picking sexy products -whats your intention?

[Lor]

im not writing this to debate the topic,
only to share a point of view in hopes that you do too.

men and women get their engines revving in different ways.

if you are the chick that can look at a pic of a shirtless man and instant want to have sex, this is not intended for you.

honestly, i require a challenge and photographs dont do it.

maybe its because im in an industry where i see goodlooking guys often enough to know that sometimes when they open their mouth, i have to muster motivation just to serve them.

::yawn::

men can have a visual and sometimes thats all thats necessary.

i think alot of women will agree that when we arent feeling our prettiest/happiest/satisfied-with-life ,
we are not feeling sexual. visuals wont get us there.
period.

sexual pheromones to me then serve 2 purposes;
one-
if i wear a mix or two that cause a guy to notice me and then act on that attraction, i feel attractive.
two-
if i wear a mix or two that motivates socialization and mellows out my stress, im more likely to feel sexier.

pheromones rarely then cause me to be overwhelmed with horniness, unless there are actions on behalf of the guy wearing them that lead me in that direction
(i.e. i cant whiff a bottle and get arroused without my man present)

i think what inspired me to write this was the confusion on part of newer members to choose mixes or putatives based on some of the findings in the womens forum.

what works for any one of us gals here is totally based on what her motivation/intention was, and then how it all played out.
sometimes we all get different reactions from the same putative,for instance.

for this reason i think the connection between our present state of mind and what we used to get what reaction is important in making any choices here*.*

with this said,
what were your intentions when buying a product, and how did it play out?
what made sex better and why?
what kind of mixes do you hope come about, what do you hope they will do?

im personally awaiting a new cop mix.
im hoping it will stomp-out hesitancy on my guys part.

[tisha23]

Ok this is where my training kicks in LOL

I agree with you men are visual in fact this is often what I tell members in the intro section when they ask about what mones should they use to increase sex in a relationship

Men are visual they see something they like, become aroused , have sex and then they feel a connection to that women. Its how they feel inimate.

Women are different, we see something we like, look for that connection or feeling of intimacy become aroused then we have sex.

Most women wont progress to sex without that feeling of connection security first.

We men and women approach arousal differently. It is more difficult for the men though.

Women are emotionally driven. Men are visually driven. Both sexes use both of the “drivers” to become aroused but its the acting on that arousal that is different.

Now a hot guy can arouse me dosnt mean I will act on that arousal though. I may admire it LOL But it would take alot more then looking like Johnny Depp to get me to become intimate.

i think alot of women will agree that when we arent feeling our prettiest/happiest/satisfied-with-life ,
we are not feeling sexual. visuals wont get us there.
period.

I agree with this to. sexy is a state of mind

pheromones rarely then cause me to be overwhelmed with horniness, unless there are actions on behalf of the guy wearing them that lead me in that direction
(i.e. i cant whiff a bottle and get arroused without my man present)

This point we differ on. Pertaining to pure arousal, just the emotion without action…
I can smell TUTH and it makes me aroused but not for anyone in particular. Usually I will think of my husband of course but I dont need him there to feel it. I am high maintance sexually though. Its not that I am visual but a set of nice forearms can get my blood pumping. Scents can arouse me. Sounds can arouse me. Course none of these things alone will make me do ya though LOL I believe arosual derives from all of our senses it just differes in how we fufill those desires and emotions. Hope I explained that right LOL.

i think what inspired me to write this was the confusion on part of newer members to choose mixes or putatives based on some of the findings in the womens forum.

In the intro section we ask alot of questions for this reason. Finding out about the person and their situation. Their personality and needs helps a great deal in suggesting a mix. What we suggest for women is different from what we suggest for men though.

With the women all they need is something arousing, something that grabs attention and focus. Men generally take it from there. Sometimes you find different problems that could be effecting the situation but its rare.

With men its different. TUTH alone wont get them there. Sometimes its the connection and comfort that needs to be addressed and this is where they go wrong with something like TUTH.

I think new people are jumping to fast on the putatives. Myself and Lor come from the early days here when you didnt touch those till you had some solid mone experience with the proven molecules.

with this said,
what were your intentions when buying a product, and how did it play out?
what made sex better and why?
what kind of mixes do you hope come about, what do you hope they will do?

These are excellent questions. The last one helps alot in letting androtics know what we want. I was surprised when I started doing the intro section how many women did want sexual products. It was more then I thought it would be.

For myself … I am hoping for more attentive romantic mixes, I have my sex mixes down already. I can whip up a sexual mix easy but steering mens emotions to a more romance In love feeling would be cool.

Tisha

[Tigerlilly]

@Lor

sexual pheromones to me then serve 2 purposes;
one-
if i wear a mix or two that cause a guy to notice me and then act on that attraction, i feel attractive.
two-
if i wear a mix or two that motivates socialization and mellows out my stress, im more likely to feel sexier.

pheromones rarely then cause me to be overwhelmed with horniness, unless there are actions on behalf of the guy wearing them that lead me in that direction
(i.e. i cant whiff a bottle and get arroused without my man present)

…

with this said,
what were your intentions when buying a product, and how did it play out?
what made sex better and why?
what kind of mixes do you hope come about, what do you hope they will do?

As a new user myself (and one who has greatly benefited from your wisdom), I totally agree with your purposes above. Going into this, I knew that pheros were not “mind altering” drugs, designed to sweep a man off his feet and into my bedroom, only to wear off and have him sneak away into the night wondering how he got there and why… I had a TG that I was attracted to and wanted a bit of an edge. There was mutual mild interest and I wanted to see how that could play out with some additional “motivation.” (Social pheros, IS’s etc) Seems to be working quite well. When I wear the pheros and I am NOT around my TG, I do not feel a raw, sexual need to hump my office chair. (nor do I when I am around him either…) It makes me feel more attractive, more noticed, more focused on by my TG. it puts me in (and him) in a better frame of mind to explore our mutual attraction… at least, thats been my reaction so far.

I am not wearing anything with heavy cops in it though. I am only using stuff with trace amounts. I have ordered EOW and hope to try it out (in very small quantities) if we do go on a date. I dont know how that will change/if it will change. Haven’t had the sex with the TG (yet?!) or on Pheros so can’t comment on that. Seems to be made more intense though by using EOW, so I’d like to give it a try.

I’m still too new to be really looking into the future and picking and choosing what I want and why. I’m still learning. But so far, with my expectations - everything has been golden!

[diane999]

@tisha23

Ok this is where my training kicks in LOL

I agree with you men are visual in fact this is often what I tell members in the intro section when they ask about what mones should they use to increase sex in a relationship

Men are visual they see something they like, become aroused , have sex and then they feel a connection to that women. Its how they feel inimate.

Women are different, we see something we like, look for that connection or feeling of intimacy become aroused then we have sex.

Most women wont progress to sex without that feeling of connection security first.

We men and women approach arousal differently. It is more difficult for the men though.

Women are emotionally driven. Men are visually driven. Both sexes use both of the “drivers” to become aroused but its the acting on that arousal that is different.

Now a hot guy can arouse me dosnt mean I will act on that arousal though. I may admire it LOL But it would take alot more then looking like Johnny Depp to get me to become intimate.

I agree with this to. sexy is a state of mind

This point we differ on. Pertaining to pure arousal, just the emotion without action…
I can smell TUTH and it makes me aroused but not for anyone in particular. Usually I will think of my husband of course but I dont need him there to feel it. I am high maintance sexually though. Its not that I am visual but a set of nice forearms can get my blood pumping. Scents can arouse me. Sounds can arouse me. Course none of these things alone will make me do ya though LOL I believe arosual derives from all of our senses it just differes in how we fufill those desires and emotions. Hope I explained that right LOL.

In the intro section we ask alot of questions for this reason. Finding out about the person and their situation. Their personality and needs helps a great deal in suggesting a mix. What we suggest for women is different from what we suggest for men though.

With the women all they need is something arousing, something that grabs attention and focus. Men generally take it from there. Sometimes you find different problems that could be effecting the situation but its rare.

With men its different. TUTH alone wont get them there. Sometimes its the connection and comfort that needs to be addressed and this is where they go wrong with something like TUTH.

I think new people are jumping to fast on the putatives. Myself and Lor come from the early days here when you didnt touch those till you had some solid mone experience with the proven molecules.

These are excellent questions. The last one helps alot in letting androtics know what we want. I was surprised when I started doing the intro section how many women did want sexual products. It was more then I thought it would be.

For myself … I am hoping for more attentive romantic mixes, I have my sex mixes down already. I can whip up a sexual mix easy but steering mens emotions to a more romance In love feeling would be cool.

Tisha

EST

Diane

[Lor]

i get the whole “love-fostering” thing.

thats always frosting on the cake.

i was thinking it would be fun and exciting to find a putative or mix that automatically puts you both on the same page…

like, if one of us is thinking one way and the other is somewhere else on the topic, there might be a pheromone that creates an emotional compromise.
and maybe a sexual one,too.

'none might make me want sex more, or copulins may up his drive, but is there something that levels the field for both ?

or

he may be angry/irritated-
im in a great mood-

how about something that changes the focus from a subject-matter to an ideal ?

omg.
am i looking for the enlightenment-mone?

we feel enlightened after sex,right?

ok i lost myself.

[remmy]

@Lor

i get the whole “love-fostering” thing.

thats always frosting on the cake.

i was thinking it would be fun and exciting to find a putative or mix that automatically puts you both on the same page…

like, if one of us is thinking one way and the other is somewhere else on the topic, there might be a pheromone that creates an emotional compromise.
and maybe a sexual one,too.

'none might make me want sex more, or copulins may up his drive, but is there something that levels the field for both ?

or

he may be angry/irritated-
im in a great mood-

how about something that changes the focus from a subject-matter to an ideal ?

omg.
am i looking for the enlightenment-mone?

we feel enlightened after sex,right?

ok i lost myself.

i might be completely wrong on this.. but if you are looking for that enlightened type of pheros, i think TAF might come close to that..

low dose TAF makes me aware of the surroundings and it makes people aware of you. my TG cant wait to ask if something’s the matter with TAF on if i have a slightest pout. i can also pick up on what other people are feeling more easily. of course, too much TAF, then that effect is gone since then you would feel like you have ADD (at least to me)

ive never tried this combo myself, but TAF with EST might be the best thing there is for this kind of feeling, as long as you stir it right. maybe throw in a p83 for good measure.

remmy

[Lor]

@remmy

i might be completely wrong on this.. but if you are looking for that enlightened type of pheros, i think TAF might come close to that..

low dose TAF makes me aware of the surroundings and it makes people aware of you. my TG cant wait to ask if something’s the matter with TAF on if i have a slightest pout. i can also pick up on what other people are feeling more easily. of course, too much TAF, then that effect is gone since then you would feel like you have ADD (at least to me)

ive never tried this combo myself, but TAF with EST might be the best thing there is for this kind of feeling, as long as you stir it right. maybe throw in a p83 for good measure.

remmy

thanks remmy.

i have played with TAF, and aware is good …
but it doesnt quite level the field for both players, one is always aware of the other with F but not vibrating in the same chord…

i do think your on to something with EST mixed with magical putatives for balance.

think of 2 people on acid being guided by a groovy song from the 60’s and reaching the same conclusions and mental images simply by listening to a song and resonating together…

um,does that make sense?

[SteveO]

@Lor

one is always aware of the other with F but not vibrating in the same chord…

LOL Lor is a Perv

Oh and I made this thread sticky

[diane999]

@Lor

thanks remmy.

i have played with TAF, and aware is good …
but it doesnt quite level the field for both players, one is always aware of the other with F but not vibrating in the same chord…

i do think your on to something with EST mixed with magical putatives for balance.

think of 2 people on acid being guided by a groovy song from the 60’s and reaching the same conclusions and mental images simply by listening to a song and resonating together…

um,does that make sense?

For my husband and myself a combination of Meo-Est and EST puts us both in a loving mood. There are more hugs, more positive comments, more kisses, etc. Throw in a good dose of Beta Androstenol and we also get that deeply connected and understood feeling with each other without the need to explain everything to death. And then add TAF to make everything seem like the first time… and P86 for beauty and P96 for “feel-good” - works wonders. Just like puppy-love.

But, I haven’t found a single pheromone that puts us both in a sexual mood 100% of the time.

P80 with Meo-Est and EST comes close, because it gives us both over the top physical stimulation to the lightest touches, and electrifies kisses, but even it is not a clincher. Even with P102 and P103 to both sex up meo-est for me, and cops to sex up est for him - isn’t foolproof. Even adding P79 to spike the mix and make it surprising doesn’t work all the time. And androstenone is hit or miss, or both!

I think that part of the problem is that humans just don’t have pheromones that are behavioral “releasers” - unlike many other animals. We have tons of pheromones that influence our psychological state, spark interest, make us feel good - or bad, but nothing that is going to override that frontal cortex. And even though you can set the stage and make things more likely to happen there is no guarantee that all the staging in the world will translate to action. We are too complex for that.

Diane

[Whitehall]

I’d say that a search for a pheromone peace treaty for the Battle of the Sexes is not likely to fruitful. Our gender imperatives will always differ although there may be a way to make us more cooperative in achieving them.

[Lor]

@diane999

For my husband and myself a combination of Meo-Est and EST puts us both in a loving mood. There are more hugs, more positive comments, more kisses, etc. Throw in a good dose of Beta Androstenol and we also get that deeply connected and understood feeling with each other without the need to explain everything to death. And then add TAF to make everything seem like the first time… and P86 for beauty and P96 for “feel-good” - works wonders. Just like puppy-love.

But, I haven’t found a single pheromone that puts us both in a sexual mood 100% of the time.

P80 with Meo-Est and EST comes close, because it gives us both over the top physical stimulation to the lightest touches, and electrifies kisses, but even it is not a clincher. Even with P102 and P103 to both sex up meo-est for me, and cops to sex up est for him - isn’t foolproof. Even adding P79 to spike the mix and make it surprising doesn’t work all the time. And androstenone is hit or miss, or both!

I think that part of the problem is that humans just don’t have pheromones that are behavioral “releasers” - unlike many other animals. We have tons of pheromones that influence our psychological state, spark interest, make us feel good - or bad, but nothing that is going to override that frontal cortex. And even though you can set the stage and make things more likely to happen there is no guarantee that all the staging in the world will translate to action. We are too complex for that.

Diane

damn our complexity,diane !

im not giving up,however.

just realized thanks to you that i have yet to play with meo-est
(unless i have and just dont know it yet!)

your mixes sound really interesting, i wouldnt be surprised though if eventually we hit the nail on the head dead-center.
probably closer than we know.

i intuitively feel there is a synergy we havent discovered yet thats bigger than alot of whats here already, i mean i feel it in my gutt.

part of the reason im grateful for being here.

[diane999]

@Lor

damn our complexity,diane !

im not giving up,however.

just realized thanks to you that i have yet to play with meo-est
(unless i have and just dont know it yet!)

your mixes sound really interesting, i wouldnt be surprised though if eventually we hit the nail on the head dead-center.
probably closer than we know.

i intuitively feel there is a synergy we havent discovered yet thats bigger than alot of whats here already, i mean i feel it in my gutt.

part of the reason im grateful for being here.

Awesome!

Diane

[Whitehall]

BTW, on Diane’s advice, I’ve just ordered MEO-EST and Beta A-nol.

I’ll add that to some EoW, TAH, P103, Pink Candy cover, and maybe some P83 and a drop of NPA to see if we can edge closer to gender UNITY.

[Lor]

@Whitehall

BTW, on Diane’s advice, I’ve just ordered MEO-EST and Beta A-nol.

I’ll add that to some EoW, TAF, P103, Pink Candy cover, and maybe some P83 and a drop of NPA to see if we can edge closer to gender UNITY.

definately post about it

[Whitehall]

My test mix gets its first try out tonight. I made two versions that differ in the cover scent. One uses Pink Candy and the other Creed Spring Flowers. These will have about a 24 hour settling time before application. the Pink Candy mix is in a vial for pouring or dabbing while the Creed mix is in a fresh, empty to-go sprayer.

1 ml cover cologne
1 ml EoW - current production
1 ml TAH - 10 mcg/spray from 30 ml bottle
5 sprays - MEO-EST - 12.5 mcg per spray
5 sprays - beta-androstenol - 25 mcg per spray
3 sprays - P103 - 12.5 mcg per spray
3 sprays - P83 - 12.5 mcg per spray

(sprays all from togo bottles except as noted)

Of course, the responses might have something to do with the dozen red roses I sent to her office today as an early St. Valentine’s Day present.

I’ll probably wear TUTH all over and some Instant Honesty to the head hair.

Any female opinions on the relative powers of TUTH vs Instant Jerk in the bedroom?

[Whitehall]

For the Creed Spring Flowers mix, it needs more cover scent or less EoW. I don’t think it does as well in that regard as Pink Candy. More dry-down would have helped too.

I’ll spare all you curious ladies the evening’s salacious details other than to say it did NOT hinder or diminish the fun.

[Lor]

@Whitehall

For the Creed Spring Flowers mix, it needs more cover scent or less EoW. I don’t think it does as well in that regard as Pink Candy. More dry-down would have helped too.

I’ll spare all you curious ladies the evening’s salacious details other than to say it did NOT hinder or diminish the fun.

hinder or diminish???
i was assuming there would be some crazy testosterone flowin’
along with some crushing and “vocal” approvals or disapprovals!

[Whitehall]

It was ALL good! Lot’s of sweaty energy from both parties.

[diane999]

@Whitehall

It was ALL good! Lot’s of sweaty energy from both parties.

You’re a little shy, aren’t ya?

Diane

[Whitehall]

@diane999

You’re a little shy, aren’t ya?

Diane

Ma’am,

If you would like the details of my evening in exciting Technicolor, just email or PM me with a naughty photo(s) of yourself.

Otherwise, it just wouldn’t be a fair exchange…

I do owe an analysis to all of the how I could relate the pheromones used to behavior. On this, I’d have to do some more, extensive and intensive field work before I could present useful conclusions.