Questions about p83

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Completely forgot to ask something else that was on my mind. I was reading somewhere else that if you use p83 you have to take action otherwise you will frustrate and alienate your target and she will not take that very well? I think it might have been the 2008 thread I was reading so I don’t know if that is still the case I was just curious. I decided to change my approach with this girl I am going through the steps to make my self more appealing as more than just a friend without sounding weak and needy, stop listening to her talk about other guys and start asking her advice about girls at work that I am interested in, playing the jealousy game. Because of this should I forgo the p83 especially if this will alienate her with this approach or will the p83 drive her crazy enough to edge her on towards falling for me?

I am starting a journal soon enough I want to record the entire process and what mones I use and how long it will take to go from friend zone to relationship, if it is even possible. I will post a link here once I start it up so you guys can follow and see how it all turns out!

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I’d Keep the P83… It has what Other Have called a “Crush” Effect… If you are Talking about Other Girls and She is “Crushing” on You… She will Need to Take Action… The Trick is Not to Over Do it… To Much and She’ll feel She has No Chance… Keep telling about Girls you Like, Ask Her Advice, then Tell Her How ya Struck Out… You Made her Jealous and then Opened a Door of Opportunity for Her… That Window of Opportunity and the Effects of P83 on your Mix Might just Do it… That’s just My Advice, Others may have Better Ideas…

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That is exactly what I was thinking, great minds think alike I suppose. So I shall stick with the p83. Here is the journal I will be keeping, the date with her isn’t til next Thursday so I won’t have a full report until after that. But I wrote my initial mission statement to basically let people know my current situation and what my objective is with the mone experimentations.

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It sure does attract the teeny boppers. I usually have women from 15 to 30 giving me some sort of attention. I find that when I drive my car I am more apt to listen to music that has similar appeal. Butterfly in your stomach music as if I’m in love with these women from the start. In a way its ok but in a way its like tripping over my own sword. It makes me feel like chilling. i need to talk very little.

Like i posted in a msg before… sensory overload. I use it with ammo and shine.

dsouza

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Yup, I’ve Attracted 17-28 Year Olds with It… And I’m an Overweight Out of Shape 39 Year Old… I’m Kinda Lucky as the Self Effect has Not Been Strong on Me… Sure Does Hit the Women Around Me Though… Have you Noticed that it Tends to Make then Think ONLY Positive Things about You?!? I Could be Wrong… Just Try to Put Yourself Down Sometime and Watch them Spring to Your Defense… I Got a 10 Minute Lecture about What a Great Catch I am from a 22 Year Old Nursing Student (looked Like a Young Minnie Driver)… I’ve Had Similar Things Happen from Other Women with P83… P83 is Some Fun Stuff… As I’ve Said Before, I’m Buying More and SOON… As Far as I’m Concerned THIS Could Very Well be a Product All on It’s OWN…

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Ok we’re all coming to similar conclusions here on this product.

Let’s talk more about how to be congruent with it.

Both you and others who use the product have you discovered what works with congruency and what doesn’t?

I make small talk with women mostly at malls or cafes. I think I’ll need to drop in some compliments with sexual undertone for them and see how things progress from there. Basically in a nutshell get some flirting and kino going.

dsouza

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You have to do this with all pheros TBH - There may be the occasional wild response but more generally, If you are not congruent with the signal they send, any advantage you get from pheros will be wasted and your subject’s interest will turn to frustration and cause them to move-on.

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Oh okay well my concern is that the goal is to slowly get her to crush on me hard core, but I don’t want to show up there on the first attempt with the mones and jump her bone, so to speak. So I don’t want to blatantly say, “hey baby let’s make out” so for congruency if I flirt and show some IOIs, maybe some playful touching, wrap my arm around her for only a few seconds while we are walking side by side, stuff like that to make her feel like I am taking an interest but leave her wondering if it is genuine or not. I don’t intend on just sitting there across from her not making eye contact or talking. We are friends after all and she wants to spend time with me, so the more time we spend the more things will develop between us, that is the goal at least.

So by your suggestion you think I should take action immediately on the first attempt? I mean I can understand a girl getting frustrated in a bar if she is going crazy and I pay her no attention and her losing interest, but someone who is already very interested in being my friend and spending time with me surely the situation would be a bit different when it comes to congruency? Thank you for all your advice so far guys it has been a huge help. I haven’t really considered congruency as much so any advice one what that entails me to do would be greatly appreciated!

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I got the bottle in 15mcg I find 30 works well for me in the office. Asian girls love it! This one girl who starts earlier then I do always waits till I get in and then goes to the office kitchen to boil water and she waits for me to make coffee. EVERY DAY she’s goes. She knows my routine. She doesn’t sit far and like clock work off she goes. Even if I’m late! comedy.

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So with P83 and a314a how exactly does that works as far as effects and have anybody tried it with mx297 or mx390. Also what should I do first spray my base first then P83 or visa versa

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I have been using mx390 with 1x P83 (30mcg/spray) and 1x-2x TAA (30mcg/spray) ---- Good results thus far… I work in sales and I have noticed the mix stimulates the attention span of my clients and causes a lingering effect. Throughout the day, affected customers – mostly women – were returning to me; asking questions which seemed rhetorical or redundant. Everyone was talkative; more than usual. Interestingly, there was an observed affect on the child of one my customers; she started barking at me with her tongue out… weird… This went on for about 5 minutes as I assisted her mother. I think I’m going to test the mix with some P74 to replace the P83 this time.. Any suggestions for the # of mcg?

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I have noticed from my continue trials with ammo is and p83 that the p83 is now causing more problems than good:

  1. itchin skin and burning on the back of my neck where I apply it. Does p83 have any acidic compounds in it?

  2. over intoxication of cologne reek. I almost never get results with p83 alone so I pair it with ammo and shine and I think too much akuto is making the cologne smell kinda intolerable and causing me to get stoned off it. I did try applying the p83 to forearms but the problem was even worse. i wave my hands a lot in front of targets and I end up inhaling it. I seem to see a pattern here 2 products in a mix seem to be my limit. 3 and I always OD on cologne, don’t get the desired effect I’m after, etc

  3. p83 sometimes causes people (men) to lose a lot of restraint in how they voice things. I had one waiter/owner guy at a restaurant I go to rant on about how his wife is not supporting him and he would do this in front of other customers who were being seated nearly. It’s as if he had to get it off his chest no matter what the environment. Not something a business owner with professional skills would do and I notice when I don’t wear p83 he doesn’t behave this way.

  4. p83 makes me into a sap. I kinda feel that crush feeling myself, and I think as someone who does not want to act like a 15 year old guy hung up over a stranger i would rather not have that feeling. if I could limit that feeling to the woman only by applying to other targets it would be ok.

  5. My SO says she “tunes out” everytime she inhales the stuff. It causes her to lose focus. . I wonder what is happening. She says I tend to look like I tune out with it on too.

Just some observations of my current trials with p83. I decided to let others explore some more. It works better for me than p79 or p102 for sure.

Any tips on my queries?

Dsouza

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  1. Try applying it to your clothing instead? From what I understand, it may also reduce the conversion process affecting some of these compounds.
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I Haven’t had any Skin Irritation or Similar Issues with P83, Not to say it Couldn’t Happen… Also Sounds Sorta like You are Inhaling Your Own Poison so to Speak… How Much P83 are You Using Dsouza?!? Might Scale it Back just a Tad and See if that Helps the Side Effects…

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Ouch, is this just occurring to the back of the neck or anywhere you apply it ?

Maybe for some reasons the pores on the back of your neck or more open. Try other application points and it that doesn’t work cloths application.

Hmm everyone has there cologne threshold. Good thing is your aware of yours. This probably has more to do with the Akuto scent. I find it very strong. I like it but just like anything else to much of a good thing can be bad.

I would consider getting your products in light neroli from now on.

Interesting…Did he rant to you or just a general rant ? Did you have IH on at the time as well ?

You have to remember that every behavior you see is not caused by your pheromones. This waiter could have done this whether or not you had it on. He may have just been having a bad night. Look for repeated patterns. If he behaves in a similar fashion every time you wear it then its safe to say its a P83 reaction.

LOL really ?? I wonder if anyone else is getting that feeling on the male side ?

Now does that feeling occur when your wearing it with other products as well or only on its own ? When you say “sap” what do you mean. Weak sensitive, vulnerable etc etc … ?

That surprises me, it tends to work with your senses. Makes you more in-tune with your sensuality. This may be why you getting the sappy feeling. Maybe its like tuning into another channel as opposed to tuning out totally.

Not saying any of your findings are wrong there is no wrong or right just contemplating whats going on.

Great report thanks for sharing. P83 is one of my favorite most explored molecules so it interests me to compare notes with people.

Tisha

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Maybe for some reasons the pores on the back of your neck or more open. Try other application points and it that doesn’t work cloths application.

Dsouza-> I am developing skin irritation to back of neck. COuld be from sunburn as its gettin hot and humid here in toronto. Could be spraying over a sensitive area thats burned is causing the problem.

Hmm everyone has there cologne threshold. Good thing is your aware of yours. This probably has more to do with the Akuto scent. I find it very strong. I like it but just like anything else to much of a good thing can be bad.

I would consider getting your products in light neroli from now on.

dsouza-> very good idea tisha. very good indeed. I think i can wear 1 akuto product at a time. the rest neroli.

Interesting…Did he rant to you or just a general rant ? Did you have IH on at the time as well ?

You have to remember that every behavior you see is not caused by your pheromones. This waiter could have done this whether or not you had it on. He may have just been having a bad night. Look for repeated patterns. If he behaves in a similar fashion every time you wear it then its safe to say its a P83 reaction.

dsouza-> I will try to repeat the pattern for testing purposes.

LOL really ?? I wonder if anyone else is getting that feeling on the male side ?

Now does that feeling occur when your wearing it with other products as well or only on its own ? When you say “sap” what do you mean. Weak sensitive, vulnerable etc etc … ?

dsouza-> Yes weak, vunerable, and too sappy :slight_smile: LOL. Almost like a teenage girl.. yikes LOL!

That surprises me, it tends to work with your senses. Makes you more in-tune with your sensuality. This may be why you getting the sappy feeling. Maybe its like tuning into another channel as opposed to tuning out totally.

Not saying any of your findings are wrong there is no wrong or right just contemplating whats going on.

Great report thanks for sharing. P83 is one of my favorite most explored molecules so it interests me to compare notes with people.

dsouza-> I’m having fun exploring it if nothing else. When all else fails I have my ammo is combo anyways. :smiley:

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P83 Findings So Far…

1> Causes a Crush-Like Feeling in Target (Lesser Affect on Self)…
2> If Conversation Stops Target goes into DIHL Mode Until You Start Again…
3> If You Make ANY Negative Comment about Yourself the Target Tends to Defend you…
4> Makes Target Want to be Near You, They Will Find Reason to Linger…
5> If you are With Someone, A Secondary Target May Wait but not Interupt…

I’ll Had Each of These Happen Numerous Times While Using and Testing P83… These Things have Happened Both With P83 Alone and in Combo with IO or IH… Age Range has Been Rather Limited as to Where I was Testing… Ages Ranged from 19-24 Years of Age at the Local Campus Coffe Shop Near the Nursing School…

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Hey yep that could be it. Hurts like a bitch when you spray any alcohol based product on sunburn even if its a small mild burn.

I still wonder if your confusing the feeling of sensitive for weak. Your a guy so that would be easy to do just as women can confuse male feelings they are not used to having. P83 seems to work with certain senses. Maybe some masculine mones with it can offset that feeling.

Tisha

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I would be interested for you guys to observe if there is more touching and displaying when exposed. Not by you by your targets.

Tisha

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Opps, I Forgot to Put That… There Does Seem to Be ALOT of Leaning In and More Touching… It Seems that as Time Goes On they Tend to Lean in and Scoot the Chairs Closer… It’s Like a Magnet Almost…
Sorry, I’m TIRED and Going on about 5 Hours Sleep the Past 2 Days… :stuck_out_tongue: