Phero-therapy session... with free cookies!

Well, I found myself with about an hour to kill today, and I know my first order is set to arrive this afternoon, so I should start my journal!I haven’t got a title yet, but I’ll see what happens and add one at the end.

I’m Beea, I am 21, and a college student in the US. I studied all sorts of things, but am centering in on Pharmacy as a profession, even though I never thought I’d end up in science field. I am really athletic…a NCAA athlete at school… but I still enjoy being very girly and feminine. Astrologically I am a textbook Scorpio, and I am an ENFP myers briggs, with the E/I split at 51/49… and increasing introversion as I get older.

I am definitely outgoing, and usually optimistic, but do need alone time to recharge, and tend to be easily overwhelmed by lots of people. I’ve never had an issue asserting myself, and can definitely be too loud in a social situation. I tend to take on the role of nurturer in my friendships, and am naturally VERY domestic.

My life-long best friend and I are coming to realize the success of our friendship, though, comes from the fact that we are BOTH nurturers, and are able to feel very fulfilled in the balance of caring for, and being taken care of by each other. As I become more self aware and start to realize the things I do desire in a romantic relationship… this balance is definitely important. When I love, I love very deeply, and therefore want to lavish all of my affection to someone… but its taken me awhile to understand that I want to be taken care of, as well. What I look for in a relationship is not just someone to love… as a scorpio, I could convince myself to fall in love with a bar of soap. What I look for is someone that makes me feel comfortable enough to let down my guard of always caring for myself, and allowing another to care for me.

I speak so much about my desire in relationships because it is my current status that has given me the jump start to explore pheromones. I spent the most wonderful year in a relationship with my now ex-boyfriend. We met and instantly grew very close; it was just the sort of fit with another that is undeniably something special. He is younger, and new to our college, and we began to date exclusively less than a month into his college career.

Because of this, we did our best to make sure he was able to develop his own life here that did not revolve around me, he continued to meet new people and go out with his guy friends and I never questioned, just allowed him to have these experiences. I am his first “real” girlfriend (the girl next door for a month or two in jr. high, and a long distance summer camp fling precede me) and he has often said that our experiences were very new to him. He had a lot of family issues that caused him to take time off before coming to college, and I think they greatly affected his ability to let himself experience emotions. I fell in love quickly, and I said so around Month 3. I blurted it out unexpectedly one wonderful night… and he couldn’t say the same. He told me he was getting there, and he was very glad I felt that way, but didn’t want to say it until he could really be sure. From that point on, he was incredibly affectionate. He took fantastic care of me, and did everything he could to make sure I wasn’t upset about his decision. I was very much not upset. I fully respected it, and knew it’d mean so much when it finally came.

Later that month, we had a falling out of sorts… things felt “off” for a few days, and when we talked about it he became very very upset. He started to cry (which I’d later find out was for the first time in several years..) and say that he was feeling very unsure and overwhelmed, and scared because he couldn’t say he loved me yet. He also mentioned that it was almost one year to the date of his mother’s admittance to a psych ward. We did not have a fight. I listened, and told him that it was okay for us to take some space. We did jump in very quickly, and were spending a LOT of time together. From there, we backed off a bit, but stayed together. We re-shifted our focus to our independent lives, and then a month later talked about it again, and he said how happy he was, and that he knew he wanted to be with me.

Around Month 6, a similar thing happened. We grew a bit irritable with one another… and talked about it, and he said he felt confused because he was still not sure about feeling “love” and that he was having issues figuring out what it is that he wanted. This time, I suggested we take a few days of zero contact, just to clear our heads, and reassess then. We didn’t really talk about it much after those three days, but he began acting like he loved me again, and we carried on with our happy life.

Our relationship was always incredibly happy. We had a few very very mild disagreements every once and awhile, but for the most part, always enjoyed each other. The one thing, though, was an issue of sex. He suffers from severe Rheumatoid Arthritis, and is on very strong medication to help with it. He is also much less interested in sex than one would expect a 20 year old boy to be. We’ve talked about that, and he says he doesn’t think he’s had an orgasm, even on his own(all his mechanisms work…its not physical, its sensation based…) and that “actual sex” just didn’t feel that good. So, we abstained for awhile… and kissing, cuddling, hand holding, and massages are where we found our intimacy. I was the first person he’s ever been with, sexually, so he has said that he isn’t sure if it just doesn’t feel good with me, or if it just doesn’t feel good, period. (I’ve mentioned my medication theory, he doesn’t seem to agree with it. Not much I can do there.)

During this past summer, though, we started to find our “hooking up” groove. He became more comfortable, and told me when he wanted me and such… and he felt much better just fooling around, and not having actual sex. I was totally okay with that. It was definitely getting better.

He’s always been the type to really show me off as his girlfriend, holding my hand, introducing me to everyone and all that. He can definitely be inconsiderate sometimes… but he’s a 20 year old boy… what else do you expect? I am very close to his family, and his parents have called me their “daughter in law” a few times… (makes us both uncomfortable…) But honestly, our summer together was FANTASTIC. We went on vacation together, had so much fun, and were really hitting our sex groove, so all seemed well.

When school started back up again, He seemed off, and I asked him about it. He said he couldn’t do a relationship right now. That he needed time to be on his own, because he’s never had the experience of that at college before. He said he was still so unsure of his feelings and was worried that because he didn’t feel love yet, that it might not happen for him. He SOBBED as he told me this. He said he cared about me so much, but was just afraid because he knew that I knew I loved him, and he couldn’t figure it out. He said that he couldn’t just be with just me, and no one else, and know that I was the one he wanted to be with forever.

I listened, and accepted what he told me. It was very hard, but I knew he’d been having trouble with his feelings for awhile, and I love him so much that I did just let him have the space he needed. He said he still cared about me, though, and wanted to remain in each other’s lives. We tried that for a day or two, but it just kept winding up with us rehashing and questioning the break up. He told me the next day he couldn’t think about any of the good things without crying. He told me it didn’t feel right, but it had to be for now…

I typed him up a long explanation of my feelings, telling him that love to me meant he was my companion. I said I could allow him the space he needed, but that I honestly felt more loved by him than I ever had before. I typed it, because I didn’t want to pressure him and demand a response, it was just things I wanted him to know. He did respond, with more of the same he said before… and then I came up with the idea that we needed to just NOT talk about it anymore unless something was to change.

From there… we got very distant. A few irritated exchanges happened, and then we just stopped really trying to keep contact for a week or two. We are just now beginning to talk to one another, though I know that I am still keeping my space, and I am not the one to initiate conversation, because I don’t want to push him, and I do need him to miss me.

In the past 3 weeks I’ve had just about every emotion imaginable about the subject… I’ve been devastated… in denial… ANGRY… “fine”… I’ve pathetically googled “how to get your ex back” and read all of the stupid articles that lead to $50 e-books designed to take advantage of people that are hurting. I don’t need to buy one of those books. This is not a situation where two people fought because one nagged or someone cheated. We genuinely need space, and time. I am focusing my energy into taking care of myself and making myself happy.

Where do pheromones fit this, you ask? Well, we sit next to each other for an hour long lecture, 3 times per week. Its a very crowded hall, and we are in very close quarters. We’re beginning to talk and laugh more in whatever whispering we get in… and I want to make our attraction undeniable.

I know he needs space, and honestly, I think he needs to have a random one night stand. I hate thinking of the specifics of it… but I know it will help him clear up his mind a bit on what it is that comes from HIM with his issues. His low sex drive never bothered me… My previous relationships were men that wanted me ONLY for sex… so to have a genuine connection with someone is very welcome for me. Also, When we are on, sexually… we are GREAT for me… and I do, honestly, feel very loved by him.

My first order (that is STILL not here yet!??! I did one day delivery on MONDAY! :frowning: ) contained IS/b and P83, and this morning I ordered some EST.

IS/b because the kittenish sexy vibe should do very well with my mix of extroversion and introversion, and should help me soften my appeal and not come off too harshly.

P83 because the comments mentioned how it was that “love” feeling multiplied, but I’m now seeing that it should be directed by something else, and will help him open up and be expressive..

and EST because that seems PERFECT for me… very much. I am already curious about the combination of P83 and EST, and think some wonderful cuddling could happen there…

Things I still want: IH, p74, and maybe some Eow and pink sugar!

I observed a lot this past week on how people normally treat me, when I am not wearing pheros. I know that I am a very pretty girl, and an outgoing person, and as such I do get a decently high amount of hits now. I rarely open a door for myself, and often catch people’s stares. Its typically men very interested in only sex, though, and I definitely had a problem with being used a lot in my late teens, and honestly, until I met my Love, who I will call L.

I am very curious and have some definite other experimental “targets” identified to see how their reactions will differ under the influence… There is also a party tomorrow night… and I am thinking that would be the PERFECT place to try out IS/b for a first run… I just have to get my darn package first!!!

Okay… now to give this a title… well… first a cookie to anyone who’s actually read this far! I mentioned I AM very domestic… my cookies are SO worth the read! Even if it has turned into a bit of a 'mone tinged writing therapy session…

ANYWAY. My hour is just about up. I hope my rambling is at least entertaining? I definitely welcome any outside observation or more questions or suggestions about my relationship, though… so… talk to me!

I’ll be back later tonight… and will HOPEFULLY have a package in hand!

Wow, what an awesomely long post to kick off your journal! I stuck around for the cookies though… :wink:

Haha anyways, hi Beea, I’m Spinach, and I’m an ENFP as well. I’m really looking forward to reading your posts, consider me subscribed. :smiley:

Thanks for sharing your story, it seems very personal but it is detailed background info for feedback and future reflection.

Hmm it’s pretty unusual for AD packages to be so late, have you tried giving them a call? I’m in the southern hemisphere and have never had problems with super late packages! Good luck, hope it arrives in time. If it doesn’t, although I really hope it will, get out there and rock it anyway. :smiley:

No Package still. Let’s still hope for tomorrow, though?

Also… I know that because we know each other well, he already knows my scent.. around how many exposures does it take for someone like this to become affected?

Okay… package has been delivered to my town- says fed ex tracking. I REALLY REALLY hope it gets here today because I am very nervous for the first party we will both be at and NOT be a couple.

I know it most likely won’t affect him, and I am trying to not pay him any mind and just have my own good time tonight, but I’d LOVE some self effects from IS/b to just boost my confidence a bit on a night I know the odds are it will be a bit down…

Either way I am sure I can be fine and have a good time. I just need to keep reminding myself to EXPECT NOTHING from him. Even when we were a couple, at parties we were always more about being with our own separate friends. Just going to look fantastic, focus on myself, and have a good time with my friends.

or so i will keep repeating to myself…

So, officially no package today. Sad, but I suppose it’ll be good for observations’ sake.

Gott a hit today, not wearing any scent at all, in a burger joint… a man asked me how I was doing, and then made a big deal when I smiled and said I made him feel a lot better.

I tried to make eye contact after that to carry on the exchange, but no luck. Simply a hit for hits sake… which is very much the norm for me.

Guess I will have to do my best tonight at the party and create my own shine tonight. Will post how it goes!

siiiiggghhh

That was hard.

I think I did decently. Had a good time and didn’t pay him much mind. Someone I’ve always wanted to flirt with was there, and he was showing some interest in me… so he and I talked… but nothing crazy. I wanted to stay respectful. I know L was staring while other guy was hanging out with me, though.

Then when things started to wind down it got strange… it was a smaller group, and L was still there. He recently really hurt his knee (tore his meniscus…) so I could see he was not feeling alright and did ask if he was okay a few times.

Eventually, I just kind of left without saying goodbye to anyone… I really did not want to pretend to be happy and confident anymore and it was getting really hard. So, I mysteriously disappeared… around the same time as the other guy did, too. Not intentionally, but, hey, a little mystery there is never a problem I suppose.

I am very awkward at parties. I can play the confident center of attention for a little bit, but then I just don’t want to be there anymore and feel strangely uncomfortable in social groups and then start to get shut out a little. Some guys that are L’s jerk-bag friends.. (not the ones he is closest to, or the ones I like…) heckled me a bit as I was leaving… they were just drunk and rude guys, and I laughed a little, but mostly ignored it and left.

This situation is so hard because I do honestly believe that L needs to experience being single… but I am so scared as to how his choice of company will shape and change him while he is. I really don’t want him to start hanging out with those jerk guys and be one of them. He is not like that… and if it’s his choice to become that way… then I don’t want him. It was very sad to see him in pain, though, and not be able to comfort him at all.

All in all, though, No drama. I had fun with people that care about me. Got some attention from a guy that is intriguing, but not enough to disrespect L and what we shared… just enough to make him look and wonder if losing me is really what he wanted. Also, I met the other guy, who I will call “T” just before I started dating L last year… and we really hit it off… and then stopped because of my relationship. I was not intentionally flirting with someone random for attention. I don’t think T and I will go anywhere for a long while, because my love and intention is still very much with L… but down the road, if it become apparent we cannot fix this, that’s one attraction to be explored.

Home now. Feeling kind of like poop, as I expected. I know I looked really good, and confident and like I was having a wonderful time… but that took a lot out of me…and now the yucky part of the situation hits. Going to head to bed, because I have to work all day tomorrow… (my job has been pretty awful lately, because it is VERY slow, and all I do is stand there thinking about this situation…) HOPEFULLY my shipment will come on Monday and I can start actually reporting instead of just rambling about my life!

Hugs for getting through an emotionally tough evening! I hope things work out for you and L for the best, whatever that may be. :slight_smile:

Hey Spinach… thanks for reading! I am glad to know someone does!

I have been looking through some more journals… and I have some questions about HOW to apply things when I get them, and exactly what kind of cover scent is best.

I ordered EST in the 10mL bottle with 2mg in it… I read somewhere that people need perfumer’s alcohol and a cover scent and another bottle and all that to figure out how to dose and wear it? What if I don’t have all those things?

Also— What are the qualifications of a “cover scent”? does it have to be a quality parfum… or would a “body spray” or one of the lighter products work? I’ve never really used perfume, just the drug store body mists!

I am similar when it comes to big group socializing too. I can be very active during the first 20 minutes, then my endurance just get worn out…and finally find myself back in the cozy cocoon. Now, my philosophy is to do whatever you enjoy and don’t have to deliberately shape yourself into the stereotyped popular figure. Live happily and be proud of your life style can be a charm because guys may find you different from the normal chicks LOL :smiley: Hope everything will go well for you!

So, today I got myself a nice new cover scent, it is Tahitian Orchid! It is light and floral, but still smells warm, and I think the neroli scent will go well with it.

My fingers are super extra crossed that my package will FINALLY come tomorrow!

I also have a goal for the week in terms of L… and that to really allow him to realize that because HE LEFT ME, I am no longer his. He sent me a text today asking if I’d bring him some things to help him sleep tomorrow… and I did not even respond. I am sorry that you hurt yourself and now you have trouble sleeping at night… but I have trouble sleeping at night because YOU hurt me. So excuse me for not dropping everything to run and care for you right now.

It hurts my heart a bit to know he is in pain and of course I WANT to rush to his side because I do love him so much… but I need to stand my ground. He left me. He does not get me. He needs to miss me.

I am channeling ALL of my energy into myself, and the people that DO love me… making for DARN sure that he will see he has lost someone confident, beautiful, desired, and not afraid to take care of herself.

Yes, I do love you, but I love me more.

You don’t need any of these things unless you want to change the dosage from 2mcg to something else, or physically mix products! Otherwise, just spray from the bottles just as you got them, and you’re good to go. :wink:

Cover scents can be body mists or sprays, perfumes, essential oils or perfume oils, or even scented lotion! Whatever you like. You don’t absolutely need it if you like the scent of the AD products such as Neroli, unless you think spraying a cover scent on top will help with diffusion or longetivity. :slight_smile: So how light or strong it should be just depends on what you’re trying to cover. When I’m wearing the Cookie scent it is lovely and yummy all by itself, so much so that sometimes I want to wear a product just for the smell, and not the pheros! Haha. Meanwhile I prefer to cover Neroli scents with my own perfume because I think it’s a bit too masculine for my taste.

The only product that I can think of that really needs covering is EoW. That stuff is seriously pongy :open_mouth:, and although quite a few women do wear it ‘neat’, I personally need another scent there to make sure I don’t go paranoid and super duper self-conscious while I’m out and about. But EoW is really in a league of its own :smiley: so don’t worry about it for now.

Hope this helps! You are so very right, it’s not worth losing yourself for a guy, so stay strong and I really hope your mones get there soon! I’ve only ever needed DHL international shipping but if it’s really late again next time, you should give AD a call, and I’m sure they’ll let you know what’s going on. :slight_smile:

THEY CAME TODAY THEY CAME TODAY THEY CAAAAMMEEEE!!!

I am like a little kid! So excited! My IS/b and p83 were at my door when I got home from class, and tracking says my EST should get here with today’s mail as well.WOOOOO!

Saw L this morning. His knee is very bad and he is obviously in a LOT of pain. It really breaks my heart to see that. When you get to know someone so intimately, you can tell from every little thing they do… their breathing, mannerisms, etc. when something is hurt. Bleh I wish I could help him.

HOWEVER he was rather attentive today… he made a note that my nails had gotten long? I did try to “wear my own” copulins today as Tisha mentioned in another thread, but I don’t really think that was what had the effect? He did and said some other little things that made me aware that he was paying attention to me over the course of the class as well. Then after class he texted me, too. Just a funny, nonsense thought… like we used to. As it was a statement, and not a question, I didn’t respond. I cannot fall back into his arms the very first time he tries. He needs to realize I am gone and then actively WANT me again. EST is EXACTLY what I want right now.. I am SO excited for it.

Has anyone ever mixed IS/b and EST (and p83?) what were the results like? I think I’m going to search that now.

LOL Are you sure you’re a Scorpio? Your actions are so Cappy (I love it) and yes you shouldnt baby him since yall arent together anymore.

Really? I have never heard that before! how so? (the cappy part!)

I am very excited to test some mones on him on Wednesday and see his brain go berserk…

–Edit-- Holy WOW. When I said in my first post I was becoming more introverted the older I get… I think a good addendum would be that I am slowly transitioning from Scorpio to Capricorn! I definitely am a lot of the things I am reading listed for this! Good catch, Sarafina… you’re right on!

Well… I am SURE he is now beginning to realize he has lost me.

Last night he was clearly in a LOT of pain, and sent me a message: “Hey… can we please just talk for a little while? I’m going insane from my knee and I don’t know what to do except talk to you…”

I had been asleep, and my phone woke me… but I have an early morning today so I didn’t respond until just now. “Hey, sorry I was asleep I just got this. Pain meds will help.” Normally, I’d have gotten right up, out of bed, and gone all the way to him. It took everything I had not to go and do that anyway. This is so very sad… but I cannot be sure if he is missing me because he is wounded, or because he loves me. I can’t do this if as soon as he’s better he needs to go out and be single again.

This is so tough. I feel like he is going to come back to me soon, and as soon as the 'mones hit him that will really speed things up. I don’t know when and how best to take him back to make sure I am not setting myself up for heartbreak again. Help? I love him. I really, genuinely do. The thought of him in pain actually makes me cry. I don’t know how to best handle this :frowning:

Well SURPRISE,

Turns out last night he landed in the hospital because the pain got to be too much. They’re realizing now it’s not a torn ligament, but a flare up of his Rheumatoid Arthritis… He is on severe pain meds, and is obviously pretty miserable.

He asked me to drive him to class, and I got him some food and cared for him a bit as well. I am so torn now because he genuinely needs help, and there’s not really anyone else able to take care of him. I am doing my best to keep my own life to myself… be there when he really needs something, but stay on the removed side, not there to socialize or baby him, but to bring him a bag lunch and drive him places.

HOWEVER… Does this completely change the pheromone game? Will the pain meds affect his reactions? Where do I go from here? I know the prospect of actually getting physical is not likely at the moment… but evoking the DESIRE would still be good… albeit very difficult through all the pain… Should I carry through my plan of EST, Is/b and p83 as I had intended to tomorrow, or should I look into using other things? HELP!

Ok, I am OBSESSED and I haven’t even tried them yet!

Just used my gift certificate for some Instant Honesty. I don’t think I’ll use it for awhile until we get a better handle on things and I am fully convinced he does want to be with me again… but with as long as it took the last to ship, I’d rather just order it and have it on hand.

He’s only getting better from here in terms of health, and I think I am going to go ahead and use Is/b and EST tomorrow… Just to emphasize the love and attraction parts of me caring for him. I will save p83 for awhile, until he’s doing better, and we’re in a more private context.

I am SO very excited to try them out, not only for him, but for all the other reactions as well! I am sure I will have a BIG report tomorrow! :slight_smile:

WOOOWWW.

My Baptism

September 19, 2012.

Used: EST, 8ish drops? not sure, applying them was kind of difficult the first time- split between my elbow pit/forearm, neck under my jaw, and 1 on cleavage, and Is/b - 2 (plus the first half spray) on my hair and chest, misted 1 spray of tahitian orchid cover and walked through it.

Self effects: I realized a few hours in that I was feeling pretty vulnerable… likely a result of the LARGE amount of EST so close to my face… The smell of the instant sexy goes SO WELL with my orchid, and is actually really great on its own, too. I think I definitely smelled yummy. I didn’t feel super sexy or confident, but I have a cold sore (ew. my genetic curse…) and was EXHAUSTED, and think I may be about to get my period? So I am sure there were more odds against than the effect could have handled.

Effects on L: Today I picked him up, drove him to get his prescription, then we got some food quickly, and went to class. Not sure if it was the pain meds enhancing it, but he was very chatty and attentive to me. My mom got me some flowers on Monday when she came up,(roses are my absolute favorite) so I took a picture and set it as the background on my phone, and he asked who I got them from while we were in class… I kind of made eye contact with him, then looked away without answering. That got him I think. Then he was super reminiscent about when we went to a formal last year, and lots of other stuff… He texted me a little bit throughout the day, too, and got excited to send me a link to a silly harry potter necklace tonight? He didn’t seem to be acting oddly to anyone else because of his meds, but was in much better spirits, and said the sweetest thank you when we left to our separate classes… just tone of voice wise. I KNOW that he does care and miss me. I just need to amplify it, and take care to continue sending ROMANTIC vibes, and not fall into friend zone. We will be fine in time.

Effects on others: I was feeling the EST too much I think, so around 11am, I gave it one more spray of Is/b right under my neck. My Chemistry professor has always kind of let his eyes linger on me… but today it was INTENSE. He also made the most hilarious misspeak, also- We were discussing a test coming up, and I said I had practice during part of the time… He stammered on his words a bit, and it was sort of like “well… you can just.. we.. later we can just do it in my office.” I just kept eye contact, and he fumbled like you would not believe. After class I was chatting with my roommate, who comes into the same room the next hour, and he stopped to be social with us? Oh my, Is/b… you could get me into some trouble!! (He is very young… looks to be 26 or 28 maybe? It is a freshman class, and I am the only senior, nearly 22.) I didn’t notice much in the hallways as far as looks from people, but I did have a few small things in class. A girl was very friendly to me and started a conversation from a sort of far distance… and a boy in my class I’d never noticed before was definitely staring at me. My lab partner was chatty as well… nothing sexual, but very friendly and open, whereas in weeks past he has been a little more reserved.

–oh also! The boy from the party that had given me attention… (I will call him T. I am sure he’ll show up more in my recordings…) He and I had a nice flirty little conversation today as well… don’t know if that’s related… but he was very nice to me, and told me how smart I was, etc. He was a little awkward, but adorably smiley type of things.

At my afternoon practice, I definitely got a whiff of the neroli when I started to sweat. It was pretty nice there.

Tomorrow I will not use anything, as I have morning practice, then in the afternoon again, and I do not see anyone that matters to me… so it’d be a waste of product…

But FRIDAY, I will use LESS EST, and away from my face. L sits to my left in class… what application points could be best for that? Keep in mind, they are drops, not sprays… so I can’t just mist it over myself or do it in my hair… I will keep doing Is/b.. I don’t want EST alone around L because I do not want to risk going friendzone with him.

ALSO… I ordered EoW… so that, and IH are on the way, plus my p83 is still stashed! All in all was a GREAT first day. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

This is very nice report! Love your detailed observations! I ordered EST too, look forward to using it! :slight_smile:

Awesome! Keep it up :slight_smile: