Just a quick note… While she was here, I had my mother tell me the other day that she has difficulty breathing around one of my pheromones. She’s a lifelong smoker (started at 11 years old) and has the beginning stages of emphysema. She stopped smoking a year or so ago, but she’s on oxygen.
Anyway… this one that she tells me she has difficulty with, is also the one that she hates the smell of (androstedienone). I don’t know if she is just so rigid minded that she has psyched herself into her difficulty breathing as a response to how much she hates the smell, or what… I can’t imagine that she’d respond that way to such minuscule amounts of any pheromone (I was washing out the empty bottle(!), had not applied any, and she claimed to have to scrub down the bathroom after that). But it’s something noteworthy.
I have noticed that people who are rigid thinkers (she is one of many I know, family and friends) tend to build up stronger and stronger responses to anything they decide they dislike initially. What amazes me is that I seem to be surrounded by people who are such rigid thinkers that they can do things like that… they decide they don’t like “pheromones” (based on not liking the smell of one or two particular pheromones) and then whenever they smell me wearing anything, it’s automatically pheromones, and it stinks… even if it’s something they have told me they like the smell of (Instant Shine, Instant Openness, etc.) or it’s only cologne.
So heads up on the possibility, however remote, of causing breathing difficulties… and keep the rigid thinkers in mind when you consider results.
That’s interesting, catlord. My husband just yesterday commented (after he heard me spritzing something in the next room, right before I entered our home office where he was working) that “that one’s disturbing.” When I asked what he meant, he said it made it hard for him to breathe. He didn’t know what it was, perfume, pheros, or what. He is aware of and has no problems with my phero use. It was one of the Liquid Sunshine series (mild neroli scent). After 5 minutes or so it no longer bothered him.
He’s not a smoker but has heavy secondhand smoke exposure in one of his jobs, and he believes that has made him oversensitive to fumes and even smells in general.
Interesting. I’ve been smoking since I was 15, but over the past year or so I’ve curtailed my use to about 1 pack per week. I noticed that about a month ago my breathing seemed to be a bit more strained, or that it felt like I was short of breath at times. This has never happened, even as a smoker.
However, when I didn’t have a cigarrette for about 2 weeks, I noticed that the sensation went away. Common sense says that it would be because I quit smoking for 2 weeks, but I the shortness of breath also began a bit after I started using pheros. I highly doubt it’s because of phero’s though, and more of an indicator that I need to quit smoking once and for all
Also, shortness of breath or the “feeling” that is similar to it can be of psychological etiology rather than physical. Could it be that particular pheros for certain folks cause this kind of response?
Carrie, during the drydown phase of any perfume or cologne product, people are going to react to the strong scent caused by the evaporation of the product. Maybe the effects of the drydown itself were causing his reaction, and not the pheromones. Have you tested the same Liquid Sunshine Mix on him after drydown with the same effect? Have you ever been around him during drydown of another Neroli scent?
Catlord, I have noticed that Liquid Trust has DEFINITE effects on the breathing patterns of myself and others. It’s actually very freaky, and sometimes disturbing. It’s to the extent that a few times people I’ve been interacting with while wearing LT have felt weirded out by their own inability to control their breathing and left a conversation early. I don’t think it makes it harder to breathe though, just slows down the breathing rate. Of course my experience with pharmaceuticals and pheromones will not be the same as anyone else’s experiences with the same chemical, but for what it’s worth, the effects of LT on MY breathing are very similar to the effects of Diphenhydramine (contained in Tylenol PM, or Simply Sleep, OTC sleep aids) on my breathing.
live4, I think he was probably anticipating having trouble when he heard me spraying something! and then he got the top notes as they evaporated off and he noticed that. Once that had all dried down after 5 minutes he was fine. I have worn quite a few different pheromones (including all of the Liquid S. series) with the neroli scent around him before with never a comment, but he might never have heard me spritz them before.
I haven’t tested LT enough (or recently enough) to comment on your observations… if I had time, I’d do that. But right now, SD-12 and 13 are being tested. Once I have this all figured out, I’ll have to try LT again and see what happens.
I’ve had a roommate (with asthma) start coughing around some of them but I think it’s might be more the scent than the actual pheros for her. She hates the Akuto scent and is only so-so on the Game and Neroli scents but likes the Ammo scent and hasn’t reacted at all when I’m covering something with the Ammo or using some of the scentless Experimones/Putatives that I ordered recently.
I’ve also had the Game scent make a sinus headache worse, but most of the time I enjoy the scent and haven’t had any problems with it…I haven’t had any problems with any of the other scents (and I can be pretty sensitive to scents/colognes/etc.)
I’ve noticed a few pheromones (and possibly scents) seem to make me sneeze… Pherlure makes me sneeze. Game I don’t remember. But I sneeze around TAL. The only thing I ever had come close to a breathing problem was when I applied P79 and it made my lungs feel warm… but that didn’t bother my breathing.
I’ve had a roommate (with asthma) start coughing around some of them but I think it’s might be more the scent than the actual pheros for her.
Jsn,
Although sprays and strong odors are included as asthma triggers, but so far I’ve not being affected by some of the pheromones I’m using. There are many asthma triggers that can aggravate asthma symptoms, and they often differ from person to person. If a wearer is allergic to spray pheromones, try dabbing it. Your roommate might be allergic to the strong odors.It might also triggers her asthma. Asthma actually is a chronic disease of the airways of a person’s lungs.These airways are also known as bronchial tubes. The muscles around the airways in the lungs squeeze together or tighten. This is often called “bronchoconstriction,” and it can make it hard for your roommate to breathe the air in or out of her lungs. So be more careful ya…
Yeah, I’ve stopped spraying it when she’s around or will be around with the next 30 minutes or so, to make sure it all settles out of the air before she’ll be around.
Once I have this all figured out, I’ll have to try LT again and see what happens.