Possible Testosterone issue?

[Rangel52]

I have only have been using mones for s short while but, I can’t figure this one out. I am a 51 year old male and I have AMMO X2, IG, IS X2, TUTH, IO, IH. I going through testing and have found some interesting findings. I haven’t started and online journal yet but and I’m keeping notes and will be posting details soon.

My testing with AMMO has been extremely interesting with some fantastic results with some exceptions and would like some input from others. As mentioned in an earlier post when I use 2-3 sprays AMMO X2, the immediate effect on me is pissed off and anger. It doesn’t matter where I spray it on my body. However, when I cover it with 2-3 spares of IG and/or IS, this feeling is almost immediately replaced with what I would call a cool dude with a high testosterone level. Because of this I have not tested AMMO X2 solo. However this mix has been very successful around women in their thirties, forties, and fifties.

One problem I have is when I wear AMMO X2 around a slightly older female friend, who I have a sexual relationship with, is she gets angry and for no reason, which is the same effect it has on me, but the socials reduce the effect on me, but not her. She is aware of my mone testing, and she acknowledges that when I come near her wearing it she get pissed for no reason. She has told me the testing of AMMO around her is over and to never wear in around her again. Now, I have soloed and mixed the social mones around her and her reactions have been positive, predictable, and she even likes the effect they have on her. She even likes to see others reactions around me and has even intervened when she thought things were getting a little too touchy-feely. We both discussed it may be the strength of the fragrance of the AMMO and not necessarily the mones causing the anger issue. Regardless AMMO is out when she is around.

Now what is interesting is I have done some limited testing with TUTH, once on me around the house (3) TUTH (2.5 mcg) and it had what I interpret as a high testosterone feeling. I felt extremely aggressive, confident, and ready to pounce so I had to buffer it down a bit with some (2) IS x2. A couple of weeks ago I attended a party with a mix of (1) AMMO regular, (3) IS x2, (3) IG, and (2) IH. Very good and interesting results but 4-5 hours later my female friend and I hooked up and were pretty drunk and decided to walk to her place for some intimacy. I thought it would be a perfect time to test the TUTH (2.5mcg) so I sprayed two to the chest. Shortly after we are in the bed about to do the nasty when she said stop and go wash that stuff off. Well I was too drunk to shower, so I ended up sleeping on the couch until I sobered up and drove home. WTH, TUTH is lightly neroli scented which she likes so, the issue seems to be with the sexual mones.

Now for the most part the mix of AMMO, IS, IG has work great with women in their twenties and thirties and good in their forties and fifties. It’s just strange the mix is more effective on the younger females (20s-30s) and my female friend has the same anger reaction to the sexual mones that I do, except the buffers don’t work with her.

Although I’m 51, I think my testosterone level my still be a little high. I’m no where near as active as my younger years but, when I was younger my brother and I could work out at the gym and within two or three weeks we would look like we had been working out for months. (My brother, 3 years younger, was in semi-professional body building competitions.) A lot of our friends were envious because they would have to work twice as long or longer to see the same results. I haven’t work out at the gym in several years now so I’m not sure how the genetics and mones play out in my early fifties, so I add this information to give some incite as to possible factors such genetics, age, my be affecting the mone dosing.

So, I’m interested in what are your thoughts on this and the possible direction I should take with the mones?

[tisha23]

Your first mistake was telling her you had them on. Now you cant tell if her reaction is real or placebo.

My guess since its isolated to her would be a signature memory. Sort of like a scent memory. Scent can trigger feelings from our past. Perhaps someone with a high anone signature caused her some discomfort in her past so she doesn’t respond well to the high anone vibe. Normally if she didnt know you and this was the case she would just ignore or avoid you. However you know each other and she is aware of the mones so she just knows she doesn’t like it but not why.

I would just not wear anone around her. It seems to be working for you with others. She likes the socials so stick to those or try one of the putatives like P83 or TAC to spice things up.

Tisha

[P51Mustang]

@Rangel52

I have only have been using mones for s short while but, I can’t figure this one out. I am a 51 year old male and I have AMMO X2, IG, IS X2, TUTH, IO, IH. I going through testing and have found some interesting findings. I haven’t started and online journal yet but and I’m keeping notes and will be posting details soon.

My testing with AMMO has been extremely interesting with some fantastic results with some exceptions and would like some input from others. As mentioned in an earlier post when I use 2-3 sprays AMMO X2, the immediate effect on me is pissed off and anger. It doesn’t matter where I spray it on my body. However, when I cover it with 2-3 spares of IG and/or IS, this feeling is almost immediately replaced with what I would call a cool dude with a high testosterone level. Because of this I have not tested AMMO X2 solo. However this mix has been very successful around women in their thirties, forties, and fifties.

One problem I have is when I wear AMMO X2 around a slightly older female friend, who I have a sexual relationship with, is she gets angry and for no reason, which is the same effect it has on me, but the socials reduce the effect on me, but not her. She is aware of my mone testing, and she acknowledges that when I come near her wearing it she get pissed for no reason. She has told me the testing of AMMO around her is over and to never wear in around her again. Now, I have soloed and mixed the social mones around her and her reactions have been positive, predictable, and she even likes the effect they have on her. She even likes to see others reactions around me and has even intervened when she thought things were getting a little too touchy-feely. We both discussed it may be the strength of the fragrance of the AMMO and not necessarily the mones causing the anger issue. Regardless AMMO is out when she is around.

Now what is interesting is I have done some limited testing with TUTH, once on me around the house (3) TUTH (2.5 mcg) and it had what I interpret as a high testosterone feeling. I felt extremely aggressive, confident, and ready to pounce so I had to buffer it down a bit with some (2) IS x2. A couple of weeks ago I attended a party with a mix of (1) AMMO regular, (3) IS x2, (3) IG, and (2) IH. Very good and interesting results but 4-5 hours later my female friend and I hooked up and were pretty drunk and decided to walk to her place for some intimacy. I thought it would be a perfect time to test the TUTH (2.5mcg) so I sprayed two to the chest. Shortly after we are in the bed about to do the nasty when she said stop and go wash that stuff off. Well I was too drunk to shower, so I ended up sleeping on the couch until I sobered up and drove home. WTH, TUTH is lightly neroli scented which she likes so, the issue seems to be with the sexual mones.

Now for the most part the mix of AMMO, IS, IG has work great with women in their twenties and thirties and good in their forties and fifties. It’s just strange the mix is more effective on the younger females (20s-30s) and my female friend has the same anger reaction to the sexual mones that I do, except the buffers don’t work with her.

Although I’m 51, I think my testosterone level my still be a little high. I’m no where near as active as my younger years but, when I was younger my brother and I could work out at the gym and within two or three weeks we would look like we had been working out for months. (My brother, 3 years younger, was in semi-professional body building competitions.) A lot of our friends were envious because they would have to work twice as long or longer to see the same results. I haven’t work out at the gym in several years now so I’m not sure how the genetics and mones play out in my early fifties, so I add this information to give some incite as to possible factors such genetics, age, my be affecting the mone dosing.

So, I’m interested in what are your thoughts on this and the possible direction I should take with the mones?

My guess is -none is polar in women, but around that age (if you’re dating the same age) I’m not sure if ovulation is still in effect, as women approach that stage of their life, I’m not sure if -none still affects them in that way. Try about two weeks later with her, unfortunately if she’s used to the scent already, if can mess up the perceptions and she still could get mad or agitated at you. That’s the best explanation I can give to you on why she might possibly me angry at you.

[Rangel52]

I was thinking about waiting awhile and see what would happen if I ordered AMMO with another scent, such a akuto, and see what happens, but I think Tisha may have hit the nail on the head. It makes sense that it could very well be feelings being triggered by the anone from past memories. This may explain why there are certain guys my friend can’t stand to be around and for no apparent reason.

Somewhat related but, did you ever know someone you didn’t like being around, but you really couldn’t put you finger on why? A few years back I was having a pleasant discussion with a fellow co-worker when out of nowhere I felt a unpleasant funk come over me. A few seconds later I turned around and this guy, that I didn’t like to be around, was standing about three feet behind me. I guess his mone signature didn’t agree with me.

God, it makes my skin crawl to think that my mone signature might be perceived that way by some people.

Anyway, armed with the wisdom of Tisha, I think it would be wise to not tempt fate and avoid the anones when around my friend. I will give the P83 and TAC a test run and use the anones when I know I’m not going to run into her.

Thanks for the insight and suggestions.