Should people who have good game and confidence use mones?

Just curious on what your thoughts are…?

I find confidence and game gets me a lot farther than mones these days. I also find that on days I don’t wear mones I’m likely to not be concerned about how to act congruent, or if I’ll OD, or why people are giving me certain reactions.

I’m more myself, and woman can spot a fraud from miles away if your trying to act and your not a natural actor.

I still have my favorites:

IS/AMMO
AM
IS/AMMO/MS297

they do get reactions but nothing happens because my mind is to busy analyzing what the mones are doing instead of taking action.

When I don’t wear them I know I’m in the jungle and if I want to be fed I’ve got to hunt… know what I mean? :open_mouth:

dsouza

You do not have to act congruent for mones to work. Ahhh I am hating this whole congruent thing because people take it to far. Congruence is not whats important. Its not acting in opposition to the signal. So you dont have to act just go with the flow and character of the mix. Blend it with your own character.

As far as using them when you already have confidence and game…

Think of it this way. Suppose you have great hair. Should you not wash it or comb it because its great hair to begin with. Of course not.

You can enahnce a great thing. Thats all your doing with mones.

Tisha

Mones don’t always enhance.. Sometimes they BACKFIRE. That’s the problem

Sometimes they attract the WRONG type of person/crowd if your not careful what you put on. Sometimes you have none OD’s. Sometimes you ghost.

Sometimes, you feel burned out the next day as your neurotransmitters get a wicked workout from some of them. Sometimes mixed with cologne or the scent themselves cause allergies to worsen in some people.

I’m not saying mones don’t work , they do. I wouldn’t be buying them for 15 years if I thought they didn’t work. I have over 30-40 mone products in my collection.

If you go on boards like lovescent you will find a lot of people turning to mones because they have low self esteem. Then they wonder why nothing still happens when they wear them and are not successful.

For many people confidence and game is all you need. If your lacking these qualities mones can surely help you get started. But mones can also backfire. I’ve been confident and had good game fantastically on some days only to spray on some mones and OD, or get drugged/stoned off the scent , or have them screw up my allergies only to mess me up with the same women later that day.. had I just run the mojo I would of scored on those days. Get my point?

dsouza

I’d take this side of the argument and say this:

If you have decent amount of game and are relatively confident then stick to some essentials that can only help. A314, A1, IH, IO, IS, and ammo.

I like using pheromones to see slightly different responses from people. For better or for worse I tend to over analyze reactions and people’s responses to me. After taking all of these interpersonal communication classes in college as well as reading more up on body language I’ve been able to ball park gauge a lot of people’s different interests in what I am saying.

I’m a closeted social scientist. What can I say. Use mones for fun just to watch what people say to you differently.

That can happen with many points of attraction not just pheromones. For instance suppose your visually attractive. You can attract the wrong type person. Does that mean you should not maintain and improve your visual attractiveness ?

Withe the correct use of anone you shouldn’t OD or ghost. Yes you have to learn whats works correctly for you as a individual but once you do it should not be a issue.

Again with proper use your neurotransmitters should be fine. It takes time and consistant use without a break to deplete them. Its mentioned many times here to take breaks from wearing them.

I cant say I have ever met someone who truely had an allegic reaction to mones. To perfumes yes but not to the actual mones. People would be allergic to people if this were the case. Is it possible for a person to be allergic to another person and the mones they naturally produce in there own body. I am sure it is but its tremendously rare.

However with this being said if you dont feel they are helping you then by all means dont use them. You do make your own. Pheromones go beyond good game and confidence though. They communicate emotion, who you are and how you interact with the world around you. Eventually you have to go deeper then just Game.

Tisha

To Me Mones are an Advantage… There is Always Someone that is Better at Attraction then You… Even the Guys that Seem to Have it All Lose Out to Someone Else Sometimes… There No Reason NOT to Use Something that Gives You an Edge… Luckily I Live in Such an Area that Few People have Heard of Mones and Far Fewer Use Them…

Dont see why you shouldnt use them if they give you an advantage at all. Bigger advantage the better.

Not saying they don’t give you an advantage, it just that sometimes people think spray on some mones and you will get all you dream off (Marketing hype). If you can spray on mones and not give a damn what your wearing and just go out and be yourself and have good game and confidence then they MAY help MOST of the time.

However, if you don’t have good game and confidence and wear mones, perhaps the only thing that will happen is you’ll get more eye contact, say hi more often, and maybe get a smile (from strangers that is). With confidence and game you can have almost anything. That would build you into an alpha male.

The biggest actors and musicians in the world probably don’t even use mones yet they’ve achieved enormous success. You surely can’t smell their mones on tv can you? They got their through talent, game, and confidence.

If you’re keeping your mind on the big picture (Talent, game, and confidence) and adding mones, more power to you, but from what I’ve seen of beginners most don’t have the big 3 and think mones is going to offer something magical solution to tranform their lives. I see it on lovescent questions all the time. An incorrect assumption.

dsouza

Well I agree with your point that newbies can get that impression both here and on LS but that’s why we are here to set them straight so they understand how mones work and how they can use them to improve whether they have talent. game or confidence or not. Its not about being perfect its about improving your odds no matter where you stand.

Talent game and confidence does not equal alpha. The ability to lead does. Some musicians have it and some dont and its that ability that determines there success no matter how talented they are or not.

Tish

Talent game and confidence may not = alpha, but I’ve never met an alpha who didn’t have talent game and confidence. If you get my IFF point .

dsouza

In my opinion, you want to put everything you can in your favor. That is, what you can control. You can learn “good game,” you can learn to make yourself look your best, you can get yourself in shape to be more physically attractive, etc. You should do all these things. Pheromones are just another thing you can use to make yourself more attractive. So why not do it?

Only reason I can think of to not do it is that mones can get expensive or someone has an “I don’t need that shit” ego going on.

Heres my 2 cents… Your competing on a biological level and tailoring yourself to connect with your intents. I know of some friends that comparatively speaking their bodies are genetically superior to mine in some ways and when it comes to natural pheromone production they always have me beat (I’ve had many instances to compare objectively). Then again there is a type of women that do prefer my signature more :roll_eyes:

With that said consider pheromones a knowledge advantage that you have on your side.

True confidence is a big part of the Alpha aura but I have met plenty with no real talent or game.

Dont get me wrong talent and (in some instances) game is a great thing to have but they are just surface traits. The alpha aura comes from a deeper place. A persons character, integrity, honor and strength. I dont mean strength physically either but that strength you find in a mans character. I think that strength of character produces its own pheromone. I cant say what that pheromone is but you sense it.

Talent and game is something you do and the alpha trait is something you are. I have found that almost all alpha’s I know dont play the “game” they just dont need to. Confidence is definitely one of the big three but not talent and game.

This is why I think that even if you possess those traits you questioned that mones are still a benefit. Its more a matter of finding the right mones to enhance you and give you the edge and even if you have the edge to some degree there is always room to evolve and improve. When we stop doing that we stop existing IMO.

Tisha

I don’t see why not. Though I think Tish has good points, as usual. It’s easier to be congruent as an Alpha if you actually have the confidence to begin with. That comes from within and at that point, you don’t even have to try to be congruent. But as far as pheros go, yea sure. It’s just enhancing an already good thing, though I’d say that having a ton of confidence and at least the ability to talk to women properly will do better than a little confidence and a ton of game.