I am thinking on doing a home IFM when I have money for it (probably on the end of this summer)
And I am thinking on doing on the sorts of a combo wich would include the main ingridents from IG, IH (wich I would have to study or beg to have them later on) and of course the androtics forbidden A1. But I think I am going to do 2 versions of it one with none and probably p83 in it and other without that.
So the hardcore IFM users could give me a hand I would appriciatte it.
my first order missed the discontinueing of IFM by a couple days. I was thinking about ordering it, but in my researching things before ordering, I missed my chance. A1 (I just dilluted some to make a 25mcg per spray w/ 6% (now 4.8%) neroli and PA) is one of my favorite molecules. I know for a fact that IFM did not have none, and I highly doubt it had p83 simply because I’m pretty sure p83 hadn’t caught on by then. I DO know that it was buffered mainly for the sake of the few males who do get depression from A1, thus It should have TAA and IS-like ingredients. It might have beta-nol… I don’t know but thats a good guess. Alpha-nol might work well too to buffer, but I would think it would be moreso Beta-nol. I don’t know the exact formula. I don’t believe it had Rone either simply because MHarris made a post later about trying to make a sort of IFM without A1 and someone brought up the idea of how A314 gives girls that sort of warm feeling and he was thinking about that formula–rone based-- for what seemed like something new. He said he might try that (it didn’t seem as though he had tried that yet), thus I don’t believe he had that in the original formula. There are many putatives and other new molecules that have been said to be “female happy sauces” and A1 replacers that were not there when it was discontinued however, thus I think you could probably even one-up the original formula. P83 is definately a good one in my opinion, although you will have people suggesting meo-est, p93, and many more I’m sure. I would get a good hold of such molecules (and the experimones you think might be applicable such as beta-nol, although unfortunately I don’t think many of the experimones are in stock) and have at it! You would not be the first, and I’m sure other people’s homemade formulas will reach this thread. Good luck!
Well meo-est is on my list if I ever get to be a reporting user… until then is to expensive for me.
And I am one of those users who can get depression out of A1 but I used dosages like 100 mcgs …
I was thinking on thing like P74, TAH(I think) , beta-nol, rone, A1, and indecisive about either P86 and P79 of course meo-est If I could get my hands on it. And this would be my great addition to it after reading the wildflower report P99.
Infact I think androtics should tryout a IFM with p99 substituing A1 and see how it goes… Of course if p99 hits are consistent with other users.
those all sound good to me except for maybe p79. If that is in there, I would make sure it is at a really small amount, simlply for intensifying the other feelings, and it would only work if the other feelings were good. You should play around with it… but I would probably not buy an IFM with any more than say 2.5 mcgs per spray of p79, I would prefer even less though.
P86 is somewhat relaxing… not exactly in the way that I think of IFM… But it definitely could work. And at the same time make everyone look GORGEOUS hahaha.
P99 I REALLY wanted to get, but it ran out of stock JUST before I could get it. It must have run out of stock as I was completing my order or something…
TAH I don’t know much about. I believe it is a lower body relaxer?
Meo-est I have and am willing to trade with you (as well as P86, P79, P102 (which might also be useful for IFM, and plays nicely with TAH I’ve heard). I got them in Akuto and HATE the scent. My targets all hate it too, so I haven’t used a whole lot of it. PM me if you want, I was literally on my way to make a post in the trading post thread on here.
From what I’ve read IFM contained about 30mcgs of pheros per spray. About 15mcgs was A1, and the rest being steering/buffering mones.
I’m obviously not a scientist, but based on the reports of IFM I’ve read, and of course factoring in the oustanding way A1 mixes with TAA I’d be willing to bet that TAA was also in the formula.A while back I made a small mix of TAA with A1 however I didn’t notice much of a difference but most users reported that IFM was also hard to see working (sometimes ).
There were also 3 EXTREMELY good MXs AD made a while back called MX114, MX115, and MX116. All 3 had A1 and I’d be willing to bet they also had P83 inside them as well along with Androsterone. I still have MX116 and it fucking works like a charm.
If you make an A1 mix my suggestion would be this:
A1
TAA
A-rone
IO
P83
The ratios would of course be up to you but I’d make sure you have at least 10mcgs of A1 and 20 mcgs of P83 per spray.
Doubt IFM had -none. IFM and A1 alone have been reported to calm women with PMS during her time and -none has the opposite effect. I hope AD gets A1 back. While I love the products here I’ll go anywhere to gt A1. If I had to give up all pheromones except one, I’d choose Androstadienone. They didnt call it IFM for nothing.
Oops! I’ve just been corrected by an anonymous person through the reputation system, TAH is the female pheromone that gives off the kitten vibe, and is no doubt used in one of the 2 instant sexiness’. So that probably wouldn’t be exactly what you are going for… glad the person caught me… whoever they were. Thanks if you see this!
The men’s version of IFM was mostly A1. The additional mones were supposed to help reduce depression side effects for the few men sensitive to high doses of A1. Obviously low doses of A1 are fine as it is the most common natural mone on male skin. Otherwise we’d all get depressed as soon as we break a sweat.
Personally I found chemset A1 from LS more effective at both female mood enhancement and defeating PMS. A wee bit goes a long way. IFM smelled terrible due to the buffering mones and lack of scent, and was a bit watered down, necessitating a might blast of stank. According to AD, they will not be creating any more A1 products due to safely concerns and, I’m guessing, patent conflicts with scent in A1 products. Dosed and scented ready-to-wear products is a hallmark of their design. IFM can’t incorporate integral scent without an licensing agreement like Dial has with Erox.
Well I want to create a confort mx that is not only for confort but also to give you a protcecitve, confident, strong aura.
So I was thinking in the likes of
A1 at 50mcg ( YES 50 )
rone (dont know yet, open for suggestions)
TAA (not TAH to contereffect the depression) (how much TAA do I need for that much A1 )
Beta-nol (uns 25 mcg)
MEO-EST (no idea probably 20 to go along with the rest of the mix)
P99 (along the same as MEO-EST)
Can you give me a help with the dosages actually I am only going to do it in the end of summer but I am planing it before and
In all likeliness the most you could possibly do MCG per spray wise is like 35-50 mcgs a spray with all ingredients together. The more ingredients you put the harder it is to have multiple components at 10+ mcgs per spray in One Bottle. Even if we had the formula sheet for MX353 we couldn’t make it because you need really high concentrations of everything which is just an example of why AD holds the cards since they control the concentrations we can buy and they obviously control the stock of each molecule.
If you want that kind of concentration of molecule on you you have to simply layer 3-7 bottles of either single molecule sprays or your MX broken down into 2-3 components per bottle since you’ve just listed like 7-8 things.
IFM was it’s own pheremone. It wasn’t some composite of a bunch of different pheremones. Unfortunately, the exact pheremone has been patented by someone else. Which is ridiculous, the patent office cannot restrict something everyone’s body produces naturally to one company because then that means every is breaking the law by just living. The patent office has been getting more and more corrupt though, bribes go a long way.
Actually, I do believe that is not at all the first time I’ve heard of breaking a mix up into its various components. I think I may have even heard Steve doing that, but don’t hold me ot that, I don’t know for sure. The other clear advantage to this is that you may want the effects of only part of a mix, or you may want to, for certain situations, change it slightly. Perhaps you have a general mix, that includes about everything, divided into sexuality, comfort, and socials. This way you can still tweak it some, or go with only one part of the mix and whatnot. Of course for IFM you wouldn’t divide it up the same, but you get the idea. Now I don’t believe it is an advantage in figuring out what works best generally for the mix after you’ve made it. Why? Because you should be figuring out what works best for the mix before you start diluting and mixing in the bottle, mix on your skin before you mix in a bottle. But like I said, certain situations might call for more of certain coersive parts of your favorite mix. I would definitely put the most coersive molecules in the same parts of the mix, like p86 and p83 would go together, and you can go from there.
Great suggestion Olfact Amarous, thanks for reminding me of the genius in that!
I literally just used the same write up to make some 25 mcg per spray A1 with 6% neroli (now 4.8% once its been dilluted). When you do that, it IS a little low as far as covering the scent at only 4.8% however, next time I think I’ll mix some 6% and some 20% together to make a medium amount for better covering it. I don’t want a full 20% because I don’t want to scent OD on cover scent either, Next few 5 ml I fill (I have the supplies for 10 including 2 days’ ago) I’ll mess with that a bit to see what works best to my nose, and fill you guys in.
Yup, its pretty good considering you get 10 togo’s worth for like $80 (i think thats the price). You still have to buy the diluent too of course, but honestly its easily worth it. 1 30ml bottle and 1 15ml bottle of diluent gives you a bit of extra dilluent, or you could buy 1 30ml bottle and 2 5ml’s. In the end you’ll need 40ml of dilluent if you do the 25mcg (thats what I would reccomend) per spray using the full strength opotion of LS’s A1.
Now that I’ve done it, I would reccommend you get the 15ml or 2 5ml’s with some 20% neroli, and play around with it, or at least try to keep the % at 6. I know your good at math from your other posts.
Nice report… I honestly should’ve added it to something I use every day, like shine (shine plus A1 is problably pretty damn close to IFM anyways, though perhaps not the right ratios). Next bottle I do that with will definitely either be shine, or IH (I love the bonding effects of it, plus the effects of A1 and betanol are pretty coersive. I can’t believe I didn’t think of that idea, but thanks for giving it to me! That makes me think that the cover scent wild be even more required. With the 25mcgs per spray, it’s not terrible, but it’s definitely more noticeable than I’d like it to be. Do you use a cover scent with it? And dammit… I really gotta get me some of that p79. I made an order more than half a month ago, but it’s been delayed because apparently the p79 takes an extra long time to formulate…
Yeah I have some P79 it’s pretty good but it was in the test pack. If you’re an RU Jas said it’s only like 42 bucks or something, plus you get some interesting ones so far too.
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