Hi there,
I’m a newbie and my order is coming soon (tomorrow, I suppose). I have read that androstenone, which must be an ingredient of ammunition might cause problems with heart especially for people already having palpitations and heart beat skips? (Have you heard of PVC, premature ventricular contraction. I have them frequently). Anyone who had this sort of side effect? Or any other nasty things…
Thanks
If androstenone causes premature ventricular contraction, stay away from your armpit, gyms, kitty litter (cat pee), farm yards and dance floors, 'cause they have it in abundance. Realize pheromones are natural substances you produce and intake everyday. We’re not talking toxic chemical or narcotics here. I too suffer from premature ventricular contraction. However only certain food preservatives and pesticides invoke it. For example Costco meat send me to the emergency room and doctor several times before my cardiologist and I realized their chemical preservatives were the cause. That’s the reason I went organic years ago. No more premature ventricular contraction unless I do something stupid like eat at a cheap buffet or fast food. Luckily I can sniff pit and bathe in androstenone to no ill-effect.
With all that said, the first few times you trip you’ll probably experience excitement from the artificially high doses of pheromones. So go easy. As you use regularly, you become increasingly tolerant until most of us feel little or nothing. Remember, you’re using to influence your targets, not for self-medication.
What does premature ventricular contraction cause? 
Tater suggests that, if you have an irregular heart beat, you NOT use TAA, androstenone or any phero where you dont know the content. The first time I tried Instant Shine, I experienced palpitations, and I normally do not. Stick with things like EST, IFM (androstadienone) and Instant Gentleman (androsterone). Try everything else cautiously, especially mega mixes.
Simple things like the scent of ammonia can cause arrythmia. I wouldnt dismiss things as readily as Gegogi. The phero dosages were playing with here are absurd compared to nature.
Life is already a dangerous thing. Take measured risks.
I could imagine the litigation Androtics would endure if it could be proved pheromones were directly responsible for heart arrhythmia. May have to put a disclaimer on the bottle and have customers sign releases…
So Tate, was the arrhythmia a one time thing, or did it happen every time you used IS? If it was a one-off, it was probably something else and the application of IS and your arrhythmia a mere coincidence. Things like that happens all the time in life.
No longer happens with IS, but TAA first time, MX203 first time, high dosage of MX203 first time, first high dosage of TAA Oil. I thought i was gunning for a serious enfarction, though i was farc’ed.
I think others have also reported wierd things with TAA. Hey, ammonia kills people too, and there’s no warning on the bottle.
The only side effects that I have heard of occasionally is rash on the application point for people with sensitive skin. Other then that I have never heard of any other side effect except the occational headache, sneezing or head rush feelings.
I dont feel gegogi dismissed it at all. He just didnt make assumptions.
Tater is the first person I have ever heard having any kind of heart related issues with the products here. Its my opinion its a serious accusation/assumption to make about the products with no medical proof to back it up.
Even if the forum members have/have not heard of any heart related side effects we are not doctors. I would suggest you speak with your doctor about what he/she thinks triggers your heart arrhythmia. If you do not want to mention pheromones to him just ask him about inhaling any chemical or cologne in a normal everyday amounts. Abuse of any chemical of course can cause medical problems. Normally the abuse of such products like Glue or arosols effects only the brain but this is something you really should take up with your doctor.
Tisha
My wife has tried a314 twice. On both occassions it caused rapid heartbeat to the point where she was not comfortable with it.
She does not experience accelerated heart rate when I wear a314.
There are no medical implications for her that I know of, and she has no known heart abnormalities.
It’s not something we’re worried about, just another data point.
One more data point.
I got rapid heart beat the few times I tried A314. I had to wash it off. I get no acceleration when my husband wears it.
It’s not an Androitics product, but it’s also happened to me when wearing Primal Instinct For Women. I have no medical implications or heart abnormalities.
Anybody else experience this?
There’s a huge difference between “rapid heartbeat” and “premature ventricular contraction.” I exhibit increased heartbeat anytime I get excited: first date, musical performance, working out, dramatic movie, horny fantasy, driving fast, about to have sex, etc. Increased heartbeat from excitement is normal and expected. It’s your body’s way of getting you ready for action. So getting excited from initial pheromone use is normal. Pheromones apps used to excite me years back. Felt like something dramatic was about to happen–a strong anticipation of an event you needed to be juiced up for. Sadly, doesn’t happen to me anymore. You can only fool the body so many times…
Well, there are other side effects to pheromones: Gegogi reports more sex, Tater reports more IOIs, SteveO reports girls talking to him, etc. - lol.
The initial Instant Shine effects are probably due to increased excitement.
Some of our products are like exciting movies or thrill rides at the amusement park. They’re extremely exciting until you get used to them. Which isn’t necessarily bad… but… if you have a weak heart or are otherwise affected by exhilaration or excitement, you probably shouldn’t get on in the first place.
Any product with androsterone cause my voice to lower its pitch significantly. I wind up sounding like Larry King or Art Bell.
Since chicks dig deep voices, that ain’t a bad side effect at all!
Hmm, I’ve always wonder about that stereotype. I oft hear young men attempting to speak so low pitched they mumble 'n rumble in a monotone. After asking them to repeat themselves I usually give up trying to figure out what they said. However I can’t help but notice men with high singing voices tend to be the most popular stars, especially among female fans. Seems to cross cultural divides as male opera singers, funk masters, easy listening and rockers all tend to sing so high I wonder if they have nads at all.
The only side effects I can think of is my wife and I get closer and have deeper conversations. This sometimes leads to both of our heart rates going up and profuse sweating. This happens when I wear Turn Up The Heat.
IS has helped my relationship with my teenage kids, they seem to relax around me and hang around a bit more so we can talk. I have somewhat of a muscular build and people seem intimidated by my presents, IS and Instant Openness seem to help them get over their preconceived, unwarranted, opinions of me. I just had a long conversation with a fellow who normally wouldn’t say much, but “Hi”. I think A314 and IS had something to do with taking down a perceived barrier.
As far as health issues, I can agree with Jasmin. I get excited when I use these products and see a positive side effect in people I come in contact with.
When it’s lovemaking time, Barry White’s the one doing the singing, not Andy Gibb.
I’d feel gay screwin’ to Barry White. I’d have to go with instrumental jazz: Pat Martino, Wes or Joe Pass. Vocals get in the way–distracting. If It had to be vocals, I’s prefer Black female–Randy Crawford makes it itch for me. Even Corinne Bailey Rae makes wood 1000 better than Barry. In fact, I’d rather bone to Led Zeppelin than Barry. They often jam for extended sets, makin’ for good strokes.
Sometimes you don’t know how exciting the ride is…UNTIL you get on it!
I have had PVCs all my life. It isn’t dangerous.
I don’t get any disregulation of heart rhythm or increase in PVCs with any Androtics product. DHEA causes both when I take it as a supplement.
However, I do get increased feelings of excitement and increase in heart rate and increase in responsiveness to physical stimulation with P80. At a certain dosage with some other putatives, and the right circumstances 
, my excitement and heart rate shoots up to about 120 bpm when I use P80. I love it. Sometimes a good pounding… heart… is wonderful! 
It isn’t the P80 that increases the heart rate, btw. It is the level of excitement that P80 enables you to experience.
Diane
If heart problems scares you, better not have sex anymore! Sex is crazy with what it does to the body. I have a friend whose husband recently died because of it. No joke.
I say we all stop having sex, it’s just too dangerous.
sneaks off to go get laid