The men’s pheromones are working great for me, but I’m always open to try new ideas.
It’s been mentioned before that some men use womens products in their mixes. I’m just curious, whah products do you use and what effects do you get from them?
Some men probably hear how certain womens pheromones affect women more effectively than some mens product like instant femal magic. Maybe some men want to experiment on how the pheromones affetct themselves or the men around them or pherhaps thet are simplly homosexual.
Yes, so guys use more women pheromones with some good results since women are more confortable, but since it is a guy, they wont really understand but just feel better around.
Dirty is another example, but more like that you have just been just one or more women 
Look up the Social Proofing thread in the Theory section sometime. Wearing womens pheromones will not make you look gay or look like a woman. I think it also depends on the women’s pheromones you are wearing, and the men’s pheromones you are wearing as well, what the effect is like.
I have experimented with Copulins and may try Instant Sexiness B in the future. One caveat about copulins, if you wear enough of it you will get looks from guys. These are not sexual looks, these are more like they are uneasy with you, like you are big bright dot on their radars. I’ve also noticed a slight unease in some coversations with guys. Women seem a little friendlier around the stuff but it’s not a huge difference. Also, copulins can raise testosterone and make you act a bit like a jerk in high enough doses.
Now days I rarely wear copulins, I just don’t care for the effect so much at regular doses, and after several days heavy (1 drop) use, it can cause a bit of a negative feeling, that would be my guess. It can also raise testosterone in women, too, in large doses. Maybe I’ll wear 1/4 drop EoW at most. Instant Sexiness appears to have low copulins, too, so it might be something to try.
thoughts on the matter-
Some guys are overly masculine to begin with and need a little something to take the edge off and make them appear softer.
I have been toying with and planning on experimenting with them in situations where I work with women who are lesbian. As my natural mix and maleness seems to make them uncomfortable, very standoffish or generally agitated toward me. Not that I want to make them straight or anything but it is easier to work with people who are open or at least mildly friendly.
Dirty’s out of stock and I think Instant Jerk would be too much of a -none OD. What copulin products have you used in the past?
Woofie, I run into the same problems too sometimes.
One of the Experimones - TAL - is sometimes useful for guys. TAL basically makes women more straight forward, so if you are dealing with a kinda shy woman and wear a little TAL (which should be masked with masuline pheromones) it can make her become more confident and, if she’s into you, easier to act on her desires… 
Hi GuySajer,
thank you for this thread as it’s quite interesting. In past I tested some TAH myself too. As Bubble said, I expected to get some effects on the women aorund me, but the results were really close to a failure. Anyway, it was really worth the test. At least now I know that TAH kills AMMO. It was worth to know ;-). Both of them combined is a ghost effect. I thikn that many of those that use female pheros are expecing to be “carrier” of the pheros and to have some effects on the females aorund them. I learn from my mistakes ;-)!!!
See ya
Franz
I asked and found very little, but data4 suggeted Dirty,
so I am working on making my own to try.
Yeah, I was really wanting to try Dirty, then it got discontinued. Maybe I could get away with Instant Jerk, if I added a bunch of social buffers, but I tend to unintentionally come across as a jerk already so I don’t know…
Any guys tried Lust After Me?
I think men will have more success with the womens mones if they approach it the same way the women do when we use male mones.
Very small amounts just to steer the mix.
For example anone (not a womens mone) When we wear a heavy sexual mix we will apply a few dabs of TUTH. This arouses us and makes men more sexually aggressive.
If you use female mones try it in just dabs not sprays and always use it with a male mix your familar with. If you make your self familar with what each female molecule does you can use them to steer your own mixes in a certain direction.
Tisha
I think men have an easier time wearing women’s pheromones than the reverse, because of dimorphic reproductive strategies. Nevertheless, I think its better to wear too little than too much, fractional amounts. And, there are plenty of neutral or masculine pheromones that can elicit more effects, such as TAC or TAK, all without “crossing” over.
The theory behind “social proofing” is that you are “safer” because suppossedly you have been around, or even slept with, other women, and it is totally subconscious/biological, and not really necessarily a conscious reaction. I’m not sure how important it really is, but that’s the theory.
As I said, other pheromones like TAK can make you appear “safe”, or at least get under peoples radars, and they work both on men and women. Copulins can be a turn-off for other men, and even make them a bit uneasy or hostile.
Yes, Woofie, definitely! And you can still wear A314 and dress alpha, too.
I wear TAL and TAH (or IS/A) when I am going to be somewhere that is an uncomfortably feminine environment. When I go to the massage institute this makes a huge difference. I don’t know if they are all feminists and hippies or not, but it sure feels that way. Here I am a damn Republican in a business suit. It makes a huge difference.
I also find they help at a strip club. Dancers are notoriously bisexual. Tater says bisexual woman like TAL and TAH but not TAA. I can see where with a Lesbian decreasing personal distance (i.e. making her feel closer to a man) might backfire. So Instant Shine doesn’t work for Woofie’s Lesbians. Instant Honesty OTOH is more about intellectual than physical distance.
In my experience TAL and TAH go better together than alone. You can experiment with the balance. Or just use one of the Instant Sexiness formulas. With TAL and TAH you can avoid the copulins, if you wish. The only thing I’ve noticed about copulins is they make me horny. Maybe you don’t wanna be horny around Lesbians.
TAL is said to be good for LMR.
Heterosexual women seem to react well to TAL/TAH. Women who don’t know you often give a bewildered look to a man wearing TAH. A couple of us have noticed that. If anyone figures it out, please let us know. Tisha says A314 with TAL/TAH makes a man a prince. Maybe so.
That’s about the size of it.
But you feel more like a delivery man taking garlic bread to a house of vampires.
IH seems to help more with some IO, and I am trying some IG on them soon.
Hadn’t thought of that, maybe I should take my video camera in my car just in case.
Reading the women’s posts, apparrently TAL can have subjectively negative effects similar to A314 in men (“boss” effect). I wonder if TAL on a man would elicit a similar reaction? Would TAH be safer, or perhaps TAL causes a kind of reaction when men wear it that is different than when a woman wears it? Perhaps it’s a matter of dosage. Admittedly, this area is under-explored and under-investigated.
Also, again I find TAK or WAGG useful in situations where I will be entering unknown territory, but it isn’t a female product. It’s very good for taking the “edge” off. In my next order, perhaps I will order TAL or TAH and experiment with them to compare the effects. I do have access to some Instant Sexiness B, perhaps I’ll try that, too. Perhaps TAK is making something, whereas TAL is adding something? I can’t say that TAK makes me feel less masculine, although it does seem to be “non-threatening” moreso.
Also, I’ve noticed wearing TAK I get more eye contact with women. Not a huge difference but it is noticeable. Anybody notice anything similar with TAL or TAH?
Yes, I think so. I do not have and incidents to report, but when I wear TAL without TAH, I am more snippy with people. Things don’t go as smoothy. You might say I am more inclined to be bitchy. This is one of the reasons I believe TAL and TAH should be worn together.
With TAH there is that bewilderment thing with female strangers. I don’t know what it is. Just to take a shot in the dark – since nobody else has any hypotheses: When I wear TAH, a woman senses a helpless little kitten needing to be taken care of, but she sees a grown man in a suit and tie. Bewildering, yes? What is he trying to pull?
TAK makes us see that even though we may have differences they aren’t any big deal in the greater scheme of things. TAL/TAH make me feel I have something in common with women that other men don’t. I’m part of the sorority, the sole honorary male member.
Yes, I think I get more eye contact with TAL/TAH.
TAL and TAH when worn by a man without the correct masculine pheromones and dosage simply brings out a mans feminine qualities.
A small amount of these pheromones with a heavy masculine product can make you a prince which is attractive to a women.
To much will send you into the friend zone rapidly and turn you into a princess.
Keep in mind how MHarris uses the more feminine pheromones in a mix. Yes they do use them in mens mixes but in very low quantities except for one product in which they use heavy amounts of both TAL and TAH along with other masculine pheromones Mystery Boy.
Its not really harder for women to wear mens pheromones but the same thing can happen. Wearing a small amount can enhance the mix but to much and you come off as Butch.
So I think using mones classified to the opposite gender can be very useful and give a mix positive effects you just need to be more careful with dosage.
Tisha
Better a prince than a toad, as Girls don’t go around kissing toads anymore.
the womens mix mx 135 [2 shots] with a shot of ammo and a couple of shots instant gentlemen has consistantly created a warm friendly chatty and at the same time sexy vibe. i’ve had hits and ioi s from all age groups of women.