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a314 r24 p90e: “cool guy” vibe. i use this when i need to be the center of attention and grab everyone’s focus. i just want to “do things” while wearing this and by extension, it helps me get over fear of being in front of a lot of people so i can maintain composure and be a leader.

a314 r25 sbe: still don’t really know what’s so social about this, but it seems to work. it’s like a lighter version of a314. still a leader vibe but also approachable.

sorry for the quick reports; i’m so backlogged i just gotta post something and perhaps start over with collecting reports.

broke up with sarah a few days ago. she did not take it well at all. she knows a dirty secret about me and i’m hoping she doesn’t air it.

bah, breakups are rough.

Sorry to hear that Jay. Break ups suck. I hope things get better for you.

i am sorry to hear that as well dude, try not to let it get the best of you

thanks guys. i know we don’t technically “know” each other but it’s nice to be able to come here and post my thoughts (on anything) and get feedback.

first, some relationship fallacies that i’m experiencing now. maybe someone can shed some light. don’t worry, phero and frag related comments follow.

  • i’m still in the “one girl” track: after i broke up, i started flirting with people around me. one girl in particular flirted back a little bit harder than the rest and i got stuck on her. i took the long way around to walk past her cube, i made time to hang out with her, etc. however, she probably doesn’t have the same feelings for me. she’s just enjoying flirting and may flirt with other guys as well. i’m so used to the “only being with one girl” thing that i can’t get over flirting with her (the new girl) to go flirt with other people.

  • moving on: nowadays with facebook and other social networks where everyone is tied in, it’s hard. i remember back with my first few gfs, i deleted their number and that was the last i ever saw of them. sarah and i remain “friends” on facebook and while we don’t necessarily talk to each other, we can see mutual friends and pictures. she sent me an email the first time i got tagged in a picture standing relatively close to another girl, asking if i was already moving on (to the next relationship, not moving on past this breakup). i said no; it was just an innocent picture. i know the first i see her with another guy i’ll probably think of similar things too. this i think is the hardest part.

  • she mailed me everything of mine that she had because she didn’t want it anymore. i still have her stuff… part of completing the moving on process is to get rid of it. just can’t do it quite yet.

  • she knows a dirty secret about me but i think only sent it to me in anger; i don’t think she’ll air it. but i do wonder what she will “air,” not in the malicious sense but from just talking to her friends. i think i’m overthinking this.

anywho, it’s a slow and long process but i’m on my way.

phero stuff:

  • have an abundance of asian coworkers now and mx200 is seeing a lot of action. 1s of that and 1s of ishine and i’m good to go in the majority of my situations.
  • it might’ve been a personal hormone change or something, but i think my -none tolerance has gone up. there’s a few bars around me that are known to be gathering grounds for the yuppie late 20’s / early 30’s crowd and i always -none it up when i go there. even in the summer heat i don’t sweat as much as i used to and i notice some looks from older women. in my early days of -none use i would have to tone it down to make sure i didn’t sweat much and also adjust the amount for younger girls.
  • now that i’m single, i can go back and visit some of the attraction pheros that have been neglected recently. i organized my phero collection a few days ago and saw some names (mx292, for example) that might serve me well.

fragrance stuff:

  • creed aventus is coming out soon and that will be my first major creed purchase. i love the scent enough to justify the price. it also fits “me” and the image i’m projecting.
  • on the creed note, i ordered a sample of creed erolfa. that’s also a good scent and may warrant a 1oz purchase depending on budget.
  • i haven’t banned game scent from my collection but i have given up on finding a replacement and using it as my go-to scent. on a lesser scale, it is tied into memories of sarah so probably the less i use it, the quicker i can move on. mostly it doesn’t fit my sig anymore.

Good to hear your experiences. :slight_smile:

Hi Jay. I’m a newbie and just placed my first order today. I’m particularly interested in your thread because I’m also Asian and am looking to you for advice on how it would work on me. Do I have to apply more than other people would? I’m a naturally happy, social, and at times very aggressive, and I’ve ordered TUTH and IS. Have you done any trials with just instant shine before? I would like to know a lot about your experiences, so I will keep on reading. Look forward to hearing from you soon.

  • Donnie

hi donnie, thanks for stopping by my journal. i’ve made a lot of mistakes and learned a lot so you’ll be caught up once you read through all of it. also do a search for “pseudojournal” in the main forum to see my side journal on individual products.

are you looking to attract other asians? if so, ishine is your best friend. asians, for the most part, respond very well to the socials such as ishine. you can use that as your base in order to give off that “shiny” feel-good vibe, and see where that takes you.

the most important thing to keep in mind is to find your sweet spot. before receiving your order, keep a journal of how people react to you now (without pheros), how you act, any advances you make that are accepted/rejected, etc. then, when you get your products, use them one at a time and start with 1 spray. log your results, then move on to 2 sprays the next day. repeat until you notice diminishing or negative effects. then repeat this process for your other products.

this seems tedious but it will save you money in the long run and get you better results. it is also important since you are using tuth. tuth is a strong product and the majority of users only need 1-2 sprays. you’ll definitely want to find your sweet spot for this not only in terms of results but also to judge your own tolerance to a high -none content.

regarding your question, yes i have done tests with just ishine before. it works very well on a personal level because i feel upbeat and this carries over to the people around me. if you are trying to attract a certain girl, it may give off a “hey, there’s something new about that donnie guy” vibe that you can use to get your foot in the door with her.

cool, thanks for your input. it’s good to know that ishine works well on asian women, i don’t have a preference when it comes to race but seeing as i am dating an asian it only makes sense, i don’t think i’ll be needing the TUTH, no idea why i bought it, just seemed interesting to me haha. i was thinking about trying it at school (TUTH) but that seems like it would only end in disaster. maybe during lunches. anyways, impressive journal, and if theres anything you feel like i should know, dont hesitate to tell me.

  • Donnie

All I can say is WOW…I have spent ??? hours looking at your posts and this is great reads. I like the progression from the very beginning with the basic items all us noobs buy. And I think I will start a early journal also. So many journals start out with more advanced products and it is great the way you have done yours.

I only hope I have half the success you have, my wife is half Korean and found some of your experiences to be helpful as in the effects of IS or IH on asian women. Cant wait to start my tests.

Keep up the good work, cant wait to read more of your adventures.

thank you, i’m glad my journal has kept your attention. you’ll be happy to know that i’m getting back into it. :open_mouth:

i had a rough falling out with sarah after we broke up, probably the worst of all of my relationships. we had a decent friend phase going but she has a bad habit of drunk dialing and texting. of course, when she drinks, she would contact me and all her true anger would come out. the next day she would ask me what we talked about and then my true anger would come out, and this cycle didn’t really help us much. eventually we decided that if we can’t be lovers, and can’t be friends, let’s just not be anything at all. i’m a bit sad, as she is a good person, but i’m old enough to know that in life and love and other things, you sometimes just can’t force something.

during this time i wandered away from PT and my journal, occasionally stopping by to check in and help new guys like shigiddy. after doing this a few times i realized that i missed what kept me here for so long - the camaraderie. i remember days where i wore a bomb mix and had so many reports that i had to keep notes in my phone or on a homework assignment, then run to my computer to post and chat about it.

i often talk about rediscovering yourself/things and starting new chapters in your life. my last chapter started with me understanding pheros and incorporating them into my life and relationship. this chapter had a fairly messing ending with ink all over the page and some tears in the paper, but it’s finally closed. i got over my breakup funk, surrounded myself with good friends and people, and went back to my roots: me, pheros, and the PT community. it’s time to begin a new chapter. :smiley:

i see that smartmones has also begun a new chapter that includes a new member to the team. apparently lots of things are being restocked too. i’m glad to see that even in down times, growth is abundant.

for all you new guys, welcome, and i hope you find a little home on the web like i did. for all the old guys still here, let’s get back to the good times!

So sorry to hear about you and Sarah :frowning:.

I’m currently going through some interesting times myself. Had a three year relationship with someone I always considered close and like a sister virtually end overnight. We would talk and laugh for hours at a time and then like out of the blue she became someone completely different from what I knew her as. Well more likely the blinders were lifted and I started to experience the true nature of this person, the real ugliness and deception that came out, the diabolical evil that permeates this persons existence.

While only a friend, the impact on my life is great and really has me stressed. I’m completely at a loss about how all this person who runs around smiling and telling everyone how she is doing such great deeds for humanity is secretly causing people such harm by her actions. It’s shocking how I really didn’t know this person. Surprisingly enough when I met her, it was my dad who actually liked her and told me she was OK in his eyes. LOL, first time that I ever remember my dad being so deceived by someone but she definitely has that going for her.

Anyway I found out some horrible things and the best thing to do, you’re right, is not to be anything, or so I thought. Unfortunately its quickly becoming apparent this person is doing everything to make my life miserable, but failing miserably at it :smiley:. She has passed from leaving the friend stage to the nothing stage to sworn enemy.

I’m saddened that you were not able to at least end as friends, but glad you had the foresight to end it. Better to end things before they spiral out of control.

Sorry to hear that for both of you. I know where you guys are coming from.

I just had a falling out with someone I was close to for a few years and just recently got very close to. It sucks, but all we can do is move on, learn from our mistakes, and realize that we will find someone more well suited for us. Like you said, time to start a new chapter! :slight_smile: and this place helps, makes me realize that I am not the only one who deals with stupid crap like this.

Exactly! I was bummed about it for a while and then while hitting the treadmill listening to some old school dramarama I just was like SNAP and realized hey I’m better than this.

I really kind of found out by accident. As you might know I started a charity and she was someone we were super interested in as a spokesperson. Well we did a background check and we discovered this trail of complete utter deceit and so many peoples lives shattered. It was so super sad really to be mesmerized by someones charm and then to see the real ugliness of their soul. When we questioned her about some of the things she had been implicated in, not in an accusatory way at all, but as a learning expedition to seek the truth and understanding it all came out. Talk about SHOCK!

My intentions are to help others and its why I work with androtics. It’s why I volunteer and even started my own charity. There is already to much hurt and pain in this world to add to it. “Be happy, especially that.” -Shakira

good vibes for and from everyone. life can be difficult… just gotta pick ourselves up and go at it again.

back at the game
1d a314 r25 sbe split ears
2s mx203 neck
2s p126 @ 15 mcg neck
cover: creed aventus, neck

the short version
picked this mix to hit on caucasian girls, did well, ended up doing even better with asian girls.

the long version
one of the many “first” big clubbing nights in the fall semester when schools are starting up and students are filling in. we were scheduled to visit two clubs and the previous times i have been at both, they were filled with caucasian girls. i layered the mix accordingly.

at the first club: we didn’t stay here long. it was only a short trip to pick up some more friends, stay for a drink, and then go over together to the second club. got glances from two girls, returned with a smile since i knew we weren’t staying long enough to try anything.

at the second club: way more crowded so body heat was a factor. probably 30 minutes in i was all clouded up.

hit 1: status from guys. a314 on the ears is my favorite spot since people have to lean in to catch names, and it’ll hit them right there.

hit 2: “who is this guy?” vibe (in a good way) from girls in the new group. my group met up with another group and that’s how i got status hits from guys. when meeting girls, they got this feeling like “ok, this mysterious guy just walked into the party and something is cool about him.” you can tell when you’re shaking hands. a normal meeting gets a normal handshake. a flirty meeting pretty much swaps the handshake for a hug. a “who is this guy, i want to get to know him” meeting gets a handshake where the girl’s hand is kinda folded over yours, as if she was picking up your hand. hard to put in words, but you’ll know it when you get it.

hit 3: i had locked eyes with a bunch of girls around the room all night but one group in particular stood out - all asian, all cute. i met eyes with one of the girls in the group and she smiled, and i smiled, and i started walking over toward their group. immediately she nudges her friends and they all start fixing their hair and smoothing their dresses. game time, i guess. :slight_smile: the vibe must’ve been just right because it was the easiest pickup ever, and it didn’t come off as cheesy. when i got to her group, she asked me “why do you keep looking over here?” and winked. not missing a beat, i said “because you girls look absolutely killer in your dresses. why don’t you come hang out with me and my group?” and that was that. they walked over and partied with us.

so much for mixing for white girls, right? :roll_eyes:

back to hit 1: i met everyone about 45 minutes ago. then i leave for 2 minutes. then i come back with 8 (i think? there were a lot of them) sexy asian women, all dressed to kill, all ready to party. i could see the looks in their eyes: they were trying to wrap their minds around this and thinking “wow, we just met this guy a few minutes ago and now he’s bringing hot girls into our group?” status all the way.

back to hit 2: bringing these girls back actually worked out negatively for the existing girls, but overall it was a huge positive for me and my friends. the girls that were there before immediately became jealous of the new girls. it’s not my position to judge or anything, but i think it was because all the guys knew the girls so they were already in the dreaded “friend zone” and there weren’t many sparks, then all of a sudden new girls show up and the guys are flirting with them and basically ignoring the other girls, and they just got bitter.

while i was talking to some of the new girls, i got confronted by two of the “bitter girls.” they asked (me) who the new girls were. i could tell they were pissed off but i answered as if they were asking a serious question, so i said “well, this is girl A and girl B and girl C…” they cut me off and asked “why are they here in our group?” i took this opportunity to sort of diffuse the situation since now i could see that the new girls were feeling uncomfortable (sucks to show up to a group of people and get asked why you’re there). i answered (falsely) “i knew these girls from a class we all took a long time ago, and we haven’t seen each other in years; i figured we could all share a fun friday night together.” the bitter girls muttered something and walked away. to be honest, i didn’t see them around much after that, so maybe they just left the club.

one of my biggest faults as described in a post a few back is that i consider dating to be “locking myself in to one girl for a long period of time,” which actually isn’t true. dating is getting to know different people, seeing what works, what doesn’t work, etc. the “old me” would’ve met the existing girls in the group, felt their “who is this guy?” handshake, and stayed and tried to dig deeper into that all night. all my eggs in one basket, and if they flake or don’t like me, there go my eggs. the “new me,” as you might call it, says no, let’s go meet other people, especially those cute girls who have been looking your way all night. so i did, and it worked out well. now my eggs aren’t in one basket so considering i lost some throughout the night, i still came out on top. it’s all about meeting people.

hit 4: one of the girls in the group, actually the same one who i approached originally, took a strong liking to me. soon it became obvious and while the other girls were still flirty towards me, they gave her some space to work. we hit it off pretty well. i was staying sober to drive and she was drinking “moderately” as in not getting raging drunk, so i enjoyed our flirt session because i know it wasn’t some alcohol-fueled sloppy grope and mumble words thing. straight, honest, genuine flirting. good to experience that again.

hit 5, kind of: my roommate, the same one i’ve had for a while, was there too. he’s pretty good at borrowing my sig and rocking it. that’s default behavior but i mention it this time because he went to work pretty fast. usually he needs some time to warm up and get drunk or whatever before he really starts flirting. last night he was talking to the girls and introducing himself before i even got their names. good for him.

back to hit 4: it was super warm in the club. every time i left and came back to the group of girls, i would have increased body heat and thus an increased cloud. not surprisingly, every time i came back, my girl would have increased kino and sniffing. we had relatively low kino while flirting. the first time i left and came back, she put her arm around my waist and took a deep breath. the second time, she wrapped her arm around my shoulder and put her face in my neck, again with a deep breath. the third time she boobed me. i think that’s when we traded numbers. :stuck_out_tongue:

conclusion
we got the club at 11 or so and before we knew it, it was closing time. numbers traded, we walked the girls to their ride, and headed home. the whole time on the way home my roommate kept commenting on how he’s never really seen this side of me before (this is first time i’ve been single around him). i agreed. it feels good to get back into flirting (and not having to watch yourself before you cross the line into cheating). a lot of people have told me that i’m young and now is the time to flirt and feel out what’s right and wrong. i think i will do just that.

Hey, very cool!

Now really is the time to do it. Great stuff man.

The more social you are, the better, the more its going to just push you to the top. Being single, armed with the right attitude (and mones) works out so well. It seems to me when I was reading your Journal that it could have been your body language that was attracting them, kind of you having social proof already. I’ve never personally tried MX203, but sounds like it was a heck of a lot more you than the mones.

i foresee a lot of “very cool” in my future. :smiley:

body language was a huge factor, both mentally and physically. when i had a gf, i tried to be open when meeting people but physically i had lines i couldn’t cross and mentally, i was very reserved. now that i’m single, even just the mental block being lifted is a huge step forward. i don’t have to constantly think about “if i do this, will [my gf] get mad? what about this?” etc. this frees up my mind to pursue different topics to discuss with the girl, take the conversation deeper, etc.

physically, it’s also a new world. if i was in the same situation a year ago, those handshakes i described in the report would’ve just been regular handshakes. last night, i noticed the subtle details: her hand folded around mine, holding on for just a bit longer than a normal handshake, the pressure of her grip, the feel of her skin. body language isn’t just a routine anymore, it’s a whole experience.

another big factor is what i would call preselection. normally in hit-or-miss social situations, one or both of the parties involved aren’t really sure of it; e.g. guy approaches random girl to try to chat her up. i had met eyes with the girl i approached many times before walking over, i knew i wanted to talk to her, she knew i was coming for her… it all just kinda worked out. it turned the situation from “hey, i think you’re cute; let me try to woo you” to “ok, you’re looking at me and i’m looking at you; let’s hang out.” takes the pressure off, takes the awkwardness down, and everyone is more relaxed to chat and socialize.

mx203 was an interesting kick for me because it’s typically called the “caucasian mix” and that’s why i wore it last night (as those two clubs generally have a larger caucasian crowd). turned out all my success was with asians. (mx200 is the “asian mix”) something somewhere worked out in my favor last night. :slight_smile:

tight…very tight dude.

well i recently started dating…i rarely date, i’m a freelancer, but there was finally a girl who managed to wrestle me into a submission…:roll_eyes:

yeah, now i really, really, have to get used to the fact that i’m dating and always forget that when theres other women around. don’t get me wrong, my girl is absolutely gorgeous, and everythin you ever wanted in a girl, just gotta get used to not hitting on every woman :wink: at least i dont feel obligated to do so anymore…

anyway, i think i will simply use instant shine and openness. possibly honestly, i’ll have to save up some money and order them haha…i’m a bum. she’s always a bit shy at first meeting, but she loves the way instant shine smells…which makes sense, i think its wonderful too.

yeah man, but youre good to move on from that one chick dude, it must be nice to be single again, not making any commitments.
like mitch hedberg said, “I don’t have a girlfriend. I just know someone who would get really mad if they heard me say that.”

anyway keep your entries comin dude! ive been away from pt too, went up north. very busy. i’m not able to try the a314 combos yet, but i’ll get there maybe. for now the social sprays work just fine. keep it up! :smiley:

Hey jayarea, just wanted to say that your posts are very inspiring to budding Asian guys interested in picking up. Keep up the good work mate, I’ll be following your thread almost religiously. :slight_smile: