Tweak Your Game

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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First and Yes OMG these things work..but what next?

I want to point out something I noticed here, by some people not everyone and I’m one of those..and also at the same time ask for advice

I see those threads about Wow Wow I wore those pheromones and that girl winked at me, touched me smiled at me. Oooh it feels so good. It is a mental masturbation!

There is Egotistic Game which includes various types of people from those who say oh look at my rolex, or I’m goddamn good looking to those who do manipulative NLP patterns or play I don’t want you I don’t want you neg neg, I don’t want you I don’t want you, goes to room “oh look, I have a penis! let’s have sex”

and there is non egotistic game. Ego drop = instant attraction. There’s a group of pick up teachers who are going in that direction and hell it is so hard because your ego keeps jumping in the picture everytime you get a “hit”.

Let’s ask ourselves, what are we using those pheromones for?

at some point I thought by spraying pherlure I was manipulating women. and those girls sensed it and didn’t like it. They were feeling abused.

some people maybe wearing them to get some self esteem, sorry.. I meant EGO, because self esteem is internal, its the real shit..you don’t get it from a nice pair of jeans or a spray bottle. “You’re not your job. You’re not how much money you have in the bank. You’re not the car you drive. You’re not the contents of your wallet. You’re not your fucking khakis.”. But hey its cool, we all gotta start somewhere to deal with those childhood issues.. its not a bad place to start, its better than being the “nice guy”.

Now I wear them for a different reason, I wanna make these cute babes CUM! I wear it for HER pleasure. However I’m finding a hard time getting to the real deal, those pheefees (pit name for pheromones) flip the whole game upside down. Girls get nervous when I put on ammo, i guess cuz their pussy gets wet instantly which doesn’t make sense to her while she’s trying to sell me some lotion and she starts to stutter and mistake words..or she hears stuff people didn’t say on a dinner table when I wear instant honesty “guy friend: when Saifz coughs you hit his back. Girl: when he cums i hit.. when he coughs I hit his back?, other girl laughs hard” or the bar tender gives you that “Jesus, who’s this guy” look when you wear turn the heat up..the starbucks chick who’s always been into you gets super nervous all the sudden, and the pretzels girl who used to check you out can’t look at your face now when you order (while not knowing that she’s scratching her arm and playing with her hair giving away 2 sexual IOIs).

I am not using pheromones to get girls to like me. They already do. I’m just not experienced and I’m intimidating and I wait too long or close myself and hide my interest sometimes and girls take that as disinterest and its over. I was hoping to get these things to help ease things out but instead its more complicated now. I think it needs some caveman style game with those sexual pheromones which I’m not good at it.

summery of all the above:

my 2.0 percent: for you guys who are so overwhelmed because a girl looked at you. Take it to the next step, and look into inner game. Don’t get pheromone dependent.

my question for the gigolos and the guys who get laid a lot:

would you please give me advice on how to tweak game when using different pheromones, when to go direct, when to be nice, when to push it..tell me what you guys do..

Thanks for reading this, waiting for your responses..

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I kinda got lost after the first line so I will go from there.

Of course what you have to remember is that I am mid-40s and married 20+ years. I use these products for a lot of things (work. social, etc.) but NOT picking up women as that would be a great way to become unmarried.

My advice is: be yourself and do what you need and want to do. BUT do it being aware of the pheromones you are wearing and what they do. If you can tailor the pheromones to what you need to get done but then just go out and do it. Let the pheromones grease the doors you have to pass through but don’t expect them to walk you through them. You still have to do the walking.

Fine tuning the 'none can be one of the hardest things because different women can react differently. I tend to wear just enough to generate a little spark as it can help me get things done. I do not want or need so much that it will generate an awkward situation.

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That’s the great thing about this site, many people are not pickup artists, and even ones that are, are willing to allow some space for people that are just into “self-improvement”, or anything else that interests them. On some sites it is so boring reading a string of acronyms that all refer to the same thing: somebody picked up an easy woman and got layed.

BTW, Fight Club was cool when I was a 20-something, or whatever age I was.. but as I got older I realized it’s just a movie and doesn’t have any more of the answers to life’s big problems than “Navy Seals” or a dozen other Hollywood films. I think the real message of the film was “don’t take yourself, or anything else, too seriously… including this film”. You will never catch me quoting that film again. Although Tyler Durden’s speech in the gymn is classic, and is indeed an anthem for my generation, the rest of the film is incoherent. There is no substance in that film, only a void. I’m at the stage in my life wheer I demand answers that actually do something tangible and move towards a goal, not self-pittying platitudes. I still watch Fight Club sometimes, though :slight_smile: If you want a movie that really has alot of thought in it, try Blade Runner. That one will never be a cliche.

I got into pheros years ago for the most loserish reason of all. To make people like me- I think that’s why nearly everybody does get into them. But then you discover that pheromones are only a small part of the answer. Now I’m mostly interested in exploring what exactly they do: curiosity, which is probably even more sad. If I find something that clicks with me, all the better.

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I kind of understand mostly what you mean. I agree that pheromone is only a small part of the game.

But you still need to remember that this forum is a pheromone focused forum, so of course there will be much more talking about different pheromone products and its effects, but less about what you did to take it to the next level or what you did to increase your edge, since those are more focused in other kind of forums (ex. pua and dating advices forum) :slight_smile:

So there are stuff that aren’t fully posted, just in case you were thinking something else.

I would say don’t change your personality too much, keep it similar and simple, but you can play with different pheromone to see which goes better for you :slight_smile:

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Or the more likely version: A horny girl found an easy target who thought himself to be a PUA, and had HER way with him. :smiley:

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Thanks.

-D4

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That is one of the great things about this site.

Exactly. And remember - like most things coming out of Hollywood its purpose is to … make money. Not you a better person.

That’s the first rule, right? Never quote Fight Club. Or something like that.

Yes - I am too busy living my own life to worry about much. Does it work or doesn’t it? If it does work, how? And how can it help me as I live my life as opposed to me building a lifestyle around it.

Yep - it is a good movie.

Ain’t that the truth.

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Oh, I worry… but I’ve gone through a quarter/third life crisis (yes, there are actually people that talk about). There will always be angst in my life that “Fight Club” speaks to, there are indeed many real problems in the world and you can hear them echoed on TV pundits, and vaguely mumbled by the younger generations themselves- kids now days have no future, job layoffs, McJobs, your khaki pants and IKEA furniture, etc. But at some point, you have to decide to stop whining, and start doing something, things will not change themselves. I find apathy to be one of the most disgusting traits on my generation (I’m a tweener, not quite really X, not really Y). Fight Club offers no answers and no real questions and not even a guide where to look; it’s pure nihilism. But you know the bills don’t pay themselves… I’m sure you know that of course.

Anyways, enough film critiques. I find this a great site and I am very surprised after so many weeks involvement that this site is so open to different motivations. I spent weeks shadowing other sites and it all seemed to be the same story over and over, only this site seemed to be substantially different. People posting their experiences (and not just “oh, I got a hit”), trying out new things, It’s a great site and a great company.

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please stay in topic guys..

still waiting for answers. thanks.

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There are giggolos here?
Seriously tho, just read Bosshank’s post. Then read Daedelus’ post. Then read them again because you may have missed the point. Sage advice is being offered here.

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Don’t forget Mockingbird’s post. The second paragraph says it all.

-D4

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Of course, Wise words as well.
Sorry Mockingbird.

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I read again. With all due respect, One is married and one went off topic.

I am asking about calibration/defusing nervousness in the girl. Unfortunately, the majority of pick up forums don’t believe pheromones work. I am hoping to get answers here.

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Saifz, are you asking if guys use different styles of game depending on which pheromones they are wearing? Or are you asking “How do I match my pheromones to my style of game?”

As to calibration, there is only one answer to any matters of calibration…experience. Make mistakes and learn from them.

As far as making girls nervous, that could be too much -none. Play around using more and less and see what happens.

Not sure what your question was but I hope this helped.