Looking back over some ancient posts, it sounds like PheroProof packs a strong punch. Has anyone ordered it lately? (I tried posting the old link but my post was blocked…) Would appreciate more comparisons to Ammo and TUTH.
What is WAGG? Also, has anyone succeeded in purchasing PheroProof lately? Looking back through the forum there was talk of some member named Futurist selling it? What’s the current situation?
wow you find aquagen better than alpha7?
Aquagen was for the most time useless for me. Never did anything on its own except for some weird occurences I observed but that was all.
Maybe, but Pheroproof is no longer available. Without disclosing anything more, watch for SteveO’s post’s over the next week or two! 
NOPE! Futurist and Pheroproof are gone. I believe Futurist said at one point that it was too expensive to make to keep selling.
Ain’t gonna happen. Androtics manufactured it for Futurist and he no longer has them produce it, nor anyone else. And Androtics ethics are to high to offer Pheroproof outside of whatever agreement they had with Futurist. 
That’s really sad to know. I wish there was a way to keep it available. I have written enough about Pheroproof and I am now saving it only for important occasions. This and A314 were the two most important products I tried, which made me go, wow can pheromones really do that?
I am stoked to try Steveo’s ICM mix now.
Some Lovescent pherojuice. What A Great Guy. I have no idea what it is (I started a thread on it, BTW), you put two drops on and it produces a very relaxed feeling in you, and everybody around you. It’s like Instant Female Magic without the Alan Alda.
Some have posited that it is just androstenol, but I don’t get the androstenol chattiness with it, at least to the degree I can get with Instant Openness- perhaps it is Androstenol but it would be a very clever blend. I have normal conversations with people, thoroughly normal. It’s good using around men. I wish I knew exactly what it was, as it is very hard to describe the effect. It does seem to produce a reduction is social anxiety in the wearer and targets. I don’t believe it has androsterone, but I could be wrong on this one.
It works great with Instant Shine, as well.
I may try Scent of Eros one of these days and see how well that works as a social pheromone, too. I need something oil based that works for a long time, that has no androstenone, yet doesn’t convey the “Salary Man” image of A314. Perception seems good in this regard, but it has some -none.
Sprays are excellent, though, for making a fast impression on strangers. They just have alot of self-effects and roller-coaster mood stuff on me. I think they are all good, honestly- use the right tool for the job.
I have the roller ball SOE, and i find it a bit hard to use, and hard to measure the dosage, the smell is great, very pleasant and clean (i have the scented musk version), but the smell doesnt seem to last very long, after about two hours, the smell/scent pretty much disappears. maybe i’m not using enough, but like i said its hard to measure the dosage(especially when you apply to your neck), have to work the roller ball a bit.
There’s not a lot of info here about Scent of Eros, since it’s not an Androtic product, obviously. Application is described in terms of inches, since it is a roller bottle. You’ll find more information in the forums of the retailer. I’ve given it a rest for the time being, but when I used it, I applied 4 inches to each wrist, a couple inchest to the back of my neck, and about 4 inches down the sides of my jawline.
The last few weeks have been pretty hectic and eventful, leading up to my surgery, so I haven’t really been able to isolate what sort of hits or reactions I may have gotten. It is a product that works for many people, and James Kohl is a really intelligent scientist who takes his research seriously, so I’d definitely recommend you try it out. The other site also has it in the form of sample gelpacks, but the rollon bottle isn’t too expensive. A common combo is to use it in conjunction with NPA, but you’ve already found you’re a bit sensitive to -none. As you may also be aware, SoE contains no -none, so you shouldn’t have any adverse affects with it.
-D4
I was thinking of trying Scent of Eros, just because I believe androstenone does very little for me. I’ve been using Perception, and it’s great for some things, but I believe I’ll save it for the future. If I get any exercise at all, I feel like I’m on a -none OD. Anxiety, nerves, etc. I don’t need that really. Now that I know what -none OD is very well, I think it’s very easy for me to OD on androstenone. I need to keep a cool image, not a bundle of nerves and energy.
Androtics should really consider a version of Ammo without androstenone, and maybe a small amount of beta-androstenol (maybe even 50/50, but I deffer to wiser minds in this one)- we wolves like having some deep conversations too, ya know, and don’t like being pestered with yakkers much, either. Put it in an oil form, etc. (truthfully I’d even settle for a spray, I guess). A nice social pheromone mix for lone wolves. Maybe put a wolf on the bottle, that would be cool. Heh heh.
The rest of their products are great and I love a dash of Instant Shine in everything, however I feel they need to add a few more “base” products to cover everybody. Maybe others disagree? As it is, otherwise, Instant Gentleman is probably my new base. WAGG seems good too, but it doesn’t last at all on its own and doesn’t seem to be as heavily “uncle”, which I find useful in such situations (what would Gegogi call it, “daddy”?)
I think SOE is still a great product (made by a well-known pheromone scientist), smells great, not too strong very refreshing. you just need to get used to the roller ball, me i much prefer spray, no messing around, just spray n go, takes 2 seconds.