don't get it ladies. either very poor game or seriously ropey banta

I think my game is in need of drastic improvement: ladies please come to my aid.

on most nights out, get hits without pheros, blatant flirting…

bowl over to the lady and talk for a little while…then she usually loses interest…

i dont get it.

Yesterday night was a good case in point: throughout the night, met 2 ladies who i danced and flirted with most of the night. in each case they decided to go home with someone else.

the particularly annoying one, was with this reasonably cute blonde lady - danced with her most of the night, then she invited me to another rave with her friend as we stood outside the venue smoking a migaret. anywho, being friendly i decide to invite a random guy into the conversation, because he was standing alone observing my conversation with this lady and her friend; looking a bit gloomy.

to cut a long story short, she seemed to take a liking to him, they were very huggy, touchy feely…

i left the group to proceed to the next venue without me. though the guy came back looking for me, because the girls didn’t want to go without me.

still..decided to forget about her…i don’t like the idea of…well…scrapping obviously over a woman…

p.s wearing loads of instant openness, did notice people following me from venue to venue

I am no expert by any means! And I am really new to using these pheromones.

Maybe you shouldn’t try instant openeness or a ton of it but maybe more of a sexy pheromone? Instant openeness can attract attention especially for conversation, but I think keeping the attention is what you are looking for…I wish I could help more, I don’t really know about the male pheromones ..but on a different note different conversation pieces can be key to keeping the attention you recieve.

Also…you invited a guy into your conversation…I think that was sort of a mistake because she became interested in someone else…almost sent like a signal of..hey he invited a different guy into our convo..maybe he isn’t interested in me…

its okay to be a nice guy and talk to everyone but don’t let another guy ruin your game!

As far as pheromones go…I am sure you can try to sex it up a bit…does any have any other suggestions?

Sorry..wish I knew more about male pheromones!

If you have Ammo that would be the one to used out at clubs. Maybe Ammo and Shine.

Went out again yesterday. just received turn up the heat double strength - was so excited, like a little child.

had to give it a try.

(still waiting for the pherlure i ordered three weeks ago :angry:)

showered in instant oppennes, 5 drops of alpha 314 to the wrists and neck. readied my turn up the heat (in a to go bottle) and tucked it away in my utility belt.

usual ready to go out preparation ritual; bottle of wine, assemble the robes, crank up the music:

YouTube - Sidewinder - The Adventure (can’t believe its on youtube.)

tidy the house (the power of positive thinking :smiley:).

Anyway - out and about with a flock of good guys, venue hopping, dancing, talking with anyone and everyone as usual.

The night was quite long so I’ll cut to the chase…s.

Met 2 girls outside a venue - one very attractive brunette (still thinking about her :roll_eyes:) usual flirtatious banter, scoping the contours, touchy feely with the brunette, they were supposed to be meeting up with their male friends, but she wanting me to go with them - gave me a very suggestive intense gaze (like she wanted to eat me), wouldn’t let go of my hand.

the night was still young still much fun to be had - plus really wanted to dance, so i let the them retire.

second, lounging round the table in a small wine bar with the lads, on the table next to us was a guy and his prospect, their body language said 1st or second date.

she kept on glancing over, initiating eye contact and started talking to me as soon as he went to the loo - she was quite nice too. i kept her company until he came back. she didn’t really acknowledge him when he did - i spoke with her a little longer to be polite then bowed out (don’t like the idea of women flirting with other people whilst on a date or with a guy - plus i kinda felt for the guy: don’t think she’s a keeper)

third, chatting with people outside a venue (smoking). Don’t wait for IOI’s these days, just dive in. met a nice American dude and a girl he had been courting most of the night. Usual lively banter - completely took all her attention, touchy feely, moving closer, kinda gripped on my every word, can’t remember what i was saying (plucking randoms from the air). Yeah, she was very nice - people started to look at us a little funny and laugh at this dude. Not cool.

anywho - much fun to be had - ducked over to somewhere else.

Oh, serious anti hit - dived in at the deep edn again, the girls seemed mildy interested but the guy i was with was talking a good game, very strong banter so i kinda shied away in search of other…

lastly, leave my group of friends to join some randoms, 4 guys 2 girls. 1 very cute red head - the girls want to go to another venue so we proceed to only open place in town. anyway usual talking, making merry.

so one of the girls has to go home, the red head decides to stay over at hers - cool - lets go. hug and waive good by to the guys, jump into the whip (taxi) with the two girls on the way to my place first - red head tells her friend she’ll nestle with me instead whilst in the car, something about coffee, sugar, or an omlette i can’t remember. super.

and then the incident - the epitome of rubbishness.

arrive at my place, whip out the wallet, complete with black cards and assortment of other poser material :smiley:, and would you believe i have no cash. non.

the taxi man doesn’t take cards - oh jeese - driving around looking for a point - man.

anywho the nite ended well :slight_smile:, despite…the slight hiccup

a little dissapointment with turn up the heat x2, only one definate intense hit. very visibly aroused, very very visibly.

will edit better later - chewing some fat now

p.s most ladies seem really undecided on who they like, i.e be too easily (generally) turned

went out again yesterday…again, usual combo 3 sprays of io ness 5 dabs of apha 314 to the neck and rists, and turn up the heat…

anywho…out and about drinking, dancing talking…

met some nice guys and girls…

a group of girls followed me to the next venue..

just remember..drinking alot…buying everyone cristal champagne (drunk)…

end up taking some nice girls back to my friends yacht, girls definitely interested in my turn up the heat.

anywho - had to leave too much alcho..some girl was following me..

but kinda ruined everything when i fell in the river.

but kinda ruined everything when i fell in the river.

That sucks!
Did she help?
Made me laugh!

She was in shock, man ridiculous, t total from now me thinks.

p.s think i’ve found a good combo

1/3 IO
1/3 TUTH X2
1/3 ARMANI
5 DROPS ALPHA 314

All in a togo bottle, been getting allot of ioi’s eye contact mainly from randoms walking by. Read something about eye contact use in a PUA forum, so gave it a whirl with this girl i met in the shop.

sprayed my combo, earlier in the day (3hrs before)

Man putty, ROI?: all smiles, red faced - brilliant!

So going to add IS x 4 to the mix - probably separately on top of hands - or do you think that’s overdoing it?

not really related, but bumped into a fellow phero user a little while ago. in the shop buying some fags (we sometime call cigarettes fags in the UK - brings a whole new meaning to the phrase, sucking on a fag).

anywho, minding my own business, peacefully buying the fags, about to leave the shop and this random 20-23yr old girl jumps right in front of me as i open the door to exit, kinda blocking my path (think she was testing the pheros).

oh man, such a powerful response - kinda felts like bending her over the shelf in broad daylight. i wonder what she was wearing

thanks for the advice - definitely going to try ammo - hey do you know what’s in it.

love shine absolutely - usually spray on top of hand and smell it all day + brilliant scent.