Pheromone test for Phero Pros. Will you pass the test?

Well, did I get your attention?

Even though I have used pheromones for some years, there are still some questions that rarely have been answered (perhaps because it’s not an interesting subject or the answer may look obvious to some). Some subjects that are rarely discussed or even if they are discussed there’s rearely a consensus. Some of these questions are somewhat dumb. Stupid, if I might say. I already know the answer for some of them, but I realise some new people here may find them very useful.

By the way, a search has been made for all of those doubts and for almost all of them I got some answers. Still, they were not clear or undoubtful answers. If you have some time, please help make this thread interesting. I apologise for the dumbness or simplicity of some questions, but still I doubt someone will know the answer for all of these.

Let’s start (again, sorry if this post is way too long).

1 - When you use different products at the same time, is it ok for you to spray them in the exact same locations? I mean, can I use 1 spray of Ammo in my left wrist, some minutes later apply 1 spray of Instant Shine to that same wrist and finally some minutes later do the same for Instant Openness? I am not saying I will do that, I just want to know if applying different products to the same location will somehow lessen the effect of each product or a particular mollecule.

2 – If you use a large amount of pheromones, even if at different locations and with –none correctly buffered, is it possible that the guy who is sitting next to you may benefit from the application? How will women associate their “feelings” to you when they’re some feet away?

3 – What do women rationally think about the scent phero products like Ammo, Turn Up the Heat, MX 292 or any of the “social” ones? For the ladies who have had contact with such products, do you find the scent of them offensive? I consider Ammo, MX 292 and TUTH scents to be quite offensive. In fact, any product that has –none will have an offensive scent to me, no matter how effective the scent cover may be. That is quite a problem to me, as I may think other people may share the same opinion.

4 – Forgive this question, but I still haven’t figured out if TUTH is pure –none or has some other “secret” compound(s). Could you help me with that? NPA and The Edge are products for similar purposes, yet they are more than just –none.

5 – Pheromone products must be kept in a cool and dry place, away from heat. However, how much heat can they get before getting affected? I mean, obviously I won’t put them at direct sunlight. However, suppose I put them in my pocket in a hot day. They will obviously get some heat, even if they’re not at direct sunlight. Can it affect my product?

6 – Where do you keep your pheromone products at home? Do you have a special box or “container” for them?

7 – Is it ok to keep my products in the fridge? Or will that have a negative effect, just like heat?

8 – Most signs of interest from women are nonspecific and nonsensible. I mean, have low specificity (she may show a particular sign of interest and yet not be interested) and low sensibility (they may be interested and still never show a particular sign of interest or even no signs at all). For example, smiling has very low specificity (and low positive predictive value) and very low sensibility (and low negative predictive value) = meaning, a girl may smile and still have no interest at all (that’s the low positive predictive value) and she may not smile and still be interested (that is the low negative predictive value). What signs do you consider to have a high specificity (meaning, if she shows that particular sign, there is high probability of real interest).

9 – From my perspective, Androtics beats LS in socially oriented products, there’s no doubt about that. But there may be a lack of pure sexually oriented products here (as NPA or The Edge are). What are your favorite “sexual” products from Androtics (including putatives in combos or MX)?

10 – I’ve always been taught that “less is more”. However, if you check the most amazing reports done periodically in this forum, people are using considerably large amounts of pheromones (many times, including –none), which somehow contradicts the theory “less is more”. What do you have to say about that? Does correct buffering explain it all?

11 – Instant Honesty is a dangerous product in potency. Do you agree with that statement?

12 – Suppose someone says “I would like to try a product that makes me believe pheromone products DO work without any doubts”. Which particular product at what particular dosage would turn a non-believer into a believer in the fastest way?

13 – There’s a new law in town. People can only have 3 different pheromone products, no matter what. What would you pick? (my apologies for this question, I know it’s quite annoying, you don’t need to asnwer it :wink: )

14 – Will spraying an eau de toilette in the exact same location where you applied the pheromone product have any negative effect (a deleterious effect , I mean)? I could put this question in number 1 but only now have I remembered I had this doubt. I ask this because I read Tisha’s post where she said you should not mix an Instant Line product with a cologne in the same bottle. I understand there’s the risk we end up ruining the product, but besides getting incorrect ratios, is there any other negative effect of doing that? (like ruining the pheromone molecules per se)

15 – For the guys: have you ever been told by a woman that “you stink” or something like that when you were using a phero product?

16 – The second time I tried to introduce a friend to pheromones, he laughed and saying something like “I don’t need that to get girls”, even though I explained that they wouldn’t get girls per se, they would just be an enhancement (just like working out or dressing with style). What do you say when you are introducing a friend to these products?

17 – Shorter and/or thinner guys may need more –none, no matter how old they are (and the older they are, the more they’ll need –none). Muscular guys will need less –none. Generally speaking, truth or myth?

18 – Pheromone products work by direct effect and placebo effect. How much importance do you give to each? 50-50? 60-40?

19 – I think the theory 90-10 for pheromone effects doesn’t make any sense at all, even though I understand why people say it. Pheromones work to a certain extent but they may do ZERO in some situations and actually give you results that you would never achieve without pheromones, thus having a much higher importance than just 10% (I don’t think that ever happened to me, but I could be wrong). What do you have to say about that?

20 – “Why the hell did 2B started this threads? Is he on drugs or what? If I see 2B, I’ll beat the hell out of him (or at least I’ll try :smiley: )”. Are you thinking that?

I’m sure there are other simple questions that I could put here. Again, please remember that some of these questions are easy to answer, still it might be useful for those who are starting their pheromone adventure.

I forgot to say: sorry for any possible spelling mistake. English is not my native language.

great questions which id love to know the answers to myself

  1. I spray them in the same location because I run out of other areas of my body to spray them on.

  2. They will look for where the smell is coming from, I was out with friends last night and I applied some during a bathroom break. I came back and one of the girls was like “where is that smell coming from?”

  3. I asked a friend to smell MX292, she said it smells good. I can’t tell if she was being nice or telling the truth.

  4. I haven’t taken to time to learn about -none and all the big words.

  5. Not sure if intense temperature can affect them, I brought pheromones with me to work all the time and I never put them in the car because it gets really hot. I rather have them in the work place then let then heat up in the car.

  6. I keep my pheromones in my room. They are in the hidden stash where I hide porn and drugs.

  7. Why would you want to keep it in the fridge, maybe to keep it fresh? or you want a cold spray?

  8. This question is too long and confusing. If you’re out at a club/bar and all of a sudden you seen a girl in your proximity, she is there for a reason, she wants you to notice her. That’s a sign of interest. I was at hooters last night and the waiter leans into me for a split second while taking my friends order, it was really subtle but I was able to notice it. That’s a sign of interest. I think you may be over analyzing this question.

  9. I been using pheromones for about 2 months and still testing them out. I would say TUTH, it makes me touchy feely and it makes girls do the same based on my experience.

  10. I like to marinate myself in pheromones before I go out.

  11. I’m considering getting Instant Honesty X4.

  12. I’d tell them to get Instant Jerk, the first night I used it, I was at a lounge visiting my dj friend and 3 guys were acting hostile towards me including my dj friend. One of them was the door man and he didn’t let me in the club after I left to a different bar, his excuse “the fire marshall was in there and I cannot let anyone else in” not sure if he was telling the truth or not. The female bartending there was SUPER attracted to me when I ordered a drink, I saw the hair flips and her body language and all the other female bartenders were staring at me.

This is the product I’d recommend for anyone that doubts pheromones.

  1. I will not answer this question then.

  2. I always been using pheromones with no cover up scent or cologne. I will start wearing cologne with it now because I wear so much pheromones that contains “human musk” so wearing cologne would be a good idea.

  3. No one has ever told me that I stink.

  4. I don’t tell people that I’m using pheromones.

  5. I don’t know the answer to this question.

  6. I don’t know the answer to this questino.

  7. Pheromones will iniatiate things in a situation, you will have to follow through with it. Like all of a sudden, there is a woman standing near or next to you, pheromones did it’s job and now it’s your job to follow through like saying hi to her.

  8. This is a good post and I’m pretty sure a lot of people here have the same questions.

good post, hope some pros respond. make a sticky?

ok, i’ll put my ass out on the line and try to explain the 90/10 thing. i’m a firm believer of it, even before i started using pheros, and still today i remind myself of it when i need to and try to encourage new users to get in a similar mindset.

what i personally mean (and this may differ from what others mean) by the 90/10 thing is that when you use pheros, you still have to do all / a very high percentage of the work. i like to use the example of golf since i play the sport myself. you have to put in the practice hours, the rounds, the lessons, accept your losses, learn from your wins, etc. but when you go out on the course, there’s just a smidge of luck. you could hit a tree and get a lucky bounce, the wind could catch your ball just right, or maybe your shot is coming up short and the only thing saving it from rolling down into a lake is a tiny rock. thus, for golf, you could say it’s 99.999% you, .001% luck.

in the same manner, when using pheros, you still have to put in the work. just standing there waiting for hits to happen is the equivalent of the spraying tuth on a lamppost and expecting girls to go wild and try to hump it. let’s say you’re using io. you need to be open yourself and initiate or at least maintain and grow a conversation in order to see the best results. for the purposes of this example, we could even say it’s 100% the user, 10% pheros.

many new users come here seeking a boost in whatever they are pursuing. true, some users also need to make a personal change (be more open, be more aggressive/assertive, learn to talk to women/men, etc) and also get that boost, but most of the new users are already putting in that 90 or 100%. the pheros we recommend for them will give them that x% (the extra percentage is arbitrary) boost to help them achieve their goals, the goals that were once unattainable or very hard to attain pre-pheros.

i think the greatest example of this is “dude” (i believe that’s his username?) some of the older users may remember this situation. he came here as a believer with an open mind and got some products to use. he put in his work and used the products well, but just couldn’t get those hits/results. steve and androtics hooked him up big time with a nice gift basket of sorts and if i remember correctly, he finally started seeing those results.

in short, i use the 90/10 rule not in terms of importance, but to remind myself and other users than after the pheros have gone away, it’s still you and you need to put in the work.

It’s okay. I’ve never noticed a decrease in effect. You can use colognes over top of them as well.

This is a common one. Yeah, some guys can intuitively tell you are heating the women up and will stay close. You however, are the one being congruent to the application. You are the source of all the attraction power. So the minute you move away, they can tell.

Nothing but compliments on all the scent packages for me. -None also elicits “you smell good” comments. The only person so far who has said I smell bad is my mother. She finds all the pheromones smell like sweat. Don’t fear the pheros. :wink:

TUTH has many secret “steering” molecules that make a sexual vibe.

No effect, but come to think of it the MX series might need to be shaken up if you leave them for a long time.

Secret drawer.

I wouldn’t do that, sounds silly.

Touching. Elicited emotion. Skin flush, pupil dilation, pouty lips, sexual rearrangement of clothing. It goes on and on.

I understand what you are getting at with the low specificity and sensibility, and you’re right in a sense, observing only body language is “shallow”. Thats why I look for emotional and intellectual attraction signals. I just sort through the noise (signals of impatience, like hair twirling) and go for the signal: emotion.

I don’t think theres any lack. I personally enjoy MX292, P83, Ammo, Raw Power.

Correct buffering does not explain it. Balls and getting away with it has everything to do with it. Some people are just a bit cockier. They don’t mind being smelled from a mile away lol. I find I am using many pheromones in mixes these days, and mainly because my collection has grown. There are so many choices.

No. I used to be scared of it too buddy. You can search for my post asking for help with IH.

Ammo. Dose depends on age/personality.

MX292, A314, IO

The colognes are designed for air diffusion. Mixing it with a cologne in a bottle may not be perfect, but on the skin should be fine.

My Mom says that. Even with one spray of neroli. She had no problem with the Game scent however and did not comment on it.

Lol, I remember once she got really worried when I sprayed neroli for a few days in a row. “You really smell sweaty a lot” she said.

It’s not for everyone. I’m very selective about who I introduce.

Myth. Muscular mass has nothing to do with androstenone production which actually relates to age. You are probably mixing up some old beliefs about steroids, muscle heads, and muscles get you babes ads. It’s not your fault.

Lol, what a question. I don’t have a number for you, but have you heard of the pygmalion effect? look it up on wikipedia.

Yeah, state of mind and emotions has everything to do with it. Experience too. I don’t think numbers are important, but experiences have importance.

I had fun answering your questions, thanks!!!

my major thing with these is this

how can the girl tell its you and not the other guy?

how do you let them know its you and not the other guy next to you? moving away and coming back, in my opinion would not do anything because isnt her attraction switches flipped already? and wouldnt your “cloud” still be around her and in her nose/brain/receptors? answer that real quick

It is a good question, and a lot of people have trouble with this one because we tend to think of scents as being nebulous, just hanging in the air without any obvious connection to a source. But let’s look at it a little differently.

If you walked into a room and smelled BO, you’d be able to pinpoint which person it came from relatively quickly. It works that with with all scents, they form a cloud around, or follow in a trail behind whatever projected them. Sometimes people walk by you and after they pass you can smell their cologne. You might walk into a grocery you’ve never been to before, and can immediately tell which direction the bakery is because of the good smells coming from it. Doesn’t matter much if it’s a good smell or a bad one, when my baby toddles past I can quickly tell if he needs a new diaper, even if he’s not in my arms, and only just walks past me.

Now, we think of pheros as a scent because they are carried out from you on the scent package that they came with. This is one of the reasons why Androtics doesn’t want to sell unscented pheros to new users. Unscented pheros will not diffuse well unless you give them something to ‘ride on.’ I believe the scent packages for the pheros they sell have been chosen primarily for their diffusion capabilities, secondarily for aesthetic reasons. You may not like neroli, for example, but it shoots those pheros out there better than a lot of other scents.

Other people may sit/stand close enough to you to make the initial determination of where the scent came from difficult. But just like the BO, the bakery, whatever, people very quickly figure out where a scent came from, and the pheros are riding on that scent. There is virtually no question that they will identify the pheromone signature as yours and yours alone. I have never experienced anyone ‘stealing’ my pheros and reaping benefits from them.

This is not a fair statement, because women are not machines. Once aroused or turned on we don’t just remain helplessly in that state, waiting for the next male body to fix it for us. If someone has become attracted to you and aroused by your pheros, she will not immediately project that feeling onto another guy just because you left the room. Unless she’s a complete ho, in which case you really don’t want her anyway. :roll_eyes:

Seriously, your signature is yours, just as your own natural body scent is yours. No one can steal it, borrow it, gain anything from it. I have seen men who were romantically ‘busy’ with someone actually turn their attention away from that woman and notice my pheros. I didn’t do anything to cause it other than be there. And those men were already paying attention to someone who had caught their interest and attracted them sexually. The difference was the pheromones, they projected a certain something that surpassed the sexuality of the moment, overrode it. If it hadn’t been obvious to the guy what the source was, he simply would have become more intent on the women he was already holding.

Good question.

I am not mixing those old beliefs. A muscular body does “get you babes”, I know it from personal experience. Obviously, you won’t get “babes” just by having a muscular body. Well, you might (again, “personal experience”), but your personality still has to do a lot of work.

I won’t have women jump to my lap because I have a muscular body, but I’m pretty sure my chances went straight up some months after entering the gym. Placebo is a reason, but it’s not just placebo. But then again, obviously I’m not suggesting women feel attracted to professional bodybuilders! :smiley:

Still, don’t you think a 25 year old 6’3’’ 220 pound guy will need less -none than a 25 year old 5’4’’ 140 pound guy? If you have that first guy asking advise about pheromones, people won’t put high -none products as priority, they’ll clearly focus on social products. They might do the same for the other guy, but will probably suggest some -none in his “buying options” too.

Anone is a Testosterone derivative. How much muscle your genetics will let you put on is determined largely by Testosterone. I guess there is some correlation. Also, if you look big and intimidating you don’t want to smell intimidating as well. If muscle gives you an intimidating presence then anone could amp that, and you’d OD easier.