Well, I think I learned something

Well, this last year has been pretty tough, trying to work the pheromones and on my game. So far, I’ve gotten no where. The pheromones I bought from this site (AMMO, Instant Shine, and CCTM2) are not working, or I’m missing the point. Everybody says its 90% you and 10% pheromones, but I’m not seeing any relief from the game.

So I’m giving up on using pheromones and PUA style. I think I got it all wrong; those two things won’t help get girls. I think what is true is most girls like a happy man. Obviously, I have low confidence and am not happy. So I need to find happiness somewhere, whether it would be playing guitar or reading the bible. I should just enjoy life instead of fretting about the techniques I’ll use to get a woman. Woman should complement my life, not define my life (which is what some of you have said).

So I went to a football game last night and just enjoyed watching the game by myself. Then I saw some friends and started talking to them and having a good time in the student section. Before you know it, a girl talks to me (I didn’t approach). And then another girl who I haven’t met before approached me and started carrying a conversation. I think a major reason for both of them approaching me is the fact that I was enjoying myself. No pheromones, no pua costume, just me enjoying a game by myself and talking to some friends along the way. I bet there is some truth in “trying is not trying.”

thats where the 90% you comes from :slight_smile:

You don’t need to be a pickup artist to get girls. You just need to do what you did at the game - be yourself and enjoy life. Things will fall into place on their own. Nothing is more attractive to a girl than confidence, and there is nothing more confident than having a good time and not caring about what people around you think. You discovered on your own what people try to (but truly can’t) teach, the 90% you part. Don’t give up on pheromones, but instead use them to compliment your natural abilities. As I’ve said many times to a number of users in the intro forum, pheros are simply an enhancer. They enhance the persona that you project. Being confident and being yourself will take you farther than any phero ever can. But pheros can also help you go that extra step further after you take yourself to the top.

You hit the nail on the head. Be yourself, and be true to who you are and people will resonate with that. I went through and looked at all the PUA stuff and tried it and tried it and nothing worked. Then I reached the point you are at where I decided to just relax and be myself. The pheros did help me to feel more confident which led to me valuing myself more. That led to an uptick in my self esteem. It all worked (with a lot of focus on my part to be relaxed and be who I am) to help me get to where I am today. Happy! :slight_smile:

Keep being yourself and liking yourself and the rest really does follow.

That is a good attitude to take LTD, you don’t need to change or force yourself to try and impress someone, being yourself is the best method.

PuA techniques are a flawd method, sure it works but one of the underlining concepts is to basically go round hitting on every girl (among other things) which basically means PuA themselfs get turnt down regularily but they play a number /odds game. I don’t think it is very good in the sense you are purposely manipulating someone; essentially putting on an act. If i were a girl I’d find it pretty scary and creepy to be honest.

as scotties123 mentioned, just use pheromones to compliment you. In reality pheromones should just be regarded as wearing a cologne, a subconcious one at that. That way you are not distracting yourself by using them, and just being yourself :wink:.

Best of luck to you :smiley:

If I’m happy, should pheros even matter? I think girls will just be naturally attracted to the confidence and enjoyment I will have, no matter what. And yes, I need to be the best “me” possible. After that football game and today, I’m so psyched to take on college and life. Even now, I could start working on my own happiness and enjoyment. Furthermore, if I start now, I bet some HS girls will be like “what’s up with this guy?” (in a good way) :smiley:

They shouldn’t. For me, the pheros were a tool I was able to use to help me start to see that I’m someone who really is valuable. I needed them. I still use them because I find they do work to make a lot of situations in my life go more smoothly but I recognize that it really is me that is making things happen. Just like you did. Way to go! :cool:

Your happiness is what matters most. It just seemed like you were slightly disappointed with pheros because they didn’t do whatever you had expected from them. I was simply suggesting that if you do continue to use them, that you keep in mind what you have realized about self confidence and how it matters most. Of course girls will be attracted to your confidence and happiness, that was the point I was trying to get across. Pheros can only do so much. If you cannot stimulate the attraction, pheros won’t do anything at all for you. Guys have been getting girls for quite some time before synthetic pheromones were invented :stuck_out_tongue:, so they are never needed, but they can help if used properly. But whatever floats your boat dude. If you feel like taking a phero break is best for you, go for it. Do what makes you happy :slight_smile:.

Yeah thanks. I need to get my life straight, and then maybe I will reapproach pheromones, I dunno. I have to get the main two parts down first, confidence and happiness.

Good luck, and you know we’re here if you need us.

Ack, told you! That’s what I always meant by “don’t give a fuck.” Just be yourself and have fun, told you it works!

I think I have always been expecting too much from pheromones. I see all these great hits that users report, and I’m here questioning what the hells going on. But the problem I noticed is that I am way tooo self-conscious. I care about how people think of me etc. I think this alone is a big problem, and it is interfering with pheromones abilities. But that’s why I’m still around. I’m here on a journey for self-improvement. You would know what I mean if you’ve been following my journal :wink: Good luck to you sir!

Look up Social Anxiety / Phobia, this where you become preoccupied with what people think about you, to the point where it is all you think about instead of getting on with life, self monitoring becomes a blockage to living your life.