Linearity of 1:3 mcg Rone to 74 test log

4/22
sent payment for order #90278

“The Androsterone Experiment” REPEAT
Product:
Alpha AndrosteRONE, 2.5 mcg per spray, neroli 6 %
Putative P74, 30 ml 15 mcg per spray , neroli 6%

MMDI
Assumptions:
A. Andro. (hereafter eRone) is a sedative neurosteroid. It produces “cool guy” fx. It may signal reproductive fitness. It can be intimidating, mostly toward males. It can also encourage paradoxical disrespect of the wearer.
Self fx always come first in my product usage.
Amounts of eRone above 5 mcg approach OD.
1-5 mcg eRone is twice as well received across all social contexts as -eNone in a linear curve.
So far, 5 micros TAH seems a weak buffer to 10 micros eRone.
Preliminary Conclusions as to eRone Buffering, Increments of 1-5 MCG :
Experiments support that buffering is possible, best at 1 mcg to each 3 of buffer. Linearity of fx remain up to 5/15, after which Rone’s intimidation becomes difficult to control.
TAK is too sedating at 5 micros. TAC is less potent a buffer than TAH at 5 micros.
The role for molecule P74 is superior. Linearity of 1:3 mcg Rone to 74 remains, up to five doses.
The quantity of eRone in A314 oil or B spray feels somewhere between 2.5 and 5 mcg per dose based upon self fx and intimidation factor.
The intimidation factor of 3-4 drops oil = ~ 5 mcg eRone and 2 sprays TUTH combined. Steering in Heat drives the intimidation.
A314 oil and spray do not feel like 10-15 micros eRone.

combinations:
1/2 to 4 sprays eRone (1.25 - 10 mcgs)
1/2 to 4 sprays P74 (7.5 - 60 mcgs)

other products available for pairings or comparison:
A314 oil rev 32, Heat, 2.5, 30ml, IG 30 ml, P102 5mcg to-go, P96 25 mcg to-go, P75 5 mcg 30 ml, P83 25 mcg 30 ml

OK. Spray 1 each of 10 mcg P74, erone and IG on your arm. They should be tested each apart. Preferably all in neroli. What are your observations? If they were blind tests, could you identify? Which 2 of 3 are most alike? Why?

The only thing further I would add is that Rone is not at all an easy molecule to understand. Success with it in any mixes requires really using it a lot and being prepared to be “too safe.” Which is why you don’t see many tests. 2.5 mcg per spray of that and TAL is the easiest intro into more complex mixes with TAH and higher Rone. Examine also had many posts on “It’s Him.”

Adding small amounts of TAL or eRone to a standard IG or 314 base is also easier to control.

Something I realized yesterday is that there are 4 women in my office who are pregnant. They are all women I started hitting on / flirting with privately back in early Nov 2013, when I got my first batch of Pheros: IO, TAC, and Ammo is the combo I used on them. They all got pregnant in late Nov. One of them is having twins. They just happen to be the same women who I was writing about in my journal (that part since deleted) as being great responders back in Nov. Whenever I come around, these women all send me emails thanking me. Granted, I do bring them candy.

IO contains a-nol which affects women’s hormone levels. TAC had strong “lower body” effects which I observed on these women and wrote about in my journal. Ammo has both rone and enone, which got a strong notice from these women. They all got pregnant within weeks of my notes on them. Granted all four are around what, 27, which is an average age to start having kids.

These 4 women I observed, wearing ammo, tac, and IO, lean way back in their chairs and spread their legs wide, relaxing. Giving me huge IOI. 6 months later, they are all 6 months pregnant, it just so happens. Rather difficult detail to miss. This one woman with twins is the size of a planet now.

Second observation. At the beginning of 2013 a particular combination of supplements I was taking started to cause me to get a buildup of ear-wax that blocked my ear canals, and required draining several times. It was at this same time that I began cheating on my wife and two other women fell instantly in love with me. also at precisely the same time, my wife quit taking her birth control pills without telling me and became pregnant again. (luckily I wanted another anyway!)

At the point where my my ears started backing up, my wife started refusing to use condoms with me (which continues). Similarly, the other women had also refused to use condoms with me. One woman who said she loved me conceived again only a month after I broke up with her (I calculate based on her online baby registry due date). The earwax differences were associated with the same gene that affects underarm odor.

coincidences don’t prove anything, but they certainly make me wonder.

Now as some actual pheromone scientists have pointed out, the highest level of natural pheromone exposure would be when a woman has direct contact with semen. It is my nagging feeling that pheromone exposure engages women in behavior related to maximizing exposure to pheromones. Exposure to semen directly would be a woman’s way to maximize that, naturally.

Molecules currently pending / on hold due to shipping issues and other issues at AD.

the staff member holding the money orders has been out sick.
further, custom orders have been on-hold until today
and there’s the shipping crisis, etc.

order [edited by mod for privacy]
eRone, 2.5 mcgs
P74 15 mcgs

order [edited by mod for privacy]
TAF 2.5 mcgs
TAL 2.5 mcgs
P78 15 mcgs

All bottles are 30ml, light neroli

Notes:
My current batch of IG is Akuto scent, which will make your eRone, IG, P74 comparison difficult. It seems that when I wear Akuto, all I can smell is Akuto! However as I am going though my IG fairly quickly, I may order it next time in standard Neroli to aid in comparison.

update. “Mickaelia says I don’t see any order notes to indicate that we received your money order. We change orders to processing immediately after receiving money orders.
Can you give me that tracking or MO # so I can ask shipping about this.”

No I didn’t keep the MO reciept. so I guess I’m screwed. Weren’t custom orders on-hold until this week?

4/22
sent payment for order #XXXXXX
eRone 2.5 mcg
P74 15 mcg

I don’t know how they lockbox mailed payments. It maybe got misplaced in the confusion. I would think Brian could sort it.

I’m still going to be a little circumspect here, since there’s always a chance this may open to others. The others might at some future time prove trustworthy or not. Certain matters I will deal with by PM. Here’s some insight into formulary alchemy. TAA, P74 and erone smell strongly. Mixes with them often do also. In a mix of TAA and P74, a dash of P79 mostly eliminates that odor. This was the insight I needed to build these mixes. I may contemplate some 314 B spray. Adding a dash of P79 or something to it. Adding a little extra rone, P80, etc. Note that TAA oil used 20 mcg, roughly = to 7.5 mcg spray, I’d think. Some 15 mcg of rone in a drop of A314, that’s only really half that much in a spray. Much less sprayed rone. You won’t find an official post that states A314 or IG is alpha androsterone. I leave you to interpret that as you will.

If I devise a status product formula that works (or any formula), I’ll give Androtics a look and ask before posting it. I would be tempted toward P76, 79, 80, a tiny amount of 75, TAF, P104, rone, a hint of -enone and P74. I still need to look at P97 and 95.

Also, TUTH, P83, P102, TAF, P96, maybe P74, P79, maybe P102 or P91. Maybe P78 and TAA. You could leave out the F and 96 to make it cheaper. Maybe TAK instead of 104. I think 79 needs to be there. Super bomb. Everything high impact. Maybe a dash of P104 for balance. Maybe a little rone. It’s a high impact pheroproof formula with maybe a few micros of P104 so the user doesn’t get jitters or look like a madman freak.

A touch of 104 with 314 adds a hint of “mastery.” Who needs THDOC with P104 around?

Don’t worry about it, LWAT. We’ll take care of you.

“a dash of P79 mostly eliminates that odor.”

I was a bit slow on this one. You had mentioned the elimination of odor in various combinations. I think you are testing out how to eliminate the odor of certain molecules by hydrogen bonding? I don’t know if eliminating the odor is the main goal, or if the bonding has other sought-after effects beyond stealth.

“I notice a metallic smell like P75 . I used to like layering 83 over 75, because the net result was nearly no scent.”

“Stealth A314: Products – 314 oil Rev. 32 and P74 , 6% neroli , 7.5 m c g. Apply 1 spray to neck and allow to dry. Apply atop 74 two drops 314. Result – barely any noticeable odor of neroli or 314. No apparent diminution of 314 effects.”

and here:
“In a mix of TAA and P74, a dash of P79 mostly eliminates that odor. This was the insight I needed to build these mixes.”

“TAA
P74
TAF
P79
Like”

"Note that some of these formulas have a different smell layered than bottled. If you were to build a mix layered on your skin, the bottled version may smell quite differently. "

“Erone, P75, 76, 78, 79 and 80…I’m pretty sure would work. Higher on the 78 as a buffer. It’s similar to TAA and ANOL. Ideally, they’d merge together with some nice hydrogen bonding fixation for the P80. You could toss in 2.5 mcg of TAA or TAF also. I view P78 as similar to a very popular molecule used in phero blends for the ladies.”

I keep seeing you come back to merging together with hydrogen bonding, and elimination of scents. IG does not have that strong eRone scent, you have mentioned. You have shown a great deal of interest in the scent of IG vs. eRone and P74, as this links back to the insights driving your mixes. I don’t fully understand the weight of the importance with regard to the scent, other than providing stealth. just stealth effects? you also mentioned hydrogen bonding in the context of diffusion. The thought crossed my mind that if they bonded in the bottle, this may change their diffusion characteristics. “stealth diffusion”

"One of the Instant products feels like stealth diffusion to me. If it isn’t by design, you should nevertheless use it as a prototype. It’s the stealthiest you’ve got. It feels like a ridiculously pure synthesis of the base molecule. Not the fragrance package. The package doesn’t even smell like neroli . "

Your assumptions are essentially correct. But, my aim would not be to duplicate but to innovate. I view IG as a pre-made base into which I might insert -enone or P80, to change the character. My recent experience–drowned from head to toe dripping mones in hair, skin and clothes… It can be difficult to use the layering concept in FL. And, I kinda wonder how much skeeters like mones, since they do use commercial phero traps and all animals luv 'em. FL is like Apocalypse Now. Fucking paved jungle. Monsoons every day. Poor bastards wearing wool suits. Generally, the golf shirt is widely accepted as men’s attire, for the sake of basic human rights! So, I might have to dose and reapply. Wash the wrists, reapply. Stay away from neck apps in thunderstorms! And at night around skeeters.

I think it might be good if you confined your reports on high-dose BNOL and P96 here. Are you getting the synergy I expected? I can’t test it until I get more BNOL. I would expect P96 to up the effect quite a bit. 50 mcg each should do it. P79 might really do it, added in. By all means, keep your journal, but remain circumspect. I could really care if people snatch up P83. It’s not rare now. Nols and 96 need to be used wisely. Should I make a prepared mix, I may have to send you a sample. I would just send it in a plain bubble mailer with stamps. No return address. Free. If you make your usual layered mix, P96, TUTH, IG, BNOL, these combos aren’t unusual. Most would have used IH. I’m not going to comment on my hypothetical biochemical basis. At least not topside, in the “unclassified forum.”

This forum allows me to refresh my writing instincts and be often less secretive. No more than necessary. I participate in a forum where we discuss highly sensitive information. They are bolder than I am! They’ve taken photos of restricted areas. One identified a facility in extreme western WV. Hiding in plain site. Next to a helipad and under 100,000 sq ft of WV mountain. Another guy I swap stories with…one of most intrepid guys at the national archives and presidential libraries. And this is how I developed my detective skills. But, I’m cautious. Step out of line, and you find federal agents at your door. I tend to focus on historical aspects. Years of reading finally let me put all the pieces together and refine instincts. I look at the world differently, at times as a very dangerous place. And what I see with mones reminds me that people are prone to emotional and dangerous responses. And that makes democracy in a dangerous world difficult. And why leaders determine the public cannot know certain things. They’ve been chosen to protect us from ourselves.

You have the Alex Jones types and Glenn Beck. The FEMA coffins (actually, plastic grave liners). No, Alex. They wouldn’t bother with coffins. More like bulldozers.

That said, in exchange for your being judicious, I’m more willing to be open. This may give you first crack at testing any mixes I may devise. Or sharing “special cologne” with other men. With no attribution to mones or me, of course. I will require a female tester, and am looking at ways to supply a sample to one while also maintaing mutual anonymity. It would be free, via USPS, no return address. A PO Box would be ideal, if all I need is the box #. For yourself, pity you can’t have a lockbox in a locker at work. You’d better keep mones away from wifey. While traveling, I may lock in the car at night or double padlocked (one container inside another) in luggage. If I think the luggage is subject to theft, I cable lock that. Or the lockbox in the room. I inventory the mix bottles. I treat them like nuclear codes. Original, labeled bottles are always in my sight or locked. A pocket pack (camera case) stays in my pocket. I shower, it’s in sight. The travel mones case is locked. The camera case has only coded bottles. I carry febreze or a cheap fragrance in the pocket. Sprayed away from app points.

It’s a cover story. The febreze is for smoky bars in FL. If someone (super smeller female) gets wise, I hand them the febreze bottle and invite them to spray. If I use a cologne, it’s rather cheap and generic. That way, they can go to Walgreen’s and get some. Or, I say it’s a Creed sample bought from Amazon. A $10 sampler. I say I can’t spare any. It’s diluted. The full bottle costs $100 +.

I’m going to post something to your journal. It won’t be 100% true. As Brian at times does, sometimes edits are required to prevent people obtaining improper information. I’m not going to distort or lie, but people need to arrive at their own test results. By downplaying, I’d rather results negate lowered expectations. Let them see what is real rather than what is told.

On that same theme, I almost had to go off on Blacky Chan. Androtics gives away a small fortune in GC’s. It’s for marketing, of course. EVERY business has to market. A new member who want’s friendly help…a potential customer…calling him a tampon is just crude. Everybody knows it. Spin about tough love is BS. SO I mustered my best spin of my own. Steve isn’t my buddy and never will be. I don’t trust him. It does nullify me as any perceived threat. Should it ever be necessary to join his forum or secret putative decoding star chamber. I doubt I will. If (they, the public), feel I’m just another sap ground in the gears of the International Androtics Conspiracy, they will be less defensive and less hostile.

Think of it like the political resurrection of Dick Nixon. Impeached Pres becomes elder statesman, author, kinda policy wonk old dude. The past is forgotten.

I will continue them over here. I have only had a truth serum effect briefly in the past to B-nol w/ wife once when spraying it under the table on my hand, several times, in an enclosed room. And once at a party when combined w/ P83 and some others I can’t recall. In Sunday’s example, I was getting truth serum hits all day from multiple people - and myself. But it was far more pleasant, a lovely feeling that watever inner truth was just revealed was a beautiful thing. The arrousal I felt was quite interesting. One seems to lead to the other. The nols seem to make me a bit manic - I had this with IO as well, but it’s fleeting. There’s no brakes on this train of romance. Memories are being accessed and then set back in a more rosy light. I see a pretty woman and w/ the P96 I feel a crush, and with the B-nol, there’s no stopping it, I will put my hooks into her. And she will like it. There is no other way to see it. However, diffusion environoment was not so good on my last test - too windy! I will need to keep trying this pair. This combo increased my sexual desire dramatically - even the day following, I was literally horny the whole day Monday as well, even when I got home today… it was only the 4th or 5th time getting off in 24 hours that I started to crash this evening, and it’s gotten a bit downer now… bizarre behavior for me.. my wife caught on to my sex binge early on, but she liked it with me - however P96 by itself I recall reducing my desire substantially from the outset, I already felt satisfied. This combo seems the opposite. Too early to say if the effect will persist with regular use of the combo or not. I did get some sexual desire with b-nol by itself before, but it was fleeting… actually I had been disappointed with the seemingly fleeting nature of the effects, mostly it seemed calming and that’s it, a bit more open.

This guy is so arrogant and unhelpful. I try to just mentally screen out any unhelpful comments. Many are at least helpful, even if they have questionable advice. I fell back on what my father taught me, that science depends on very careful and detailed observations. Details that might seem unimportant can form patterns in a journal when you step back and look at it later. They also make wonderful confessionals, which I’m finding therapeutic.

Finding a suitable female tester is very very difficult indeed. I do not trust my wife to understand the potential of pheros, just like she doesn’t seem to understand, after all my explanations, what vitamins and herbs are useful for. She doesn’t do well with anything “theoretical” of this nature. she distrusts science in favor of traditional living. she still does not believe in carrying cell phones around. I don’t want anyone else to know I’m using them other than her. She is a hard sleeper though - I might spray something on her while she’s sleeping, see how that works out. She has a variety of maybe 12 colognes that she alternates using, I might consider putting something in one. She is so haphazard about using them though. I know if I showed any interest in them she’d get suspicious.

I would not put anything in a car, here in the city, they get broken into every day. My work however, the broadcast center is Fort Knox these days. I could snag an equipment locker that even the wife couldn’t access.

I wouldn’t dose your wife. You might give away a “gift” to a female friend or whatnot. “This means you, Lady Dr. horndog.” The constant problem with mixes and new product. Blacky and kin wanna have 18th-century philosophy debates. “Where’s your test reports, BC?” We now have pretty conculsive proof that Filipinos, Chinese, Koreans, Germans and others do not process mones as alike. Three different genotype polymorphisms, GG, AA and AG. I think those are the base sequences. These groups are not homogenous as to -enone production or reception. Also, some will not be homozygous. Hell, the blue-eyes recessive trait is actually being bred out of peeps in USA, due to immigration. As is blonde hair. Nothing racist, just a fact of lots of Latin migration.

When people say that some users personal experience is “misinformation,” this statement has been prima facie proved false. We now have hard genetic evidence. Unless you know the peeps DNA sample. Unless Blacky has the same polymorphisms as you, his data isn’t the same. That’s 100% true of -enone. Although the -enone in A314 is tiny, 2 drops in Japan is going to have a different impact. The young girls can prolly detect 100 nanograms. This partly explains Eastern fascination with the West. The tall American with -enone is a stranger in a strange land.

No, we can defeat bullshit with science. Next time this shuck and jive crap science creeps in, here’s my answer: “About that misinformation, do you happen to know if your ABCC11 polymorphism is AA, AG or GG?” Many Germans are GG. Asians are AA. Every country is different. Wow, then, peeps would have to actually take a whole hour and read. That’s not happening.

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/functional-abcc11-allele-essential-biochemical-formation-67624.html

Meanwhile, I’m trying to debug P83. Gotta put on the instinctive super brain as to what gives me socially benefical hydrogen-bonding parameters. Non-standard neroli or DPG won’t work. The molecular synergy is required.

packaged delivered. both orders in one.

Let me know if you have any testing combo requests.

I still have b-nol, P96, and P102. Heat.

No more IG or P75.

when I reorder IG, I’ll get neroli this time so I can do your comparison.