Hedione’s primary function in perfumery is to provide a light Jasmine note to scents, so I reckon a pheromonallly effective dose would probably be below the scent threshold altogether.
IMO the best way would be to treat it like just another phero and start testing with one small spray or a couple of dabs, then work-upwards.
A glass rod applicator might be very useful here - I’ve recently been experimenting with another product with supposed pheromonal properties and found controlled application off the end of a rod the best way to manage minimal-scent doses - because it flaming honks on initial application but does dry-down nicely.
I transferred mine to a 30ml bottle.. So whatever dose that will give you per spray.
I don’t think having your signature stolen is probable with this. When I wear it, I’m stealing the attention of the majority of ladies.. And all the attention is on me.
I don’t think they would detected it from the actual “smell” because to me it seems really subtle.. Plus I’ve pulled some DIHL from quite a distance away. I would say the attraction comes just as a regular pheromone does - heck, the studies showed that it signaled the pheromone receptors in humans, so I would almost say its safe to say it works just like a pheromone.
I agree with mobocaster here..
I tried dabs the first day.. And it worked out really well..
Then sprays the next day and that too worked out pretty well.
My guess is you don’t really need too much. But more tests will tell.
Alright so I really want to share my results of this stuff lately..
Here’s what happened today, this morning..
Test…
2 sprays TUTh 2.5 mcg each 30ml
2 sprays TAC 10 mcg each 30ml
3-4 sprays Hedione 30ml
I sprayed this on around the neck with TUTh layered with TAC and Hedione on a different area of my neck. Little ms. Sunshine came over for some morning play.
When she got here, she was excited to see me. Hugs and kisses. Literally jumped into my arms.
When we got down to business, the sex was great. Very many orgasms and she was as has been with Hedione - wanting to take charge and attack me and go wild.
But I’ve noticed something also different lately. Since adding Hedione, she also wants to spend a lot of time talking about the past and reminiscing and just telling me things. She sat and talked to me for like an hour and half about stuff after sex. She was so adamant to talk that she even cause herself to be late to where she needed to go.. Like an hour late. And this is the second time she’s done that, both times I was wearing Hedione. And she NEVER is late to stuff when she is with me. She also was speaking with great motivation to do new and productive things with her life.
Accordingly, I would say Hedione lives up to the scientific research.
It causes some sort of sexuality and it also triggers areas of the brain that are associated with memory and motivation. I think it’s also safe to safe she had some emotional activity increases too because she was being very understanding.
If Hedione works well with more rone based mones like A314 or IG.
That scientists claim Hedione increase sexual responsiveness, and that its not an enone based mone, might help with younger users (who simply cannot add too much enone) and users having congruency issues using enone.
It certainly worked on its own, I’d settled-on Azzaro Chrome as a sexually effective but widely wearable cologne some time before I got started with pheros. Prior to that my most sexually effective colognes were pretty heavy-going/hard-hitting scents that were really only for the night-time realm but too strong for work/polite company.
And some of my most effective/memorable results have been with Chrome as a cover scent with Status/sexual mixes. Most notably A314 and TUTH or NPA. And status/emotional engagement/professional mixes, again most notably A314/IH/P74 and TUTH/P96.
To take this a bit further - and because the main Jasmine scent molecule and Hedione are so similar and there are a number of sexual/attractive properties attributed to Jasmine, I’ve ordered-up some natural Jasmine scent to try a comparison with my Hedione product.
The results were great again today.. Hedione, TAC, and TUTH. The Hedione really takes the TAC/TUTH combo off the charts. Lately most noticeably, the sex is way better, and there is much talking about past events and motivational speeches haha. Literally, this girl has been telling me about good times in the past and just things that’s happened. Sort of life story gut spilling activity. Also what seems to be most notable is she never attempts to leave my presence and often runs late to appointments. These are things she hadn’t done a week and a half prior before I had Hedione. Usually after sex, she would be ready to go. Now it’s almost as if she doesn’t plan on leaving.
My old and I mean OLD time favorite is Passion for Men. Received many compliments over the years and now use two sprays along with mones in separate location.
Will mix 40% Hedione with 60% Passion. Small amount for test. Hoping this will result in a potent great scent if I am lucky and have no experience with this.
Passion for Men was launched in 1989. Top notes are orange, fruity notes, galbanum, bergamot, lemon, neroli and lavender; middle notes are carnation, sandalwood, patchouli, cinnamon, balsam fir, jasmine, cedar, geranium and nutmeg; base notes are tonka bean, amber, benzoin, oakmoss, vanilla, styrax, musk and vetiver.
My Hedion and TAC should arrive this week. If so, will test 3-4 sprays cologne mix, TAC 10mcg x 2, TUTH 2.5 mcg x 3, next weekend in intimate setting.
AMMO,TUTH,IS,IO,IH, A314 in stock. TAC 10mcg, P96 15mcg, P79 freebie, on order.
Faint jasmine tea smell, which only seemed to get stronger after about an hour. Total time from application to not being able to smell it was about 5 hours. For Singapore, that’s about as good as you get.
Applied 3 dabs (in total) adjacent to mone application points: one spray each of 2X IS and 2X Ammo.
Casual responses seemed stronger. I know for sure at least two of these were due to the addition of hedione, because customer service staff in sg are not nearly that smiley on their own
My date was ultra handsy. This is a girl who’s as sharp as a whip and doesn’t rely on men, and yet she was purring like a kitten over dinner. What part of it was me, the mones, or the hedione, I have yet to figure out, but it’s looking promising.
It was first isolated from Jasmine in very small quantities yes but Hedione itself is a synthetic molecule. Although the similarity is strong, there are several differences between Hedione and the natural Jasmonate molecule.
Hed is interesting stuff. I make my own colognes so I picked some up. Not sure about its phero qualities 100% yet, as I have done limited testing, but it smells frickin awesome! I have gotten several comments from ladies as to how good it smells. I need to research it some more. In the meantime, I am working it into some of my homebrew colognes. I think it can be a killer base for a number of them. And if it ends up having phenomenal qualities, then all the better. More to come..
As a pheromone? Not in my experience. The scent is fairly light, but all scents have their breaking point.
I’m amazed it’s taken everyone this long to get on the Hedione bandwagon - I’ve been sitting here all alone for over a year now.
For maximal pheromonal effects, as well as diffusion, I’d recommend using the High-cis (HC) version of Hedione, preferably in combination with Timbersilk and High-gamma Iso E Super.
Received Hedione today, 3 1/2 days from order to my PO Box by first class mail from west coast to east coast.
3 ml passion + 2 ml Hedion in a 5 ml togo. Used syringe for accurate measure. They combined much faster than I anticipated and have not separated. The passion is a light amber, Hedion is clear.
2 sprays of cologne alone is the MTD for me and under my shirt. Started with mix 2 sprays collar bone, added 1 spray lower neck then 1 spray chest. Still not overpowering like cologne alone so could spread more.
The mix is a little oily and takes longer to dry. Hedion has little to no scent to my nose.
