2 tuth neck
2 openess arms
2 honesty arms
2-3 IFM arms
the brothers of my girlfriend told me that I stink hehe
First one said : dont you put deodorant ?
second: man you smell like piss and like a (editted) !
hehe
what the fuck !!
the nols stink dog piss for sure .How can I buffer them ???
I go usually with TUTH ,ammo ,a314 nowdays pure none but after that incident I dont think Ill ever put nols again !!!
PISS …yahhh
you should wear a cologne cover
turn up the heat is none - piss smell
instant female magic - has a horrible smell but not everyone can smell it
and instant openness also smells bad after the neroli wears off
end result wear a cover just need 2-3 sprays of any cologne you like
Well anols usually are not the pissy smelling mones. Anone smells like piss to some men. I find anol smells like dirty feet.
The neroli helps cover and the binding and diffusion properties are in the scent pack but if smell is a issue for you just use cover like denec suggested.
You dont want to buffer them you want to cover them. Buffer refers to something else not associated with scent
Tisha
dirty feet smell is much better than piss smell 
but i would smell my arms and indeed would smell piss !!!
I had openess,honesty and IFM on them .
it is strange when someone tells you that you smell like that ,cause you the realize that you do !!!
im telling you
it wasnt the none
i used to wear Primal instinct for years on my neck .never had a piss smell like and it doesnt have any cologne
First things first! Why are you worried about what men say? When that comes from a woman, that’s when you should worry!
Secondly … I’d bet my pink turtle neck sweater that it was the IFM. Cover it with one of the other products … IS or IH. Shake, stir, and apply! 
Hang in there! Experimenting will help you solve your problem. And if you really wanna impress the GUYS, cover your IFM application points.
My two Lincolns … sorry you can’t buy anything with’em. 
i never tried primal instinct so not sure…but in all honesty i would just wear a cologne so you smell good to everyone
I am sure once geogi sees this thread he can give good descriptions on how these really smell
especially a very good cologne like bond no. 9 riverside drive the cheaper colognes seem to give out.
so 3 sprays of any cologne would do the job ?
and you are still telling me that
its the none that smells ?
I insist .the piss smell is nol
none for me is sweat
a good cologne. the cheap colognes give out and funky smell from the pheromone products win out as time passes. what’s a good cologne? ask denec. he lives on basenotes.com
Both urine and sweat have similar compositions to a point.
Alpha androstenol tends to smell like the lighter natural human scent you sometimes smell in a woman’s hair, or around the back of their neck.
While both IFM and any type of androstenone can smell like piss to some people, you seem to be able to use -none products w/o these issues.
Considering what you normally use, deductive reasoning shows it’s the IFM.
A decade ago or so, I occasionally used to get comments from other men that I should shower or wear deodorant back when Erox started putting androstadienone in Realm instead of estratetraenol. This was just an hour or so after being fully showered, and well “deodorized”, mind you. I tend to take long, thorough showers where I work out my thoughts, so I was not unclean in any way.
Wait a minute you said you “would smell your arms and smell piss”
Your not spraying the products to your underarms are you ? Cause if you are that explains a lot of the stink. Not to pits or groin. Bacteria in these areas will rapidly increase a mild unpleasant smell to a stinky mess.
Sometimes washing with antibacterial soap makes the mones less stinky on you to because it gets rid of the converting bacteria on skin at least for a while
You don’t need to use 3 sprays of cologne. I use what works and you have to experiment. Cheep cologne works just as well as expensive cologne but the actual cologne when cheep may not smell that great.
Tisha
First, this is too many mcg of way too many different chemicals for you.
Have you ever tried any of these pheros by themselves?
Oooone at a time. One day, one spray. Next day, two sprays. Observe very carefully. Increase by one a day until you get negative results, then back off one notch. Most products will take you a week or more to figure out.
And you have been at this for how long?
Learn the terms and techniques. Start with sweet spot. Then try to get a grip on things like cover, buffer, diffusion, sillage, layer, and a whole lot more.
Do the searches for different products. Read the threads. Follow the related threads at bottom of the pages. Read, read, read.
Oh and here’s a handy little thread, Mastering the Basics...for beginners
Did I mention read the stickies?
Actually androstenol smells like fresh girl sweat to me, not like dirty feet! Androstenone is not totally piss-like. It also has a slight essence of armpit intermingled with bug spray.
With normal doses I find most of my mones cover well and Asian females approve my scent. Realize artificial mones, once applied to bare skin, are subject to your natural body chemistry. Sweat and skin bacteria can and do change the original mone scents. It could be why your doses are unusually stinky.
To accelerate the breakdown process, spray some TUTH in your armpit. Run around for an hour or two and sniff. The funk should exceed anything you’ve ever experienced from underarm. The same thing is happening on your skin, albeit at a slower pace and will never be that funky unless you only shower every other day…
Man I don’t know if my nose is off but I don’t smell no piss or anything bad in A314…it smells like some type of cologne to me 
A314 is 80% androsterone and that is more sweat like than piss. And, yes, the scent component does a good job of masking it. I can’t smell the mones until the scent mellows a few hours out.
Androstenone, the main mone in TUTH and NPA, is the main one responsible for the urine vibe. A1 scent is milder than androstenone but is a little piss-like too. Many men lack the receptors to detect androstenone, so just because you can’t smell it doesn’t mean others can’t. All women can smell it…
I discovered this urine smell when testing a gel pack of edge recently - not good.
Can someone who has tried all the androtics products tell me what products do not have this kind of fowl smell associated with them?
I’m rather interested in knowing - what actually smells good but also ‘works’ ?
That’s the thing, most pheromones may or may not have a smell to them and that’s why they are covered in scent. Some people also think certain pheromones smell OK, but then others will say the opposite. It all depends on your olfactory sense as well. So just cover them with a good cologne and you’ll be fine, although I think the neroli in Androtics products works just fine for me as a pheromone stink cover. However, as I mentioned, some will still be able to smell the pheromones while others will not be able to.
hAHA
havent been able to find what smells like cat urine !!
Yesterday had 2 ammo double strength(neck) and 2 shine on chin-neck and had like 5-6 hits
People do smell things differently. I use openness and honesty all the time, and have smelled IFM and they don’t smell like piss to me.