i applied 2 spray istant openness, honesty and 1 sprays of instant female magic and 2 sprays of turn up the heat
but i didnt notice anything special, there was a girl showing up at the buss that didnt know us but started talking to my friend, and i wanted to say a few things but she seemed to ignore me, i dont i oded tough because my other friends were very friendly
then another very hot girl i was talking too but she didnt seem intrested in me for you know what
cover scent! especially with instant female magic.
Why did the girl talk to your friend. Because of Your mones I believe,
basically he stole your signature; you have to act congruent with your signature or else someone else will benefit from it. I’ve seen it myself.
Girls sniffing the air getting really horny and jumping on their boyfriend in front of me.
forgot to add those are all togo bottles
i’m not sure, the second girl i was talking too i was with alone a while somewhere in the bar we went to first, we talked a little and then she went to my other friend, so i dunno wheter i should have gotten hits or not, i would have expected eye contact from other girls or something
any suggestions?
i dont know why it didnt work as planned, strange, cuz the combo looks good.
Try to oh wait wait wait wait wait. There was no androsterone!!!
You need androsterone to be more manly and suave, really gets them going.
Try the exact same mix with 3 drops of a314 or 3 sprays of instant gentleman.
Then thank me later.
Good luck
i wanted to do that first but i was thinking A314 + turn up the heat might be overkill? also is a cover cologne enough to prevent your signature to be stolen? might have been because my friend is pretty good looking, and the sexy signature might be attributed to him
Ding…ding…ding…WINNER…WINNER…WINNER!!
yesterday i used 2 drops A314, 2 sprays turn up the heat, 2 sprays instant honesty, 2 sprays instant female magic and 1 spray instant shine (all togo bottles) but i didnt notice anything, was talking to a few girls but not extra attention or eye contact at all 
First let me tell you that is a whole lot of mones you have on. Have you tested them individually to know which each one will do before mixing them all together? If not that is one MAJOR mistake right there my friend!
TUTH is very particular in its use and stays around for a while, so if you are wearing more than a day in a row, you are most likely building up and OD.
Its not something that goes away,
Are you making eye contact, because from your post it sounds as if you are standing off to the side somewhere and expecting the girl to make eye contact and approach. We’ve all been there, but when my friend mentioned congruency he means are you going and talking to women and being ALPHA, or are you expecting the girl to be ALPHA?
A314 puts off a very celebrity vibe. Most people want autographs of celebrities, but wont stand around and chat with them. Again from your post it seems like you want the tool (pheromones) to do all the work and aren’t making an effort to do the work using the tool. I hope I’m wrong, but from your post thats what it seems like.
We were not there so we cannot give totally accurate advice.
Two things:
Use less pheromones at first, it doesn’t work by just throwing a bunch of sprays on and going. Find what works well for you first and what the sweet spots for application are.
Your friend may have had better style, better game, better body language, better tonality, voice, pronounciation ect. Having pheromones is like having a brand new stylish shirt – it’s a tool – an edge in your arsenol. However it looks like your friend may have had several more “tools” than you – and may have even benefited from the pheromones as well.
I would recommend you check out my blog and get your game together, it will make the pheromones much more complementary.
i do make eye contact and i do start talking with girls but i know when a girl seems interested or not
Thats a very aggressive mix, try reducing the -none content while keeping everything else the same…
It also depends on age, race, blood type, genetics, etc, on how much none you emit but you simply may be turning women on too much without enough comfort. That will make most females not want to be around you or if they are around you, to be nervous and only send out subtle IOIs… Either case, your wearing 5mcg of -none from the Turn up the Heat PLUS the small amount of none in the A314, so my theory is that its counterproductive…
i used it before without a314 but it didnt work either, so i got suggested to add that one in lol
Really? That’s interesting, because every time Ive ever had an interaction with a lady, I had to make them interested in me.
Look no one is trying to break you down, but you asked for advice and so far everyone of us that has given you advice you just kind of brush us off. So please tell me how you know when a women “seems” interested or not? This really intrigues me, because I know whenever I used my judgment to believe a woman was or was not interested I would always be left out in the cold. Now I believe everyone is interested regardless what my mind is saying (its usually run-away SteveO she could never like you) and yet somehow I go home with more women than most guys dream of. The best part about that is I’m very selective. Go figure.
The key is regardless what the mind says I keep plowing forward. FIRE might have some good advice for you, as his blog is pretty damn good.
So if someone on here says try this and it doesn’t work, then try something different or don’t. That choice is yours. Again we are just trying to help. So my advice: stop mixing all those molecules in one shot, or be very certain you completely understand what they can and cant do on their own, let alone a complex mix.
SteveO is right on as usual.
MeDieViL suffers from a poor self image and what we call poor “inner game”. He bought these products to bypass that problem and is now upsett because he is finding that his inner game problems are still wreaking havoc.
First off his lack of discipline and need for instant gratification have him throwing on a bunch of complex pheromones without doing the proper research or having the patience to do it correctly.
Second is the fact that he views other men as a threat. When a man starts interacting with a girl he likes and she shows some interest in him his brain immediately and animalistically launches into all kinds of negative connototions and meanings behind it. The pheromones dont work, she doesnt like me as much as she likes him, I suck and he is better looking. ect ect.
Then there are people like Steveo and me – who unless we are having a really bad day would basically think something like:
“Oh how cute – she is trying to make me jealous, she must really like me”
or
Wow my friend is doing well, I gotta hang out and learn from and observe this guy more to see what he does differently.
There are plenty of other more productive thoughts too. Instead our friend Medevil is taking the easy road out – the same road that has brought him to the place in his life that he is at right now. Pointing the finger, playing the blame game, being the victum.
Medievil I have been where your at and I realize how it feels to feel like all the woman like your friends better than they like you no matter what you do – but it gets better – if you take the right attitude. I think everyone has given solid advices to you in regards to not only pheromones but also other things you can do so that you don’t have to feel this way anymore.
Hmmm I think your being rather rude, harsh and judgmental and SteveO didnt allude to alot of those statements in his post. While what you have said holds true for some people you cant possibly know that about him from the short little post he has made.
TUTH causes one thing, arousal not attraction. Just because you arouse doesn’t mean they are going to act on that arousal. The bus is not the environment for using it most effectively. Clubs,Bars, Parties and dates in these places women are looking for the arousal and in a mental state to deal with the emotion. At the bus stop we are not so forget what happened there.
At the Bar… Mones help open doors but you need to walk through the door and make a move. Perhaps your friend walked though that door first. You need to also keep in mind that mones are only a small part of attraction. There are other factors to consider. Visual attraction, I am not saying your friend is better looking. We all have different tastes in men and that plays a factor and likely played a factor here. Compatibility, perhaps they felt from talking with your friend that they had more in common with him. This doesn’t mean every girl will feel this way. When out with friends look at the whole picture. I wear mones and go out with friends but sometimes they get hit on by a particular person and I dont. They didn’t steal my mone sig or do anything better then me. Maybe that particular person is more partial to brunettes or doesn’t like tall girls or something. Mones are just part of the picture.
Something else I would like to mention, your mix is a bit unbalanced. Go heavier on the socials and back off the TUTH a bit to one spray split on the body. Go for connection first then arousal. Did you wear A314 with this mix ? I see it mentioned but in your first post you didn’t mention it. A314 ups your status but its not as strong on attraction and if you did use it with this mix it could have been overkill on the masculines.
Whether or not she seems interested you should be making a effort or move. Women are notorious for deliberately showing lack of interest. They do it to gain your interest. I laugh when I see these PUA tactics men think they invented. We have been using them since the gods created women, we are born with them. If you dont believe me watch a little 5 year girl manipulate her daddy.
The main thing to remember is that this mix just is not cutting it for you. It happens to all of us even Fire and Ice LOL, I have mixes that work great for the other girls and dont do a damn thing for me. Tweak the mix.
1 spray of TUTH split to upper body …arouse
1 spray of IFM …put at ease
3 sprays of IH …connect
3 sprays of IO … draw them in
applied in that order. Keep in mind the IO which you applied last will hit first.
Tisha
allright thx for advice, its just that i try to talk to girls but they rather seem to wonna talk to someone else, should i keep trying to talk to them then?
i’l also try less pheromones at the same time
and i act very confident by the way so i dunno thats the problem
Dude you can’t be acting all that confident if on the inside you feel like girls would rather talk to someone OTHER than you. That’s not confident thinking, that’s INSECURE thinking.
Maybe your overcompensating too and being obnoxious and the women dont want to talk to you – maybe because you think they dont want to talk to you they can tell your trying too hard to act confident OR not really acting as confident as you feel you are – I dont know. All I can do is to speculate based on the common things that I see with my students and wings. I just know that by the way you write and what you say that you have some issues in the way you think and your attitude on things. Perhaps your doing something wrong. Definately try to be more responsible and systematic with the pheromones and try to take a hard look at yourself and figure out what these other guys are doing differently that may make them funner to talk to – Instead of just saying girls don’t like me, they seem to like to talk to other guys more than me, these pheromones dont work for me – whoa is me. Be more constructive and productive with your thinking instead.
Steveo, Tisha, and others have given great ideas moving forward in regards to the pheromones.
LOL!!! So true. That’s why it never pays to try to outgame a girl or view her as an opponent, it usually ends in disaster. It’s better to be authentic and congruent and to focus on the things you can control about yourself and the things that define who you are and what you want. Women “invented” the game guys. Their immense feminine power is not to be denied. 
i’m not thinking like that at all, its just observation, i think i’m sexy at the club, and i think this girl gotta like me, but then i see that she doesnt seem interested in talking too me (ok i maybe wrong then) and then she kisses another guy