pheromone fried rice

no bitching here, but it does concern the topic of being left behind. i had an interesting experience yesterday that leads me to conclude this issue.

we all had a rough week in class and luckily there was a little break thursday night to rest. we have work due sunday night and monday so there won’t be much rest/playtime over the weekend. well, i decide to go celebrate, and of course my buddy is down to go too.

on tuesday of this week i brought it up to the other people and they were excited. it gave them motivation to get through wed and thurs. as the week went on, they lost interest and dropped out one by one. SEG was in up until the last moments when she found out that everyone had dropped, and then she dropped too. i had a great time out with my buddy, but it would’ve been better to get more people out.

of course, you’ll always have your bullshit excuses. one guy said he wanted to be awake for our friday morning class because the lecture material was going to be hard. we (as a group) normally don’t go to the friday morning lecture because we can read the slides online, and this guy in particular doesn’t have a good attendance record in any of his classes. on our way home last night, i told my buddy that no matter how hungover or tired i was the next morning (this morning), i was going to get up and see if that kid went to class. and i did. dragged my butt out of bed and sat through a lecture of truly hard material, and no sign of that kid at all. i called his bluff and won.

as soon as i heard that SEG dropped i told my buddy about the other people leaving me behind as they went to go party (remember, he was out of town when this happened). he agreed that it was a pretty nasty thing to do. i joked around saying they were probably all gathered at one person’s house already partying without us, and as the night went on we shot the breeze with other reasons like they’re scared to party with us or they know that SEG likes us more, so they’re trying to make it easier on them.

my conclusion to all this is that you have to be mindful of groupthink or slippery slope. this is basically where one person does something, then a second person does the same thing because the first person did it, and so on. in my case, it was dropping out of the party i planned for thursday night. it doesn’t matter who, but one person always is the leader.

this can be tied in to the other people leaving me behind. perhaps truly, some way some how, honest to goodness, SEG really did try to send me a text and accidentally saved it. in the midst of partying she could say “well, i texted him and he’s not responding.” my other “buddy,” the one that i called, could say “well, i was going to call him back, but since he’s not responding to texts, maybe i’ll just keep partying.” knowing this, the other guys that i don’t know too well might say “well, i should remind SEG or this guy to find jayarea and get him out here, but since they don’t seem to be into it, i’ll just keep partying.”

it’s not entirely controllable, but you want to watch out for it.

the second part of my conclusion is to not sell yourself short, or be a doormat. earlier in the semester the other guys falsely associated me with my “hardass” buddy (who is really just shy and introverted) because i hang out with him a lot. i didn’t sell myself short, but their assumptions sold my image short. i corrected this by inviting a few of them over and showing them a great time. they couldn’t stop talking about it for days. with that said, it’s not good to be a doormat either. i’ve never partied at anyone else’s house, and i don’t even think they host. all the parties have been at my place with my resources. this is what i did at my other school and i don’t mind because people actually show up, and in some form or another they contribute towards the resources (alcohol, supplies, etc). i’ve hosted gratuitously so far with barely a thanks, and left behind/denied twice, so now it’s getting to the point where people are walking on me, and i can’t have that.

fool me once…

Just remind them that you’re the reason they have a great time at a party, don’t get too upset over it.

motherboard on my main computer went out so i have been and will be away for a while until i can get that fixed. had a good night last weekend with a great mix, read about it here: effects of pheros on social dynamics (mx336, mx297, mx116)

keep on trucking everybody.

2s mx200 hair

2 tests on 2 days

day 1:
i haven’t touched this bottle in a while so everything must have gone stagnant. when i sprayed it, the scent almost made my head hurt. it wasn’t game, because i love game, but rather i think it was more alcohol-y. something just didn’t sit right with me, and it didn’t smell like the old mx200 game scent i was used to. (on my 2nd test, i forgot to shake the bottle and it still smelled “stagnant”, though picking it up kinda swirled things around)

it was just me and my buddy in class. things were very social and upbeat. lots of jokes and nice socializing. it was like a controlled spaceland. goofy and fun but not entirely silly. good for use with a girl as an icebreaker, for example.

things took a turn for the worst when we received our exams back. everyone in the class did poorly, worse than the first time, so a black cloud was cast over everyone. decent socializing after class but everyone was so bummed about grades that we all just wanted to go home.

day 2:
i managed to get a class of 20 people in tears laughing. poised and collected humor since i’m better with the deadpan, and the class ate it up. after class i had a meeting with my team and they loved the humor too. we added a new team member who started late and during our meeting, i noticed she started flirting lightly with one of the other guys. i had never seen this before even though the other guys would sometimes flirt with her. mx200 making her a little antsy?

good stuff, just gotta fix that smell issue. hopefully shaking the bottle will do it.

Sounds like a fun time! It also sounds like my experiences with the Game scent which was why I didn’t like it. I hope you get it shaken up so it smells better but hey, as long as it works! :slight_smile:

yes i have some MX150 from ages ago that still works charms for me

cough :slight_smile:

just a few short term phero goals for me:

  • a314. haven’t touched it for a while, forgot about it, used it the last two days and felt amazing. can’t forget about this stuff.
  • post more / test more. i’ve gotten a good grasp on managing my time now so i should be able to get some more controlled testing in.
  • find new testers. easier said than done, i know, but i’ll try. i just want to go out and talk to random people, try to get away from the repetitive testing with my friends.

I’m down to whatever is in the bottom of my A314 bottle. I thought I was gonna cry.

I know what you mean about finding new people to test on. Steve has the right idea by testing in coffee shops. I have a few that I’ve started hitting and they are fun because you get a steady flow of people even if they are sittting and reading you can watch the reactions. :slight_smile:

i’ve always wondered about coffee shop/bookstore testing. is it more of an observational testing of watching responses or a confrontational testing with making conversation?

i just think it would be weird to plop down next to somebody and start talking in that type of situation.

In my experience, it is both. You can sit and watch people’s reactions to you but honestly, it won’t be long before they generally start interacting wih you. I’ve gone several times and been sitting and pretending to read and out of the blue some random stranger (usually female but that is the mixes I tend to wear) starts chatting with me. It is actually a fantastic way to combat social anxiety because there is no pressure. You can talk or you can hide in a book. Works very well. :slight_smile:

1s p78 @ 12.5 mcg

used it before an exam. good focus again, especially with the open note format. it gives me a sugar pill effect too as i think i’m answering all the questions right, but last time i thought the same thing and got a lot of those questions wrong.

i think there’s a drive factor here. something makes me want to get my work done. in tests, it makes me want to look everything up. it’s not important whether it’s right or wrong (hopefully right) but what does matter is that i gave a solid effort on every question.

also, grapefruit scent wakes me up in the mornings.

1d a314

again, flustering during a team meeting. we have a few people out sick so it was just me and the guy and girl who like each other. i was completely spaced out during the meeting (checking on the status of the server crash here) so i did not participate much. i expected that since they like each other, the other people would get along and our meeting would progress smoothly.

not the case. lots of bantering back and forth. nobody was particularly right or wrong either. seemed like bantering just for the sake of bantering. if nothing stopped them, they could banter all day. however, our stomachs were growling so we rushed the end of the meeting.

in an unrelated note, hopefully the store can get back in shape again.

2s p78 @ 25 mcg

think i’m starting to get on a p78 kick here. 2s really hit the spot. luckily i was able to test all aspects today too, without even trying.

sexual: i was standing around talking with some friends when SEG came by. her new crush/unofficial bf is friends with one of the guys i was talking to so technically they came by together. he went over to high five his friend and she came to stand by me. we expanded our circle to accompany them. within seconds i noticed pupil dilation and basic ioi signals. strong signals too, like she had for my buddy a long time ago. the signals weren’t really directed to anyone in particular; i think she was just sending them to release some sexual tension. if she and her new man went home together tonight, i believe he’s in for a treat.

social/status: very good socializing. in my group of 5-6 guys, there were maybe 3-4 conversations going on between all of us and we just flowed through them all. nonstop chatter and good uplifted vibes all around. nothing too much in terms of “respect” status but i was viewed as the conversation headmaster so that in essence is a form of status. i noticed one guy who usually doesn’t talk much spoke up more today.

self effects: much better than at 1s, and that’s saying a lot. smooth vibes, graceful swagger. makes me really want to test this with sarah. i think this by itself could lead to some fun (actually “fun” like laughing and stuff) times, and combined with a sexual phero it could lead to some fun times in bed. grapefruit really puts the finishing touch on things too. i don’t think i would get the same effect with akuto or game scent on this one. maaaaybe neroli. the lightness of the scent lends to the effect.

Very cool! :slight_smile:

I love reading how everyone gets hooked on one putative or mx for a while. :cool:

it’s rather interesting… i found a box that holds my pheros nicely in a groups of 8, so from left to right i have them organized into instants and then by number. i figured a good way to test is to just run down my box and make sure i don’t miss a number. this is good for those “out there” pheros like p81 and p98 that i might otherwise overlook. right now i’m in the 7X’s, might detour back to the instants to test new ammo coming in, then p81 is on deck.

(this was typed at 9p on the day of testing, posted at 9a the following morning)
good finishing day for p78

2s p78 @ 25 mcg
1d a314

intense ioi from random girls around me in the library. the library here is fairly stout in terms of sq ft but spans a few levels. i was the “guy looking for an open seat.” i’d find a spot, sit down, smile at anyone around me, and start chugging away at my laptop. after about 20 minutes, make one more probe into the environment for ioi and then head to another level.

hair play, smiles, leg shifts/crosses, one girl even went from leaning back in her chair to sitting forward and leaning down a bit. max distance was 2 tables away, prob 10-12 feet or so.

in close quarters testing with my group, there was lots of socializing and laughing, and at one point we just blew up in laughter and completely dropped what we were doing.

dj has said p96 seems to work well around 60 mcg for caucasians. sarah just decided to make a surprise trip to visit next week so i may try one more test with her to see if this new dosage works (old dosage was 50 mcg). negative reactions so far, to the point where i don’t want to use it anymore, but with other people i’ve gotten such good results that i want to see those results with her.

epic party mix

2d a314
5s spaceland
1s mx301
1s mx302
.5s p96 @ ~12.5 mcg
.5s ammo
.5s mx292
.5s p78 @ ~6.25 mcg

3 bars.

me: super swagger. 2 of the bars were new to me so i decided to drive and skip the whole bus/cab thing, picked up my buddy on the way. 2d a314 really drove it home. i was in control while getting drinks, dancing, and socializing. the ammo and mx292 were mainly for the game scent because that always hypes me up. since i wasn’t drinking, i was able to stay more in control of myself and really fine-tune my actions to the situation.

friends: decent respect, lots of socializing. perfect mix. the reason we went to some new bars was because one of the db guys invited us there. i originally figured i should keep it smooth with a314 and mx292 and not let his actions affect me too much (loud yelling, crude dancing with girls, etc) but upon actually hanging out with him, i realized he either isn’t that bad or toned things down, so i shifted my vibe over to socializing.

bar 1: the only one familiar to me. passing ioi, which i think is mainly from me looking cleaned up and fresh for the night. the real action came from all the kino. we came from outside straight into a line for drinks. i still had my coat on and was waiting in a heavy traffic area. many girls who came by touched me in some way or other, and one girl even slid her hand under my coat to grab my waist as she passed.

this bar was just a meeting place so everyone could head over to bar #2 together, thus we didn’t really get too crazy on the dance floor. slightly intense “come here” eyes from one girl; couldn’t follow up on it. the dj made heavy use of the fog machine so after a while it just got obnoxious, and luckily we were headed out anyway.

bar 2: interesting. my buddy is waiting in line for drinks and i’m standing by to help him carry them. the female bartender is chatting with some guy and drinking her personal drink, apparently not caring that people are waiting in line. as she chats with him, she keeps looking at me and smiling. i smile back of course, but i think it’s weird that she smiles at a person waiting in line (even though i technically wasn’t) and doesn’t ask to serve. finally she notices my buddy and gets his order. then she looks at me and says “are you with him?” i nod and smile, and she throws back the brightest and biggest smile ever. ok… drinks come back and still she smiles at me. do i know this girl from somewhere? i don’t think so. my buddy pays and while giving him his change, she looks at me the entire time and smiles. she heads to the other end of the bar to grab a bottle and comes back roughly to where she was before, and we take our drinks and leave. for kicks i look back. her eyes meet mine and yep, there’s another smile.

i was completely out of range and exposure for pheros. never seen this girl before, never ordered from her before, wasn’t ordering from her. she was either being a really friendly bartender, mistook me for a bigshot customer she has (highly doubt it), or was just exhibiting genuine attraction and ioi. i’m still very curious as to what happened, but it put me in a good mood for the rest of the night. i rode this wave of euphoria all night.

not too much action on the dancefloor. one of the db guys started acting up so girls weren’t really a fan of that. locked eyes with a few girls but they were already repulsed by the db guy, so we just exchanged knowing smiles. i might’ve had one chance to dance with a girl who was throwing glances my way but one of our drunk guys (no relation to db guys) got a little sloppy and was literally bouncing off people on the dancefloor. the girl quickly moved away. i figured we had exhausted our resources by then – either we got lumped into the “drunk guys” or “db guys” category – so it was time to move on.

bar 3: one of the nicer bars out here. decent cover, fair drink prices… i gotta figure out how the buses run to and from it and i think you’ll read many more stories from this place. we get in and the drunk guy goes to order drinks by the front door bar. i head straight for the restroom. this place is a bar/club so it has private party tables around the outer walls. noticed a few glances from guys and girls as i walked to the restroom, again probably because i was looking sharp. took some time getting used to the layout of the place. there’s a small plateau leading to the dance floor that consists of 2 stairs up and 2 stairs down, and i made a mental note to not miss those either tonight while i’m sober (and they’re hard to see even when you are sober) or when i come back and i’m not sober.

a few hits that i’ll shotgun…

hit 1: the db guy knew a girl here, and he introduced her to everyone. she was shorter so she had a routine of shaking hands and leaning up to trade names in each person’s ear. at my turn she went straight for my lips. luckily i was sober and caught this. i repositioned my head in time and her lips hit somewhere by my ear, which was where they needed to be anyway for me to hear her. we traded names, all while holding hands, and then before she left, she gave my hand a squeeze.

hit 2: two girls and one dopey guy who were just in their own little world all night. my buddy decides to be funny and dance into the guy. the girls laugh at this. the guy has no idea what to do. one girl dances her way into my buddy so i grab the other girl. decent dancing. the girl dancing with my buddy had been giving me looks all night and i think she wanted to dance with me, but i never made it over to her side.

random hits: the short girl danced with me for a while. some random girl completely backed up into me, turned around and realized she didn’t know me, and danced with me anyway. lots of “bump and hold” action from girls on the floor.

greatest hit of the night: and it wasn’t even for me. we’re dancing and all night i see this girl looking towards me and my buddy giving us smiles. we’d be dancing with her in a heartbeat if it wasn’t for the guy she was with. very cute girl. it got to the point where i thought “ok, i can’t let two girls smile at me tonight and not know what happened.” i get a little closer to this girl and try to make out her intentions as best i could through the flashing lights. she was smiling at me and sort of gave me a wink. game on.

i don’t know if she was interested in me or my buddy, or both, but since i have a gf, i sent my buddy in. he was afraid that the guy was her bf. i let him know what was up so he started doing this goofy dance in her direction. the girl laughed at this and the guy immediately spun themselves around. the girl actually whipped her head back around to keep watching my buddy, all while smiling and laughing. game on. my buddy knew this one was pretty much in the bag so he turned up his confidence a little. he went over to that dopey guy from before and brought him into the fray by getting him to dance with the girl while he danced on the other side, and the “bf” created the last part of a dude triangle. the girl absolutely loved this and i think it was the last straw for the “bf.” certainly game on.

he left and the girl was now dancing by herself. my buddy was 99.9% ready to go now but still needed a little confirmation that the guy wasn’t going to come back and start something. one of the girl’s friends caught my buddy’s eyes, gave him a thumbs up, and motioned her head toward the girl. he danced over to her, they lock arms, and the rest is a phone number in my buddy’s phone, the first one he’s gotten since i’ve known him. game done.

conclusion: it started with a smile. it ended with a smile. smile, and good things happen. :smiley:

Great report! What a night! :smiley: