PMX 102 - Initial Trials

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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Hey everyone-

Wanted to take a minute and share some impressions of PMX 102 following my 1st week of testing. This is a little different for me, as I’m experienced w/ the original A314 formula but am not familiar w/ the reformulated version currently available. I do see some differences w/ the new A314 and it certainly feels like an improvement. As usual w/ A314 it’s a matter of nuances…let’s just say it seems more well rounded. I am definitely seeing the “it just makes life easier” effect.

In general, my work life has improved. Most of the pet peeves I have w/ coworkers have disappeared. Not only do ppl follow thru on things instead of leaving them for others to take care of, but ppl have gone out of their way to do things for me w/out having to ask. The first day of use at work and my boss kept wanting me to hang out in her office to get “advice”. She even was kinda flirty which is unusual considering she’s lesbian…never seen this effect from her w/out -none, which I’d prefer not to use at work. All of the stuck up girls at work have warmed up. This one dude, John, who never shuts up, not only keeps his trap shut but he pretty much stays away which is fine w/ me. The other day we had a new guy starting and my boss asked me to train him while John was assigned a bunch of sh!t work. Get this…John is the official “corporate trainer”. lol Normally, John would have bitched and whined about such an insult to his percieved self-importance. However, he quitely did his sh!t work and even volunteered to do a couple of things for me w/out ever having to ask…and he did it pleasantly. I don’t recall ever seeing such a dramatic effect from any other -mone, mix or even w/ the original A314. I normally would have expected at least some whining, let alone outright resistance.

I have noticed some spacing effects, but not nearly as severe as the old formula.

Another thing I’ve noticed is that the stuck up girls that I work w/ have warmed up to me and shown some IOIs for the first time. One girl that I know is interested in me has been a bit standoffish due, I think, to the enhanced DHV effect, but her stuck up little friend won’t stop smiling at me lately. That’s a first! When I add IS, the stuck up girl looks and acts “crushy”.

I experienced this the other day w/ a very attractive sales rep who stops in every week. She’s always business-friendly to those she has to deal w/ , but is oblivious to anyone else. A buddy of mine ran into her at happy hour recently and had chatted w/ her briefly. He and I were hanging out together when she stopped in. She did her business very quickly, then came over to say hi to my buddy. As they’re chatting, she starts giving me some subtle IOIs and it was like she was talking to him but seemed more focused on me. Another thing I noticed was my buddy talking me up to this girl. Very odd since he was talking about how he wanted to hook up w/ her when she first came in. I’ve seen this before when using A314.

I’ve seen this w/ the old A314…had an experience where a girl I had been making out w/ ended up introducing me to her friend who was the alpha fem of their group…she was a VP for a major banking firm (or so her business card said) and definitely the hottest one of the group. Now I’m talking about all in the same night. Meet beta girl…make out…beta girl intros me to alpha girl and talks me up…beta girl dissappears…alpha girl and I hook up.

Dosage:

PMX 102 seems to be right in line w/ regard to matching the dosage of the A314 oil. That is, one spray seems to equal one drop in strength.

Appropriate dosage is equivalent w/ both PMX 102 and A314. I seem to get the best results w/ 2-3 sprays of PMX 102 as compared to 2-3 drops of A314. I tried 5 sprays one day and it felt very heavy and dark. Ppl were very quiet and standoffish. When they did interact, they tended to be very brief, to the point and business like. When my boss was giving some direction on what I needed to get done that day, she seemed timid. I don’t know how else to describe it other than to say that she talked to me as if I were the boss. It seemed pretty awkward, to be honest. She did offer to give me any schedule that I wanted and, when she was done, made sure that it got my approval. lol Now here’s the thing. This was so unlike a -none experience…no fear or intimidation…just respect, plain and simple.

Duration:

I have noticed one down side though. Diffusion is awesome and the effects are instant, however, duration is lacking. The effects seem to decline after 3-4 hours…up to 5-6 hours when I used 5 sprays and I did finally get some hits 2-3 hours after application.

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Awesome report, man.

Now… do you see this as increasing or decreasing his value and your value to her? Deliberately or otherwise, I have friend who does this consistently (I usually have on A314 around him). He is a fun, outgoing guy who is v good with girls, but I do wonder whether this is not a subtle AMOG tactic, conscious or otherwise. In other words I have noticed this often increases attraction in target towards the guy doing the talking up and lessens it toward the guy being boosted. You might think of it as a subtle false disqualifier followed by a DHV (this is certainly consistent with the behaviour of a tribal leader). Neil Strauss talks about stumbling across this technique by accident when he is trying to sarge a girl on behalf of Mystery.

This may not be practical for you. But how is it if you top up after 4 hours? So spray 2 sprays in morning and another 3 sprays after a few hours. Does one risk OD, or does this maintain a consistent effect?

How do you find the fragrance works for you?

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In this case, I don’t think she was really paying that much attention to what he was saying for the most part. She seemed more focused on me…her body was mostly facing me and she would talk to him w/out actually looking at him, at times. From the look in her eyes, the wheels were spinning away in her head.

Having other guys attempt to sabotage my success is nothing new since I’ve been using pheros. I know for a fact that this guy has intentionally done this a couple of times…usually seems to happen w/ -none mixes. A314 lends itself to more respect overall, while -none seems to elicit jealousy/insecurity.

I’ve tried this and it’s not easy for me to carry around little spray bottles and slip away at work to reapply. Can’t really do it discretely. It does seem to work better the other way around though…3 sprays in the morning and a refresh w/ 2 sprays later in the day.

I love the fragrance and have gotten compliments. Some have said that it fades quickly or is weak. I haven’t had this experience, myself. I find that the scent lasts all day. Have also noticed what seems to be some random, brief (allbeit, delayed) phero release that seems to coincide w/ a wave of scent diffusion. Of course, it’s also possible that I’ve come to associate the phero effects w/ the scent and it’s a placebo effect. When I refer to a delayed release, I can only speak of self-effects at this point.

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Um… isn’t PMX 102 the same formula as A314, only in spray form? How can you get different results if that’s the case? Is the diffusion having that much difference?

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Perhaps you should review what I wrote above, especially the first paragraph. This may resolve your confusion.

That being said, MHarris stated that he was unable to duplicate the oil-based formula exactly while developing the spray version. The change in carrier changed the behavior/volatility of the molecules in the formula so he had to do some adjusting. Therefore, it probably wouldn’t be that unusual to notice some minor variations.

Yes, the difference in diffusion between the oil and spray is noticable. I find that w/ the spray, the effects are immediate but don’t last very long at all. It would seem that the greater diffusion of the spray is a bit of a double edged sword, so the speak. That is, the medium helps get those molecules out in the air, but at the same time they don’t stick around nearly as long.

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I think when you were referring to “the new formulation” I thought you meant a new mix of pheromones, and you were referring to anew medium (oil vs alcohol). Am I right? I didn’t see where MHarris said he needed to alter the formula, though.

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Yes and no, I only have experience w/ the original formulation. The new version is far more complex: 9 mones vs. 5 in the old one. There do seem to be noticable differences from the carrier change, though. Either way, it’s no sweat…i have no problem w/ anyone seeking clarification. I’m sure that I don’t have to tell you what a challenge it can be to accurately describe our phero experiences, sometimes.

That statement by Michael is around here somewhere…perhaps I’ll have time to look around after work today. If I do, I’ll post it in this thread.

Cool? Right on! :smiley:

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Methinks you are meaning this post Scotti - feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

Had a bit of time on my hands, so went a-huntin.’ :slight_smile:

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/opt-in-for-the-spray-a314-experiments/326/59

Ail :slight_smile:

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Thanks Ail.

Yeah, this is one of the posts I recall reading.

MHarris:

“MX102 is a spray “interpretation” of the original A314 (with adjustments made for differences in the diffusion curve of the oil vs. the spray):”

I think there was also another, perhaps, slightly more detailed yet similar post somewhere too, iirc.

If I run across the other one, then I’ll add that too.

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Found it!

MHarris:

"Yes, the sprays will tend to be more obvious because of enhanced diffusion created by the delivery method and the Neroli/Orange “cover scent” package used. (which was designed for us by the same folks who designed Andron for Jovan more than 25 years go, as well as a bunch of other famous colognes, including Drakkar Noir)

The downside, of course, would be length of results. Oils diffuse slower and give you muted effects compared to our sprays, but upside is that they last longer.

Let me know how long you’re seeing effects, and if any of the effects differ from oil A314 itself.

I couldn’t make an exact duplicate of A314 in spray form, since the diffusion curves of the pheromones differ in this format – i.e., I had a use a little more of some mones, and less of others.

Adjustments may still be needed to achieve the very same effect."

MX102 vs. A314, Come Talk To Me vs. Honesty & Openness, Straight Vs. Gay?
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I get much more noticeable effects with mx 102 as well over A314 original.

I’ve been using 3-4 sprays of mx 102 and if I combine A314 droper with mx 102 I do 2 drops A314 and 2 sprays mx 102.

I’ve gotten remarks like " yes sir master" on more than one account with mx 102 where as with the dropper forumula I never got this..effects are much more pronounced I feel with the spray mx102.

My main stellar combo I’ve been using lately is 1 drops A314 and 2-3 sprays mx102+3 sprays IH+3-4 sprays IS.

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Looooog time no see, Cloudy! :smiley:

What have you notice to be 102’s life span … 3 hours?

Thanks!

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around 4-6 hours for the spray depending on how hot it is..and how hot I get.