Rob's Journal

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Hey everyone, just thought I’d create a journal where i can start to share some experiences I have had with pheromones, Recently I purchased IO, IH, IS and the Summer Edition of AMMO.

About me: I’m 17, Caucasian, Generally outgoing in most situations, I have alot of strange social interactions already, from Australia, am generally good at making observations of others, and I am a sceptical sort of guy, however always willing to try.

So I have not had that much time to test out pheromones and will continue to update this journal but these are my results so far.
Everything is normal strength, Also the first 6 days literally I had not much social interaction, excluding going to the gym which really isn’t the best place, to test out.

Day 1
Summer Ammo 1 spray to the neck
IO 1 spray to the forearms

Self Effects; Felt more confident and sexual, could be just placebo effect no idea.
Smell; Pretty good
Hits; Nothing out of the ordinary, other than eye contact from randoms at the gym, and being more fluent in my conversation. But didn’t really have that much social interaction that day

After showering
IS 3 sprays

Self Effects; Was overly excited, and positive.
Hits; Played halo with my brother and dad who normaly doesn’t play, had a pretty fun time

Day 2
Summer Ammo 2 sprays to the neck
IO 2 sprays to the forearms

Self Effects; Same as before more confident
Hits; Generally middle aged females were more aggressive to me when they talked yet managed to remain polite if that makes sense. Hottest girl in the school had a conversation at the gym with me, she seemed fine having a chat, but I wouldn’t consider that a hit.

Day 3
P102 4 sprays (One chest, two neck, one arms)

Hits/Self Effect; Self effects were essentially all I got from this, and hey may of being placebo. It felt like I had taken a pre-workout (essentially a ton of stimulants, caffeine, taurine ect), after feeling this I had some of my actual pre-workout and hit the gym. On the way I had high levels of concentration, my eyes were darting around like crazy like I was scanning for threats or something weird. Anyway got to the gym and managed to break a PB on the bench press, besides being on the “cutting” phase of my diet, This stuff is good for working out.

Day 7
IH x2 (arms)
Self Effects; None, my left nostril feels weird as if it needs to sneeze but I have also being punched
Hits; So first day back to school, I actually have enough time to test out a mone, Firstly my friend tells me something about nude pics from girls (wasn’t really listening) as well as people who have being fingered, this wasn’t that out of the ordinary people tend trust me all the time no idea why.
Anyway first class back pretty rowdy, bit of eye contact and jokes with the ladies but nothing special.
At recess the ‘hottest girl in the school’ who i talked to a couple days before was looking out the corner of her eye at me while waiting for people to pass through a narrow corridor, as if she was expecting for me to say hi. Chemistry got interesting, my mate on the right wanted me to go to his spare and was saying how he missed me, but not really that out of the ordinary.
Most of my other classes were normal as i was sitting next to the same person who is very introverted. Walking to the train station was interesting as at one stage my friends girlfriend grabbed me by my arms with quite a strong grip and pulled me to walk with her and her BF, and my other friend who just recently emerged said “hey robs my walking down the hill buddy”
Unlike the othermones i actually noticed a difference in interactions at the gym, i had someone i knew for 7 years ago say i should compete in powerlifting hahahha, and others stop by to say hi.

Anyway Thanks if you actually read all that, Got any tips would appreciate it. If I am further convinced I reckon I’ll grab some Instant Gentlemen and maybe a togo of A314 haha.

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Day 8
IS 1 spray to chest
IH 2 sprays to arms
IO 2 sprays to arms
Summer Ammo 1 and a half sprays (neck)

Self Effects; Nothing noticeable, I could smell my self easily and probably others could too
Hits; More eye contact than usual but could be a coincidence. Teacher middle age women was actually nice to me which isn’t normal. But didn’t really have much that much interaction to test this mix out.
Gonna try a ton of 4 or 5 sprays of IO tomorrow to see what happens

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It’s nice to see fellow teens posting here in Journals.

With tons of spraying on IO, I used a ton as well at my workplace. I noticed 0 results, but that’s just me. Only did it once. Plus I didn’t want to be wasting that stuff, it’s super expensive x.x

IH doesn’t necessarily have this effect on people by itself, but is great for what it does do. I want to contribute this reaction instead from the time when you wore SE Ammo around her the few days before. You probably imprinted her mind with your SE Ammo. It wasn’t till later when you left her, she realized how “interesting” you are…This happens with a bunch of people. Effects take some imprinting first for the people to act on those feelings towards you.

Try using a certain mix of stuff for a few days or keep it relatively the same if you are around same people over and over again; because what you may find is reactions from the mix you wore the previous day, and today, those people are comfortable with sharing the feelings that they had for you before. This is why you are supposed to test with Strangers as not doing so, can often skew your results if you change mixes too often.

I had this happen to me before at work. I wore regular Ammo, from 1 to 3 sprays for a few days, first time trying out pheromones. After those days, I dropped Ammo and switched to something else. I had the 3 female co-workers I work with (~25, ~40, and ~20s) come up to me and ask why I wasn’t wearing my cologne I had on before with them. It’s funny, because they showed no reactions from when I wore it around them those first few days, so this stuff works in their heads, even if they don’t show it. After they made it obvious they liked it, I had more open compliments from them and had one of them staring at me for a day. Along with congruency of my vibe(s) and different kinds of mone exposure on them, I am now great friends with each of them.

I hope you know about having to be congruent with the vibe you are sending out right? Wear SE Ammo, you can’t be the one to look all wimpy if you catch my drift.

This correlates with the environment you are in. Some people have problems with Alpha Nols (what IO is made mostly of) working in school/college classroom settings. This is often because no one talks to begin with during a lecture, so you can’t expect much results from an alpha nols blend like IO to work wonders here. If your class is a very verbal one to begin with, then sure, go ahead, just know that if you aren’t in the setting best matching your vibe, you’re aren’t going to be getting the most potential those pheros have to offer.

Also don’t be afraid to venture out to other mone vendors as well. You may find something else that works for you better than what is offered here (not dissing Androtics, just saying :stuck_out_tongue:)

some random p.s.'s:
don’t forget to keep track of any negative hits you may get as well.
keep your eyes super peeled for subtle hits. It is mostly what mones bring than blatant ones.

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Thankyou very much XyzN, Yes i’d gather instant honesty wouldn’t have that particular effect, I’ll definitely take your advice and test out a mix for a longer amount of time to see its more lasting effects. If you have examples of any other products I’d be happy to check them out. Thanks

Day 9
IH x 4
Some Boss Cologne

No idea why I decided to try this much IH out just wanted to see if I got a reaction
Self Effects; None
Hits; Had the same banter in the morning with the same person from Day 7 little less calibre of weirdness, Sat next to a girl in assembly who has being in my house (sort of like Gryffindor or Ravenclaw houses in Harry Potter, except not that extreme) for 4 years and I have had little interaction with her, Well sitting next to me she had her legs crossed in my direction away from her male friend, and was making physical contact with me with her arm the whole time (not really that much of a hit, I know). Most of my classes, I noticed little as there wasn’t really that much talking.

However it was weird I had two people say things out of the ordinary to me. One was a dude who I haven’t spoken much to since last year and even then we weren’t really friends, He after I approached a group of guys and was having a chat with half of them randomly said outloud, “so your brother still a puff” Just seemed a really strange thing to say, especially since i haven’t talked to him for ages, and that was the first thing he said.

Later at the train station, I had being dared by a friend to make this sound which I can make which essentially sounds like a Nazgul (from Lord of the rings), anyway a girl right up told me in front of everyone I scream like a girl, one who I don’t think I’ve ever talked to, (normally girls who don’t know me never negatively confront me about anything I do)

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Hits are hits, regardless of how small… as long as they stick out to You as abnormal, then you can count it.

For instance, the girl calling you out on your scream. Perfect example of a hit, and one you’ll have to keep in mind when using IO or IH. Instant Honesty doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll tell you everything you Want to hear… sometimes the hits are “negative” and you find out things you didn’t really want to hear.

Excellent testing! Keep it up…

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Heed this call.

Wearing certain amounts of B-Nol (IH) has this effect. I’ve heard rather interesting stories of personal life with co-workers sometimes wearing B-Nol (ConnectionsXS).

Most people/I find if you use IH or B-Nol products, it’s best if you are the one to initiate conversation as people become somewhat more serious in my experiments and don’t open their mouths that much till approached, so opening them yourself will guide the way to their mind.

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Hey thanks guys for the advice, gotta love negative hits do you think Instant Shine could steer it in a more positive direction? As in decreasing people’s tendency for saying negative things?

Day 10
Summer Ammo x1 (neck)
IS x2 (neckish Chest)
So didn’t have much interaction to test on this but of the two classes I was at I noticed quite a bit. In Chemistry I sat with my usual mates and there was a seat gap between a girl and I, she literally kept asking me how to do things laughing away to my jokes and my weirdness and stuff. In maths, I got a little more eye contact than usual from these two girls who each I use to have a ‘thing (both close to something happening)’ with, anyway also worth mentioning one of my best friends literally invaded my personal space like leaning over to/on me for at least a minute, I thought he was checking my work, I had to tell him “gee you’re a little close”.

Day 11
Summer Ammo 1x and a crapy halfish spray, (Neck)
IS x2 (Neck/Chest)

Self Effects; Interestingly the confidence effect is less noticeable but I seemed to make a lot more dominate eye contact (not as creepy as it sounds)
OK so today was pretty good, During Biology the “hottest girl in school” (from day 2 and 7) girl was throwing mini paper aeroplanes around to her friend, then she threw one in my general direction, was gonna throw it back but the teacher was staring at me. Maths also featured the same sorta eye contact from those girls from the previous day, not much but worth noting. Also Lunch featured that girl from chemistry (from day 10) abnormally laughing when I said ‘hey boys and girls’ to her and her friend. After school when I was out shopping I got a bit more eye contact than usual, perhaps most notably was walking across the road and looking to the right seeing three girls two metres from me looking at me then immediately their eyes darted away.

Decided IS and Ammo is a mint combo, and so far I’m most likely going to purchase these two and perhaps IG (as in the bigger bottles), Should I experiment with higher values of IS or AMMO?

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Yes, IS and Ammo is a great combo, if not the most popular combo here at Androtics.

Although people tend to get regular Ammo instead of Summer Ammo when planning to combo it with IS because SE Ammo has one of the same molecules/pheromone in Instant Shine already.

Then what people do is either solo or combo the two for the correct setting/situation.
Ex:
Use Ammo solo for really getting things sexual
Use Instant Shine solo for purely social moments
Use the combo together to basically make a slightly-more-sexual/serious version of SE Ammo.

If you use SE Ammo + IS instead, you wont be able to achieve the high sexual moments you may want down the road, but you are young as am I and will probably not need regular Ammo and benefit a lot more from SE Ammo (only testing will prove otherwise). I myself have regular Ammo and seem to be doing okay with it at 19yrs old around 20s something girls as well as older ones.

Since you are still early into phero testing and if you wanted to, you could go up more on the (SE right?) Ammo you are using. I think you’ll see more blatant negative/positive effects than IS would have, just my opinion.

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Yes, IS and Ammo is a great combo, if not the most popular combo here at Androtics.

Although people tend to get regular Ammo instead of Summer Ammo when planning to combo it with IS because SE Ammo has one of the same molecules/pheromone in Instant Shine already.

Then what people do is either solo or combo the two for the correct setting/situation.
Ex:
Use Ammo solo for really getting things sexual
Use Instant Shine solo for purely social moments
Use the combo together to basically make your slightly-more-sexual version of SE Ammo.

If you use SE Ammo + IS instead, you wont be able to acheive the high sexual moments you may want down the road, but you are young as am I and may not need regular Ammo and benefit a lot more from SE Ammo. I myself have regular Ammo and seem to be doing okay with it at 19yrs old around 20s something girls as well as older ones.

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Mmmm good advice I’ll try two full sprays of SE Ammo at school tomorrow, then check out three sprays the following day. Just a little concerned people can smell me.

OK so
Day 12
IS x1 (neck)
IH x4 (forearms)
IO x4 (forearms)

Thought I would have a ton of this stuff on to see if I got some reactions.
Self effects; None
Hits; About 30 minutes after applying I randomly ran into a mate and his GF (same one from day 7). I was walking with them and all but they seemed like they really didn’t want to interact, Fair enough. Got to the gym, I’m a regular in forgetting my card to get in, and normally still have to go up to the desk, but the guy from the desk saw me approach him and immediately let me in with me saying a word. Gym was empty but there was a girl near me looked latin american possibly Greek (I couldn’t tell) around 15-16 years old, anyway she gave me a look immediately when I walked into her sight and gave me a lot of eye contact throughout the rest of the session. Also two other older but similar looking girls did give me a bit of eye contact too, but I left shortly after they arrived. Perhaps my pheromones have confused the hell out of them, maybe they think they know me haha.

Day 12
Had a shower decided to apply
ISx3
Self effects; Was a bit more positive
Hits; Not enough interaction really

Day 13
Decided to test out a great mix and had no pheromones on, had frequent showering to sort of get rid of any residual left overs.

I’ve being using conventional soap, got any recommendations would love to hear, I’ve seen some people say zest soap? Or are the mones that I am using in particular not needing of such cleansing. which would be IS, IH, IO, Summer Edition AMMO and Instant Gentlemen (which I am planning to try out soonish)

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SE Ammo still has androstenone in it and is still sticky as regular Ammo, so don’t discount it at all.

I’ve seen people recommend mostly witch hazel and others use Benzoyl Peroxide wash for getting mones off.

The pheromones you put on, namely through Alcohol sprays, bind to your skin, they become a part of you. This is why people report on day-after-hits sometimes even after showering. They mix with your own natural scent. You can’t wash off every trace of pheromones, keep in mind what may become a part of you.

I’m beginning to become aware of the different natural pheromone scents, mostly -none’s sweet and sweaty pungey smell, personally I like it and can see why girls would too.

After getting hits from a certain someone at work from my Ammo usage around her, she also comments on the scent. She first told me it was awesome and I should keep wearing it. Later on, I began putting on too much/too soon. This resulted in her telling me I was wearing too strong cologne.

I am assuming that the natural scent of -none and FF21 was a good combo with her, when FF21 wasn’t overbearing. (and IMO, it is a good combo). FF21 is so strong though, so upping the scent strength with additional sprays is not recommended in my book…this is where the x2 strengths come in handy. Also, I apply Ammo for work about 15 to 20 mins early, so that the scent dies down a bit. Since the mones themselves stay for hours, don’t have to worry about the effectiveness at all.

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Thanks I’ll have to start using witch hazel, XyzN that is quite awesome how you can recognise the -none pheromone. Yeah I do notice the smell does die down pretty quickly, or perhaps my nose gets use to it and I stop noticing it.

Ok so
Day 14
Summer Edition Ammo 2 Sprays (one spray front of neck, one to the back of the neck)
Instant Shine two sprays (both to the chest)

Self effects; Perhaps I’ve gotten use to it not sure.
Hits; Really only one class today so not much interaction today for testing, sat next to a girl who I’ve had a history with and we are currently not talking to each other(teenage drama right). Didn’t say a word to one another the whole time, I kept away and did my work, but her leg was angled towards me. I’ve heard none can encourage extremes so hopefully she won’t try and kill me later. Notably walked past the “hottest chick in school chick” in the locker room didn’t really see until I by chance looked to the left and there she was, she was giving a happy face to me, (as in less than a polite smile but still happy) perhaps I just caught her with that face on or something, no idea.

I’m finding it interesting that she seems to be a reoccurring theme, maybe I focusing on those IOIs from her in partiuclar or maybe she just likes the mones or even me(lol jks), also should mention I’m 98.5% sure she is in a relationship.

Also getting a bit more eye contact than usual from the either the very attractive or the not so, seems to be little middle ground. Also should mention I got some looks from these two hispanicishy greek girls(It’s hard to tell in Australia), very attractive.

So far Pheromones are pretty convincing, but it seems it’s more the subtle hits, or the increasing of the likelihood of certain things to happen. I’ll be ordering some Summer Ammo and Instant Gentlemen tomorrow.

I’m Thinking 3 sprays Ammo tomorrow with some shine, got any recommendations on how much shine, or if I should include a social? Would love to hear any other advice too
Thanks

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I usually roll with 3-4 sprays of IS when I use 3 sprays of Ammo. I’m only use 1x strength so it dissapates quickly since I’m at school all day. Maybe apply 1-2 sprays and re-apply during lunch. I enjoyed reading your journal btw.

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Once you learn to appreciate the effects of pheromones, both subtle and blatant, you’ll find a new found respect for them :stuck_out_tongue:.

But yes, the effects are mostly subtle. Blatant Ammo hits will mainly be from Confident/Alpha girls.

Ammo / Se Ammo have -rones in them as well, Those are alpha/respect mones, so you may see better respect from males, if you’ve reported already idk. I may order IG myself with points I have acquired over time. I was going to get more Ammo as mine is almost gone or some Putative like p74. If you do get to using IG, I’d be happy to hear about any or no results.

On Instant Shine, applying it to your chest, imo, is not the best spot. You slow the diffusion in such a spot if it was under your shirt. Unless you were wearing a V-neck. For harder hitting effects, spray it somewhere where there is more heat and open skin (wrists, forearms, neck, etc.). Back of hands if wearing long sleeves. Instant Shine is usually something people don’t want to slow the diffusion of.

Also on doses, 2 to 3 sprays is usually enough without going too strong on the scent.

I would keep upping Ammo dosage till you hit the point where people (both males and females) start becoming unresponsive to you/ghost you. At that point, you bump back doses. I know the vets say young guys, us, should stick with 1 or 2 sprays, but you need to hit your max at one point. I wore a big amount of none one time to work (Ammo + S.O.B. from pheromoneXS) and my female co-worker who is late 30ish, became SUPER quiet/introverted than she normally was. So quiet, so that manager made note of why she was so quiet too. She said she didn’t know. There was nothing sexual from her though.

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Thanks Heymixx, seems like a good idea with rocking the high sprays of IS with Ammo, I’ll have to keep that in mind.

Xyzn would you know how much of -rone Ammo contains compared to Instant gentleman? Well in any event I just ordered some IG so I’ll hopefully be able to test it out and report on it in two or less weeks. Do you think the girl who became introverted from the ton of mones you wore was like that because she was intimidated? Or just got so much pheromone from you her brain got confused or something?

OK so
Decided to up the dose on the Summer Edition Ammo and just managed to see heymixx’s and Xyzn’s suggestions before applying, about upping the shine and putting it on other parts of my body, We do wear V necks in our uniform but I decided to try different locations in any event.

Summer Edition Ammo, 2 crap sprays 1 full one
(one back of neck, one front of neck and one chest)
IS either 2 or 3 sprays I cannot remember
(one to the hair, one to the arms and one to the chest)

Self Effects; Confidence is somewhat noticeable but nothing special
Hits; First non family member I see, a prefect who is on uniform patrol gave me a warm smile and says hi after I glanced quickly at her when walking past, I smiled back and all but yeh probably she was just being nice.
During maths, got no noticeable attention from the girls at all (only four of them).
The next class I had which is a class with people in the grade above, and thus I’m generally the odd one out so I sit with the popular girls (makes sense.com), anyway these girls are the so called alpha females and were paying less attention to me than they normally do, which is some but not much. Basically they had their bodies faced away from me when we were in the same group, but this was alternating to leaning back relaxed and legs crossed towards me, pretty sure looking at my arms (normal occurrence). During this class I got some looks from this girl who has being giving me these looks for a couple of days (forgot to mention), as well as a couple of looks and smiles from other girls.
OK also got some werid stares from two or three women around 40-50. It is worth noting that guys don’t seem to be affected negatively by my mones use at all, at least from what i have observed.
In any event the last class I had I got a bit of eye contact from the “hottest chick in school” (another reoccurring star from many previous days), and at one stage her whole body was angled towards me, it looked ridiculous as she was sitting in front and on the right of me, she seemed to be out of what I would think would be mone range around being around 3 metres from me, perhaps the crush effect but thats pretty laughable as she has a BF and is wayyyyyyyyyy hotter than me.

I reckon I’ll try out 3 full sprays of AMMO with 3 or 4 full sprays of IS.
Once again I love to hear any advice, or explanations you have on anything from my journal and would greatly appreciate it, Thanks.

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Maybe try spraying some Ammo on your Arms too that way you can get your scent around a bit more.
Ex: Reach in front of a girl for a piece of paper or something lol.

Regular Ammo has 7.5 mcg (Alpha Nols + Rones) + 2.5 none mones.
IG has 15mcg. With this you can say that IG has more rones and I think Alpha Nols are the other mone, not 100% sure, but I think so, they just remove the none.

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OK so Day 16 and Day 17

Day 16
IS 3 sprays
Ammo 3 full sprays one crap half spray

Self Effects; More than usual Confidence
Hits; Mmmmm didn’t have many classes and didn’t notice many hits at all, Other than a couple non-dramtic IOIs. However the confidence made me talk back to the teacher twice, was very direct in giving the notion that l am equal and she shouldn’t rule my bladder and lateness (she is very patronising). At the end of the lesson some very attractive girl randomly asked if I was going to genesis gym later, I said yeh and we had a mini convo"
My friend then told me that she had asked him why she sees me their tons, my friend did the bro thing and said “you serious have you seen the guy”
Thing is i’ve only seen her their once maybe twice.
Also at the end of the day I sore some dude doing cool tricks with a scooter, and I told him “cool skills bro” he didn’t know what I said and his mates started to surround me asking what did I say, Probably near got killed, I had my headphones In turned up my music and walked right through them.

Day 17
Ammo 1.5 to 2 sprays (one to the front and one to back of neck)
IS 2 sprays (upper chest)
IH 1 spray arms

Self effects; usual confidence stuff.
Hits; Well today was a lot more noticeable than yesterday, First class didn’t have much noticeable. My upper year class was funny (from day 15 or the previous post) we played some game where we had to guess in partners the answers as fast as possible, my partner “really hot” was getting really quite overly excited when we won points and had very open body language, once result in her giving me a massive hug. While the girl opposite of my table her bestie were sorta being aggressive to each other. Lunch was different, some girls had migrated to near my locker and were teasing me about something to do with how times I cannot talk properly. They were laughing like they were high it was funny around 2-3 metres from me but just us.

Noticed recently I’m getting more eye contact from girls in the hallways, the year level below who are near my locker in particular.

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Day 18

IS 2 sprays I recall
Summer Ammo 2ish sprays I recall

First class I was sitting next to a girl who seems to treat me different periodically, escalating from good flirty friends to hostile sick of each other acquaintances, Well regardless she was quite nice to me throughout the whole class, may just be because it’s being a while, no idea. Cannot remember much else of the day, was feeling quite out of it.

Day 19

IS 1 spray (chest)
Ammo 2.5 sprays (chest)
P102 4 sprays (neck)
Got a some looks at the gym, and a couple of stares on the tram. But some girl whenever she came near me looked spastic doing something weird with her face I could see in my peripheral vision. Workout was mintos too.

OK Instant Gentlemen will arrive soon perhaps in two days will continue to report on stuff hopefully in more detail.

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OK wow had some computer troubles/exams and am now back to report and yeah this is Rob12345 I attempted to change my contact email and it didn’t let me verify so I got a bit annoyed, well anyway back now.

I ended up getting IG and SE Ammo (big bottles) Didn’t have enough money to fork out for IS as well.

Since I ran out of IS I have found I am receiving less hits (I am only using IG and SE Ammo together now) I believe this mixture must be a little too intimidating for a school environment, or perhaps people are getting use to my scent, or I’m getting used to the hits or maybe a combination of both, who knows.

Regardless I’ll give you a general summary of the hits I am getting when I had the big combo (Including IS!)

IS x generally lots of sprays
IG x Did about 2 sprays (experimented with higher)
SE Ammo x 1/2 sprays
Experimented with this sorta mix for around a week

From this I got the lovely feet angle towards me, people giving me their jumpers when I ask(despite the temperature being cold enough to inconvenience them), bit more cocky I guess but always were, there were definitely hits with girls. Most noticeably there was a group of girls incredibly hawttttttt (two of them from the October 14th post the “Hispanicy greek girls”, they literally gave me a big stare when I was walking in their direction, as well as giggled when I tried to get past them on a different occasion, other stuff I can’t remember specifically too.

General mix and results from the “Without IS” time period ;(
IG x 2/3 Sprays
SE ammo 1/2 Spray

This mix is making me come off to others as arrogant I swear, but anyway not as many looks from the chicks, but seem to get some nice looks from some, but it seems worse than good in some cases. Male friends don’t sit with me that much and girls I don’t know well leave when I get near (at least happened twice.)

I’m planning on buying some more lovely pheromones, definitely getting IS double strength but also would like to either try out something else, Was looking at A-1 sorta products but heard about some sorta depression or crash that follows the use for some. well if you have any recommendations for anything including doses, mones (from any company), lovelife, ect.. would love to hear it thanks.
Rob12345/6 Out haha

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Yeah, if the girls are around your age, the younger ones, it’s to be expected that they would feel you’re a bit too intimidating with both IG & SE Ammo, the -rone output you’re putting out is kind of high with those doses.

Those 2 are actually the recommended products for the younger guys to use.
SE Ammo has one of the same molecules in IS in it too, so you may find SE Ammo actually better (or not), so I’d defiantly give that a solo try. Then try IG solo later. These 2 seem to do better solo than with each other for younger guys.

Here’s a nice quote from a member I had on my own journal:

This is probably why IS is giving you more hits.