What else besides A1 was in it? I can buy chem set A1 from LS but IFM was listed as having 15 mcg of three different mones. Since AD no longer sells the product I see no harm in revealing the formula, especially since any ingredients besides the A1 I’d be buying here.
Not gonna happen, been asked for numerous times.
Well do we at least know how much of the 15 mcg per spray was actual A1 vs the two mystery mones?
Nope. Honestly just work around it. There’s many different combinations you can do that can be used to good effect with A-1. I know you’ve probably read many great reports about IFM but the funny thing that was mentioned by Tisha or one of the others is the fact that IFM was a “unpopular” product in comparison to the others during that time period and that only now after its gone its become a commodity popularity wise. It would be very hard to narrow down to the exact mcgs which was the A-1.
As far as the recipe is concerned I think you forget to realize that AD, as they claim, say that they do not make money from selling us the putatives since they sell it at cost. The main line is the only way they subsist primarily. It amazes me but this place really is dedicated to research. They don’t make money selling us things like P83 and MX353. MX353 is reported to be a 50 mcg a spray experimental mix. Considering that much content if they ever did make it into a real product it would cost a lot more than simply the 29 dollars per 5 mL that some newer users already complain about.
Wow, that is a serious phero bomb
Yes, yes it is. When it hits, it hits like a freight train. ![]()
Let’s speculate on this ![]()
15 mcg divided in 3 mones could mean that it was equal amounts of them all, 5 mcg.
Of course it could also have been 10 mcg A1 and the other two was 2.5 mcg each.
Or 7+3](tel:+3)+5](tel:+5) or 1+9](tel:+9)+5](tel:+5) or 2+4](tel:+4)+9](tel:+9) or…
But my guess is that simple is better: 5 mcg each.
I’m willing to bet money that one of the other two molecules was TAA, to counter the possible depression effect.
And I’m also guessing on TAA because of the positive mood change that I see when I’m wearing IFM.
Then the third molecule…
I get very bonding hits from IFM, so my guess is Bnol.
So could this be it:
5 mcg A1
5 mcg TAA
5 mcg Bnol
Any other ideas? ![]()
Much more than 5 mcg of A1.
Infact I bet its about 10.
My guess?
10mcg A1
2.5mcg TAA
2.5mcg ? (Meo-est? B-nol?)
Not sure because I never got to try it out, but seriously thats what I would guess from what I have read about it.
Remember, the other molecules are their to “guide” the A1, so seemingly small amounts may be all that is needed to push it in the right direction.
IFM unpopular? i dont think so…there have always been solid reports on its amazing efficacy re: comfort and bonding…infact, i think it has always been very, very underrrated…girls dont know why…and it creeps up on them,…and before you know it they r looking at you like they want to marry you, they get really crushy eyes…they 'l follow up with you whereas too often, androstenone leads to buyers remorse as there embarassed by how aroused they get…seriously if AMMO is “lust” A1 is “falling in love”…its my number 1 date choice…yes it makes sense that B-Nol or meo-est r the other molecules, and maybe abit of TAA, but not much as u dont get the same self-effects that u get from IS when i wore IFM…best combos were actually when u add IH or IO and IS to the IFM
I’m only repeating what another user said. On top of that the shortage of Ammunition until as of late has made all user’s randy for ammunition and nothing else. Do you even know how many “When is ammo coming back threads” there have been? I myself apply the same Ammo phenomenon to IFM because after it was gone you can find loads and loads of threads from people asking where did IFM go, Is it coming back, how can I make it because so many people said this and this about it.
I disagree wholeheartedly when people associate androstenone with attraction. If you were unattractive to a girl previously androstenone isn’t going to make you more attractive. It would more like awaken her senses to you in that “capacity” therefore causing arousal which she may accept or deny depending on the rest of your qualities as you converse with her. A-1 is great though. As a romantic myself I prefer a romantic pheromone like A-1 when I have a one-on-one with a woman. TAA doesn’t have much staying power so having a little tiny bit like 2.5 wouldn’t do very much IMO. The beta-nol idea definitely has some ground. Just enough though because “Too much familiarity too soon breeds contempt” don’t like wearing lots of b-nol because interaction is so superficial.
I agree wholeheartedly with this post.
I’ve done some searching and ever since this site has been around there have been MANY IFM reports. However the problem with A1/IFM is that the effects are incredibly subtle.
But here’s a quick difference I’ve noticed when using it. Whenever I wear A1 around my GF she locks me into a super tight hug, which may seem like nothing but I notice she holds this hug A LOT longer than usual and she acts very warm towards me.
I once wore A1 while shopping with another girl (along with MX297 and MX336) and since then she has been very into me, which is great considering I made a few errors on that first date.:o
A1 is like an invisible shield that protects you from bitch fits, and puts a bright halo on top of your head.![]()
Now people think A1 is subtle as the reactions arent as overt or direct as with A-none, but teh net effect is actually way more powerful and long lasting. But we all know women work indirectly in signalling there interest to a male, and it can just be that little crushy comment she says to u unexpectedly and out of nowhere that makes A1 so good. 1 girl id just met asked me 6 times for my facebook, her friend made a CD for me out of nowhere and i dont even know the girl, a 3rd was so dissapointed i didnt overtly hit on her, id heard from a 3rd party she had actually cried over me…another i can tell just feels this powerful connection to me when im wearing A1…so if these r subtle responses, …well maybe im just lucky with it…but i never normally get those type of intense GF-like crushy infatuated repsonses wearing any other -mones…
and unlike Androstenone hits, A1 affected girls arent gonna flake on me later down the track.
totally underrated
Yeah I totally agree with this and have similar experiences myself from A1. I also agree with K-train though - the effects are subtle. Still water runs deep, so to speak. It can evoke very strong, powerful emotions under the surface without too much change in outward behaviour. The change isn’t always instant and obvious, it can easily be missed in comparison to overt anone reactions. You wouldn’t hand someone a bottle of A1 if you wanted to prove to them pheromones work would you?
Oh my gosh, THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!^^![]()
![]()
The best way to describe it is like this: imagine if you met a girl that you like, and you sensed this INCREDIBLE connection between the two of you. At the time you try to hide it but later over the next few days you keep thinking about the feeling, that spark that you felt when the two of you were together. That’s A1.
Its so effective I consider it dangerous using it around girls that you don’t think have potential in terms of a LTR. I’m not saying not to use it but you will likely stir some feelings in a girl that may not go well over time as she may be broken hearted when you don’t return the same feelings in her.
I had around 12-14 mcgs of A-1 on the other day among other things and this philipina girl just gave me the longest seductive gaze to the point where I had to break eye contact with her at 5 seconds passed. It wasn’t a lusty gaze mind it was one of those romantic love at first sight type of interest look. Even when I started to talk to to this girl sitting next to me this pinay girl would keep looking back at me as if to let on to something more (This sort of “I’m here” doe eyed look that made her look so immensely cute I have to admit) She did this 3-4 times and I know she wanted me to talk to her instead. I sensed it like a slight jealousy but it was more like she felt left out and couldn’t understand why I chose to talk to this girl and not her. I typically don’t talk to girls I’m interested in right off the bat. Although contradictory to pheromones when a girl shows way too much interest in me it turns me off in a way although I have to admit I induced quite of bit of the reaction of my own accord and not by simply nature.
Too bad really she seemed like a sweet girl with a nice looking body. But I won’t see her in class until April so I think my chance with approaching her is gone and I felt kinda bad when I went home because I felt like I should’ve talked to her I just wasn’t that interested to begin with. I know she felt rejected by me because I had LOTS of opportunities to talk to her.
Be careful with A-1. I’ve broken a lot of hearts with it ![]()
What other pheros do you wear with A1? I’ve found that A1 seems to go well with Ammo and A314 and also Instant Honesty.
It was a homemade ammo mix I made with A-1 included. My mcg ratios are very different from the actual ammo recipe to suit my needs and incorporate certain factors I wanted out of the mix. Can’t deny the power of Beta androstenol combined with A-1 ![]()
For what its worth I like using P83/P74 also. P74 provides that extra comfort I want although I only use it in smaller quantities like 3-6 mcgs with A-1. And I use P83 to help me amplify the romantic energy by reducing the space between us and bring home the love at first sight feeling with some light touching and flirting. Girls I’ve been around quite a bit even just as classmates twice a week with A-1 on for a moderate amount of the time with some light playful conversation has left them remembering me even after the class ended. I say that last part because I’ve experienced quite a few girls from past classes coming up to me out of nowhere and talking to me as if we’d known each other for a long time.
I think I might try a P83, A1, and IH mix sometime soon and see how it fares. I know from experience that A1 certaintly has long lasting effects on girls I’ve met. I just ordered some Instant Shine so I’ll be testing that with A1 and P83 to see what I can come up with.
Sounds good man. Let me know if you find any interesting developments. The use of A-1 and finding new ways to use it interests me more than most things.
the best molecule that synergises with A1 is TAA…not opnion this is fact, MH wrote about this…now combine with IO or CTTM2 or IH and u have the bees knees pheromance
. So, on its own, IFM didnt give me amazing results…but with 3 zaps of IS?..booyaaa!!! and me thinks the IO is the icing on the cake…but this crushy romance GF affect happens when u combine the IS with the IFM, the IO 'l make u tell 'em about how there feeling…thus the -Nols help them to be more open with how they r reacting…
IFM solo - average
IFM/IS - u get this crushy response
IFM/IS/IO - this response becomes less subtle as they’ll verbalise or otehriwse express it to you…![]()
how to explain…when girls r Adrostenone aroused, its a horny lusty look they give you…when there A1 aroused, the look is that they’ve just fallen in love with you…they r in complete awe of you[haha, especially when there drinking:)]…now if you ask me, its the loveliest expression a girl can ever give you.
Now IFM/ Meo-EST/IH - on paper at least, is the “comfort bomb” formula. Add IS for synergy, IO for female verbal repsonse mechanism to activate…and you have the potential to have any girl fall in luuurve
haha…
incidnentally, had a lovely response with IFM covered with Dr. Smell This’s Pheros cologne.