matter of fact.
sucralose was developed as a pestacide originally. was tested for only 3 months before it was put out on the market. it is actually made from a sugar molecule but changed so that its no where near sugar.
evil stuff.
If you’re talking about the bars and drinks I have no idea.
I’m talking about eliminating bad carbs from your lifestyle. Seriously though, you can’t replace one sugar for another and think it’s going to be healthy. Especially man made crap like that.
I eat protiens and fats and get any carbs from veggies. I try and never use substitutes. I just do without.
Sucralose and all that other stuff is crap and yeah it’s deadly too.
AFAIK, Sorbitol is the only natural sugar substitute. It’s not much of a substitute either, it still has colories. Just plant sugar, or sugar alcohol.
It isn’t very mainstream though as it gives some people bad diarrhea. Like my dad heh heh 
he ate too many Sorbitol based Applets and Cottlets.
Sorbitol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Although the wiki makes it sound worse than it is with a lot of “may” causes.
Yeah I’d avoid any sucralose, aspartame, or other fishy stuffs…its just part of a instant-fix culture of 10-day diets and having your cake/eating it. Yea you get to have your cake and eat it too ooo no sugar but its full of toxins
Any of that stuff is just an excuse to eat/drink stuff that is normally bad for you…Guess what, it’s still bad for you. Nothing replace exercise and hard work
I don’t even get what p74 really does.. aybe I should OD…
My perception is that it takes others view you as “cool”. That’s the simple version.
When I first used it, it also made me much chattier and more socially forward. I felt “disinhibited”, like it had many of the positives of a good drink. In closed spaces, I notice something else, it makes me sort of tired and relaxed. Sometimes too relaxed in a really small space like my car. Even though I view it as sort of the “cool” pheromone, it may achieve that by being a a selective relaxant or disinhibitor.
Thinking a litle more about this… It’s definitely a “mellow” cool, not a “this guy is going to take me on his motorcycle at 180mph” danger type of cool, if that makes sense.
It’s laid back, and it may be attractive for that reason. People are stressed out a lot in their lives, and they don’t need friends or lovers who are going to add to that.
“this guy is going to take me on his motorcycle at 180mph”
this is more Instant Jerk territory
What do you drink on your diet Steveo? I’m carb-cycling, which is basically keto for 3 days, moderate carbs for 3 days, and then a day where I just eat whatever I want that isn’t too excessive. I drink mainly 100% juices, and like yourself, the occassional diet dr. pepper. I also get in my water intake, but I kind of wanted to add variety to what I can drink. I’ve been drinking Diet Arizona Green Tea, which has suclarose in it, but have been trying to find another option that doesn’t have sugar for my keto days, thus that’s why I asked what you drink. Maintaining the carb balance in foods is easy for me, but I’m one of those people who are “addicted to the liquids,” if that makes any sense.
I have also been wondering about the safety issues regarding pheromones, but I’m with Lor on this one - if the government steps in, and starts commercializing them through FDA regulation, then I’m out. Of course, that’s only to say that Androtics doesn’t get regulated, etc.
That’s crazy talk. I feel sick wearing some colognes, and fine wearing pheromones. Well, OK, I get a little ragey wearing androstenone, but… that makes sense. It’s the phero signature of a big muscle dude. Big muscle dudes get their way or they get cranky.
If anything, I think normal colognes should be regulated. The human compounds, the pheromones, don’t seem anywhere near as bad as the fake flowers and sea like notes, and candy crap or whatever the hell they’re using in normal colognes. The pheromones are just how HUMANS smell. We already make this stuff. They’d have to regulate our natural body scents.
I’m hardly what you’d call “chemically sensitive” person, either. I’m actually a hardy guy most of the time, but a walk through the cosmetics counter at Macy’s, and I feel sick for about an hour.
One time my girlfriend asked me to directly smell some sickly sweet candy stuff she just got. I didn’t hate it anything, but that was it. It blew my energy for the day, until until I slept it off. The fake scent stuff is sooooo far worse than the stuff already in our sweat, it’s not even funny. Give me the safety of pheromones any day!