started trying the different products just over a year ago, which coinceditally is the same time I started studying game and working hard on personal improvment. My point is that its hard to distiguish certain female behavior, hits, IOI , or whatever you want to call it as being initiated by the pheromones or by my elevated game. Anybody else been in a smilar situation and wondered about this?
~Carmo~
Yes, i think about this all the time.
I’ve had many examples…with A1…i just have the girl I’ve never met before…smell the spot where I sprayed…I ssaw instant change in behavior she was very comfortable with me…but in my past women are NEVER comfortable with me…Im always told, they don’t trust me, that I’m a player..etc."
I’m funnier than most of the people you know…Im a complete goofball…BUT…A314 2 drops…walked into a group of people I never met mixed with people I did know…everyone took me seriously, even we I tried to joke…it was almost like they wouldn’t let me…and Im a comedian!!..plainly mones only hit.
IH…put 4 sprays on…sat in Starbucks…i heard about 3 or 4 ppl say…“I don’t know why I just told you that”…one day during lunch one of the guys i work with, just spills the beans about being with the girl across the table..to her surprise"…soo uncomfortable to them…so funny to me
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So my point is…taking myself and the normal behavior that is displayed to me when I act like such and such as a “control” point of view and parlaying that against how people act near mones as the “effect” point of view…lets me know which is which..
Now I’ve got a little bit of game in me…Ive gotten laid w/out mones maybe once a year and thats only when I’m in a show cause m a performer…but I’ts never been this easy. I’ve never did it without being shit tested and having to pass. With mones I have. I’ve never just sat back and with a few looks and “accidentl touches” get a women to connect with me like we’ve known each other for years without mones. So really its sorta a false dicotmy that you’re thinking when you put mones vs game.
Mones are like an Armani suit on a lawyer…without the suit he may or may not “get the girl”…notice women looking or IOIs… but he knows when he has that $3000 suit on…all of a sudden women are looking staring…testing…and interested.
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Yes - But in my case, I had begun to work on my negative aspects for some time before taking-up pheros.
I had noticed quite an improvement before but the curve went way-up when I finally added the pheros. It was like the last piece of the jigsaw falling into place. ![]()
If the shoe fits
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I’d say its a combintation of both my friend.
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As most pheromone users tell you, mones are about 10% of the total picture. I would say looks and game are 90%. So while I love the effect that mones have, it’s still mostly gonna come down to how good your game is.
I fully agree it is certainly very important but maybe it is how I use the pheros but I have repeatedly noticed that game will only get me so far - but of course I’m still a relative beginner.
But when I sense I’m getting to the right point, and finally add that phero top-up or specific last phero to the mix (eg Androstenone), and get a rapid and rampant sexual escallation from my subject (and others, good or bad) I’m inclined to think that however small, the phero’s role is a very significant key?
Oh and looks can’t be that vital - I’m no great looker, although I am well turned out and physically fit. Good conversation and a reasonable dancing ability seem to be my key attributes.
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