REPORT: Feedback on Instant Shine and need advice on mixes

Hi all,

The report is in. This was the mixed used:

1X Pherlure on front neck
2X TUTH in the back of neck and lower part of head
2X Instant Openess on back of ears

The result: NO CHANGES WERE OBSERVED, IT SEEMS LIKE THE PHEROMONES HAD NO EFFECT.

I went to a night club, where smoking is prohibited, so technically there were only drinks being served. All the pheromones smelled good, but didn’t see any reactions, everything was as normal. I talked to a couple of girls for a couple of minutes, but got the same response as when I am not wearing anything. To tell you the truth, I feel a little dissappointed that this might have been a waste of money, but I will keep wearing them until I run out to see if I ever get any different response. Will keep reporting.

Also, I have used IS during work hours, and no reaction nor effect had the pheromones on people, it was just as if I was wearing nothing.

My advise to all the new people, buy the travel sized pheromones, so you can try it on your own, to see if it has any effect on you.:frowning:

In conclusion, my rating of pheromones so far is 1 STAR out of 5. I ordered some other ones to try, and will post results.

I think most of us as phero-newbies find that it takes a month or more of experimentation before we get an idea of their effects, which can be subtle (Pherlure’s advertising may not have prepared you for that idea!) … but never fear, you can return any of the Androtics consumer products within a year if you’re not happy with them.

One thing you might try is to use just one product at a time until you discover what it does for you. Mixing too early will only confuse matters.

I know it can be a little disappointing when there appears that no predictable results can be noticed, and that is exactly what seemed to be the scenario during the first week of my pheromone use, after having used a brilliant bombshell of a product over 10 years ago, ( no ones even heard of it now when i try and buy it ) any way not even a skerrick of a hit for well over a week, So i still slopped the stuff on and then Wham yes a really big hit with the girl working in a pharmacy after about 8 days, i am not going in to detail here, but i could see the astonishing effect i was having upon this poor young white girl, and at the time i knew nothing about the different pheromones or how they worked, It turned out the product was labeled to contain androstenone, how much i dont know, having said this the hits do not flow always in a predictable manner, or like a programmed machine, that is why some guys are called PHEROMASTERS, they have spent time and money to work out what suits their chemistry and also the prevaling conditions which they will work under, and as sure as any artist can create a masterpeice that is what this is about in a way when we create a workable mix that can be effective most times. With a little patience and experimentation worthwhile results are sure to follow.
I dont really look for the hits personally, I mix apply make a note of the mix and i go out and do my shit and dont dwell on the fact that i am loaded, and i can honestly say often i am pleasantly suprised when i least expect it, But no way do any pheromones perform like a loaded six gun.:cool:

Try the Instant Openness maybe on lower front of you body where it might get out more. I’ve found a number of occasions when wearing it people just blabber on and on. But it can take about 5 to 10 minutes of exposure before things get rolling.

-none prodcuts like Turn Up The Heat can be tricky. IMO it can sometimes work against you. I’ve had at least one “target” almost literally curl up in a defensive ball (using Primal Instinct). After I tempered it with some a314 the reactions were better.

There are a lot of factors to consider in using pheromones.

  1. Pheromones used
  2. Amount used.
  3. Application method.
  4. Application points.
  5. Body chemistry.
  6. Temperature.
  7. Airflow.
  8. Proximity to target.
  9. Emotional state of target.
  10. Menstrual cycle placement of target (some pheromones, if target is female).
  11. Exposure time.
  12. Your attitude.
  13. Your body language.
  14. Your choice of words and actions.
  15. How observant you are.
  16. Your understanding of body language and IOIs.
  17. Target’s personality (bold, shy, etc.)
  18. Target’s comfort level with situation.
  19. target’s comfort level with YOU.
    20 Target’s state of singleness or lack thereof.
  20. And others.

So… keep in mind that your expectations after reading all of the posts and ads may not be realistic. Also keep in mind that it takes time, field work, and you have to know which pheromones and how much of them to wear to get the right effect. If you’re just starting off, I strongly suggest you use only one product at a time until you are familiar with how each one works and what effects you get over time with each dose. Can’t stress that enough. So… suspend your expectations and go learn all about one product for a while.

Hi all,

Yes, I was just doing some reporting on the effects obtained with the mix above. My next tactic is going to be catlord’s, I am going to start using 1 pheromone at the time, to kinda try to measure results. I think that body chemistry might have something to do with it. Maybe I need 4X to get the same results that someone else would get with 1X. I will keep reporting for all of you who are new to the phero-world. By the way I live in NYC, does anybody lives in the city?, maybe we can hang out to see what effects we get.

I am gonna start with IS, as it seems to be the most easy one to use.
If someone could tell me for 1 Spray of IS where should I put it, back of neck?, back of ears?, front of neck?, back of hands?, lower part of head? any advise from pheromasters?. Thanks to all of you who have replied.

Location of application depends on desired results. For affecting others, apply away from face. Wrists and backs of hands are good.

Instant Shine: First Night
Summary: You better believe it really works.
I chased my Fedex package to beautiful suburban Skokie in order to get it today – the building intercom is OOC, so no deliveries.
I used four sprays of Instant Shine (2x strength) as follows

  1. 5:45 pm, to face, from about 8 inches
  2. 6:45 pm, to face, also from about 8 inches
  3. 8:45 pm, to neck, from about 1 inch
  4. 10:15 pm, to face, from about 10 inches
    Here are some of the more unusual events that I am attributing to IS.
  • Eating dinner, the young (24-29ish, 7.8) lady (solo) seated next to me came close to jumping in my lap when she “borrowed” some cream for her coffee.

  • The (20ish, 7.5) bus boy lit up like a Christmas tree, smiling, delivering great table attention; he later followed me into the mens room and stayed a few minutes – we talked and washed hands together.

  • When I hopped a bus, I noticed that the driver looked cramped and mentioned that – he’s apparently 6’7" tall; we launched an unusual conversation about small spaces, submarines (I was a QM2 submariner) and Dec. 7th/Pearl Harbor … also distinctive because I only rode 1/4 mile (the temp is 14F here) but it felt like the next step was to become fast friends.

  • My nearest neighborhood bar/hangout is an “all lifestyles” sports bar that caters to hetero-, bi-, homo-, trans-, inter- and asexual folk of any anatomy, race, age, and gender identification. It’s a circus, and a neighborhood institution I value highly.) Playing pool, Mike (26, 8.5), a flight attendant from Boston slowly transformed from forbidding “stand and model” to kittenish with megawatt smile; he explained that his boyfriend wasn’t joining him until tomorrow night. The posse of boys and girls Mike was with also appeared to be flirting with me (or perhaps just rooting for Mike.)

  • In the midst of this interchange with Mike, a somewhat drunk fellow my age came over and asked me “Why are these youngsters doing backflips for you?” I replied “I beg your pardon? Backflips?” and he elaborated enough to give me an “independent confirmation.”

  • A delicious young woman (25-32, 8.8) had a mutual friend introduce her and then engaged me in a conversation related to food (my line of work) and the game of food styling (“live” plate presentation as well as dressing food for photography/video.)

None of the above is routine in any way, lol. I was … astonished is a good word. There were additional IOIs – but also a number of folks, people I’m familiar with, that I thought “She or he will certainly respond somehow” who behaved, as far as I can tell, as if they did not notice anything. Hunh, go figure!


The feeling that **~**I~ got from Instant Shine was immediate, and refreshing. The first spray, I thought “I know someone who wears this!” but couldn’t identify who it is. My awareness of and ability to “read” social situations and interactions seemed to become more acute.

Jasmin: The neroli scent does fade enough that I can wear IS on the job as long as I spray an hour or so before arriving. I’m glad of that! I’m waiting to see what effects it might have.


Now, some speculation:

Perhaps one of the social / behavioral loops that IS (or any pheromone) might trigger is something like this:

  • I’m using IS (or pheromone X) and I like it…

  • I feel good (pro’lly my pupils are dilated a bit!)

  • No one knows that I’m using IS (or pheromone X)!

  • I’ve got a secret! (Muhahahwa!)

  • I’m appreciating the people and situations around me more as my consciousness changes …
    Okay, that would pretty much be the same vibe that someone who is stoned at a social gathering (but not openly stoned) gives off, right? Alternatively, you might think of it as a sort of “I’m in love with the world” kind of mode.

In any case, it does tend to attract positive attention. :smiley: Wouldn’t you like to be appreciated by someone who is stoned/high on life? Someone who looks at you with a sensually acute appreciation (and tends to see you at your best) and doesn’t judge?

Who wouldn’t?

When people talk about a “letdown” after a few hours “up” on IS, that makes perfect sense to me if they’ve been spending the additional social energy to “extend” the shine to everyone around them, and it especially makes sense if they’ve felt they have to be “on” in that way non-stop for hours.

Even smiling for four hours is tiring, until you build the musculature to endure, heh!

Wow, Mark, great report!

I got to try Shine all by itself more. And guess what: I will do that today! Thanks for the inspiration!

Extremely perceptive, MarkL! Reputation points to you.

Feedback: I met with a business partner, meeting was planned for 2 hours, we have had these meetings before. I had been wearing A314 + IS around her before. This time I wore IS only (3 sprays at 2x strength). The meeting took 7 hours, much better rapport than ever before and she still did not want to let me go.

GREAT :cool: :cool: :cool:

i like your only decimal scoring system mark :smiley: :smiley:

not all 8’s are the same after all!

matt