i know that Androsterone is the main ingredient in A314 so.. how many mcg of Androsterone are in 1 drop of A314? is there any other product in A314 besides that? i want 1 spray of the experimone spray to equal the same amount as 1 drop.
now i know that Androstenol is the main ingredient in IO.. how many mcg of Androstenol are in 1 spray of IO? i want 1 spray of the experimone sprays to equal the same amount as 1 spray of IO. also how would i make my own cttm mix using Androstenol? what mcg and experimone products?
The formulas for most of the consumer products are not completely devulged to anyone but the staff. You cant blame AD, this is a competative business and people have tried to duplicate mixes in the past unsuccessfully.
Here is what they have devulged.
There are something like 17 other pheromones in A314. 80% of the mix is Arone. The newer spray formula may have a slughtly different formula then the drops.
IO is approximately 70% anol and 30% bnol. According to the technical info in the store under that product it has only those two mones. It totals 15mcg per spray of pheromone. You should be able to estimate your dosage.
CTTM was experimental and they never mentioned how many MCG’s per spray it had in it. Its basically 50% anol and 50% bnol.
The ratio of the same pheromone used in a mix can change the character of the mix.
Wat mcg of Androsterone would you recommend? And wat mcg of anol would be closest to 1 spray of IO? Im not sure if u mean 70% of the 15mcg is anol.. ?? Thanks
Read the store page. The “technical info” paragraph gives all the available info for each product incl total phero count for most and the number of other undisclosed components. Simply divide by the appropriate no of sprays (30ml or togo) to get the combined mcg for each spray - You can then make a reasonable stab at the amount of each primary component from there.
However, you can’t simply replace a product with an equivalent amount of one experimone as in all cases, the steering/undisclosed components do bring significant properties of their own. Also, no spray will ever be equivalent to oil because of the inherently different properties of the carrier. The nearest you can get is “impact” which may equate to to a reduced dose as in A314/b spray, although it still differs from oil in other significant ways. Similarly, TAA is far more laid-back and much shorter acting without the two undisclosed components that make it into IS
The the “official” repacement for CTTM2 is one spray each of 2x IO and IH.
I’ve used some androsterone from Love scent and found about 5 mcg to be plenty and in need of buffers. 10 would be way too much for me without a whole lot of anol or bnol and even then I don’t know if an OD could be stopped.
Rone as a standalone would probably need to stay at 2.5 mcg for me.
So what is a OD with Rone like for you ? I havent heard of many people Oding with Arone at least not like you hear about with Anone.
As a stand alone I am sure your right, he asked how many mcgs of arone in 1 drop of A314 though.
If you go by the Technical info in the store and we know from AD that A314 is approx 80% arone then thats about 19 mcg per drop. Take into consideration that its oil and diffuses slower that would put you around 10 mcg per spray to use the same amount of arone as in 1 drop of A314. Like I said it wont be the same on its own with out the buffers that are present in the actual formula.
You could get 10 mcg because you would probably wear more then one spray of IO anyways. Its hard to OD on and its not the classic OD anyways. Would it be like IO ? No not exactly IO had other components in it but it runs along similar characteristics.
Keep in mind your in your 20’s and Mobo is in his 40’s. There will be a difference in dosages.
An androsterone OD isn’t as bad as a none OD, that’s true. A none OD can lead to dire trouble because other guys want to stomp my ass and the only thing stopping them is the uncertainty if they really can. The none still has the little upside that it makes them think I’m a bad mofo.
Androsterone in excess amounts doesn’t make people aggressive, they remain very respectful but they don’t want to be around you very much. I’ve seen it in places like shops and restaurants I visit often, when I’ve worn too much rone the staff don’t stick around to chat but just do their job in a hurry to get the hell away from me ASAP.
While that can be fun to witness once in a while, it’s not something I’d like happening on a daily basis.
And it would be a disaster on a night out. If I want to be left alone on a friday/saturday night, I’ll just stay at home and drink by myself.
I’ve heard that beta-androsterone is a good buffer for alpha-androsterone. The beta allegedly should be higher than the alpha, like 7,5 mcg vs. 2,5 mcg or something like that.
I mixed mine with a-nol in cologne so i got 2 mcg rone and 8 mcg a-nol. I haven’t used it much but it’s been nice.
I have plenty of products and the possible combinations are just about endless. I lack the patience to try one thing at a time day in and day out, so it will be long before I have a grasp on every single thing I own.
Thanks for your response, I also notice the “stay the hell away” effect of to much arone when I use it in a alpha womens combo. Of course I dont get the feeling they want to kick my ass but they just avoid me. I can use about 2.5 to 5 mcgs before that occurs though as long as I buffer correctly. For men it should be considerably higher though before they reach that threshold. I do agree with you that if he uses 10 mcg he should buffer because on its own its not going to come close to A314.
So illmatic90… If you want the same amount of arone that is in one spray or drop of A314 then go with 10 mcg.
If you want to use it stand alone or with just a little buffer go lower like 5 mcg.
It all depends on how you plan to use it.
Edit>>> Ah wait I just saw why this is occuring, Misen your also in your 40’s. Older men are higher in the arone vibe naturally then the anone vibe. Younger men are higher in the anone vibe naturally then the arone vibe. Your theshold will be different then his. Our ages make a huge difference in the dosages.
I want to clarify that rone never has caused aggression towards me from anyone, it only makes people keep their distance whenever possible. It’s intimidating, but probably not physically. I notice that people weigh their words and avoid speaking when I’m on a rone OD. It’s like they’re afraid to be judged by me if they say the wrong thing or that I’ll object to what they said and start a debate they already know they’re going to lose.
It doesn’t have any of the confrontational aspects of none but quite the opposite. A none OD means some ape is bound to come up to me beating his chest, a rone OD means that the very same ape will leave me alone but so will everybody else.
i’m thinking about getting A-nol and B-nol in 10-15 mcg/ spray to substitute for IO and IH.. does that sound like a reasonable substitution for those 2? how much a difference would a mix be and work if i use a-nol and b-nol in place of IH and IO?
You won’t notice much difference in alphanol at all - it is still very bright and bubbly. I used plain alphanol from elswhere for a long time bedore picking-up IO and didn’t notice a lot of difference for an equivalent dose.
Betanol alone is maybe a little more serious compared to IH but can be steered with a little IS no problem.
IO is pretty-much 70/30 alphanol/betanol, whilst IH is the other way round.
IO would be almost the same with a 70/30 ratio of anol to bnol but not IH. IH has 3 pheromones in it. That third one is what creates that intimate connection and trust. Bnol on its own is open but serious.