Hi everyone.
I am Krazy, joined pheromontallk today to receive the $25 freebie lol ! Nah, really to get advice from the GURUS.
I am 29-male Asian origin living in england (u.k). I came across pheromones on the internet by accident while searching for some random stuff about women. At start i was very skeptical about this, because it was presented as a magic potion and sounded too good to be true. So i did not pursue those magic potions. But recently again by accident i found couple of forums where i read reviews of people who had used the pheromone products and found great results. I thought no matter how much i tried to ignore pheromones they kept popping up in front of me by accident and i felt like i was destined to use them.
Like any new user my hopes went higher and higher as i read more about people having great results by using different mones. So i decided to order ‘WOLF’ which was said to be better than A318. i have used wolf starting with 1 spray to the neck and 1 on the wrist. I did not see any changes in myself or people around me. I went to 2 sprays and then 3 and then even 4 at one time but still no results. Generally i have to wear my colognes generously to even smell it myself off my body. Now i am wondering whether its me or the mones are no magic after all.
A little bit about myself: I am a good looking guy so i have been told. Bruce lee’s body well am not as skinny as him but yes i have a muscular body with six pack. height about 5’11. i am generally a shy person with strangers, i would not dare approach and initiate a conversation with a stranger. But if i know someone then i do not have problem making conversation. Women find me attractive but for some reason (I guess lack of smiling) they find it hard to approach me. Most of my Ex-girfriends have told me that they would not approach me because they thought i would simply reject them .
I have been out of the game for quite a while now reason being my long relationship. So i need to re-build my confidence to step back in this field. I want to attract women ages 20 - 35 using mones . I would appreciate everyone’s advice on how to start off again after failing with ‘WOLF’. I want something with good self effects(something that will give me confidence vibe and make me more chattier and make me relax) and something that would make women initiate a conversation with me and make them feel easy to approach me. Something that would make me sexually attractive to them so that they cant keep their hands off me . I am not a big clubber, i usually go to asian house parties, cinema, restaurant, shopping malls. Also i would like suggestion on specific products that work for asian origins.
I can feel my blood running faster than usual in my veins with the thought that i will be getting advice from the GURUz of pheros. Cant wait for the suggestions and try them with the hope for good results and come back to you guys with KRAZY feedback.
Pheros are not a magic potion- Its 90% YOU 10% pheros
You mentioned “I would not dare approach and initiate a conversation with a stranger” This is the first thing you want to change because even if you have great pheros on—if you are away from other people and not talking to them you pheros are a waste.
You have to do some work for the pheros to help you.
You mentioned:
“I want something with good self effects (something that will give me confidence vibe and make me more chattier and make me relax)
And
Something that would make women initiate a conversation with me and make them feel easy to approach me.
And
“Something that would make me sexually attractive to them so that they can’t keep their hands off me”
For ““I want something with good self effects (something that will give me confidence vibe and make me more chattier and make me relax)” I would suggest Instant Shine. This makes you and the people around you feel good/happy. I like this one because people like to be around happy people. Some members report a confidence boost while they wear instant shine.
For “something that would make women initiate a conversation with me and make them feel easy to approach me.” I would suggest Instant Openness. This really helps to open people up to you. It was really helpful to me because it was one of the pheromones that let me know that people actually wanted me to talk to them and it gave me the confidence to approach them.
For “Something that would make me sexually attractive to them so that they can’t keep their hands off me” I think you would like Ammunition. It is a social/sexy product that is used for attraction.
To see my experience with all of the pheromones I just mentioned you can check out my journal titled “my notes”
Hi Clint X2
Thanks for the warm welcome. And also for the detailed analysis of my Post.
I have tried approaching people in the past sometimes its worked mainly due to my good looks (sorry if i am sounding big headed but that is what i was told by those women afterwards) ,i sound quite aggressive instead of playful when approaching someone new. That is why i wanted something with calm down self effect.
You suggested IShine , IOpenness and ammunition, How do you suggest i should use them. All at one time or try one at a time.
Also what is your opinion about A314? Would it be useful for me to try that as i have heard almost everyone having good results with that.
Once again i really appreciate your suggestions and advice.
KRAZY!!!
Hi Krazy - Welcome to Pherotalk.I’ve never used Wolf but do be aware that many phero sellers grossly overstate the effectiveness of their products and some are even total fakes. Thankfully Androtics are not that and the Instant Line is supported by a lot of verifiable info and experience. :)From your description and stated purposes, Ammo and one or other of the socials - Instant Shine, IO, IG or IH would probably be your best bet.Ammo is the quintessential social/sexy/confidence boosting mix.IS - Gives a happy/good to be around impressionIO - Promotes smooth conversationIG - Is a smooth/suave status product but much lighter in effect than A314IH - promotes closeness and bonding.I would strongly suggest you stick to these till you have got the hang of phero use and evaluating responses first.A314 is excellent but a very complex/subtle beast. Attractive and good for LTRs yes but not a sexual product per se. It is much more aimed at projecting/enhancing status in all aspects of your life, particularly work and quality interactions. However, its qualities can work against you when meeting new people as it can make you seem aloof and difficult to approach. Have a read of this thread for all the basics on phero use/choice etc.And Clint is quite right - pheros are only part of the story - to get the best from them, you also need to adopt attractive behaviours, body language, appearance etc - AND make more effort to open/introduce/engage your targets in conversation. After that, it all falls into place.
I don’t know about wolf being better than A314. I read up on it and it sounds good in theory but I loves me some A314 and I’m leery of blowing 50 bucks on a risky product.
It sounds like you’re after pure attraction. I would keep things simple with a combo of Ammo and Shine.
Also a little bit of advice I give to a lot of newbies is try to get your hands on “The Rules of the Game/Style Life Challenge” it’s a 30 day program that addresses both technique and inner game issues follow each daily task and use some mones along side of it and you should see some damn good results.
For example, had a friend of mine do it, he actually went through it twice and got some damn nice results with the ladies. He’s 6’5 and over 300 pounds with a receding hairline. Couple the hair and weight issues with him having had one of his testes removed for cancer and the guy had some serious confidence issues to start with.
You don’t have as many issues to overcome as he did so I think following the same plan should get you some stellar results.
I am not Mufasa but consider me Sarabi the Lion Queen LOL
Welcome to Pherotalk
I am not going to say Wolf is a bad product in fact its pretty good for what its designed for, I wouldn’t say better then A314 because its not the exact same vibe. I think the problem you having is you picked a product that sounded good but didnt fit your needs.
The guys are spot on.
For one Asians dont like heavy aggressive mones so I wouldn’t suggest A314 or Wolf to you especially not with the bolded out needs above. I would not suggest either for a shy man because you need to take the lead with both products.
AMMO or IG for your masculine.
Ishine and IO for your socials .
AMMO for the cool sexy interesting vibe or if your looking for more respect and status go with IG which is less aggressive then A314.
Ishine is warm magnetic charming and draws people to you. IO helps attract and open them up more. These are what you need so put them in your cart first. You already mentioned your a good looking guy so you already have visual attraction going for you. You need to create more interaction.
As for self effects not everyone gets them but those who do report increased confidence. Some products increase it more then others but all of them help in that area if you are one who gets self effects.
Keep in mind with any mone product on the market you have to do some of the work. Pheromones open the door you need to walk through and take action. If anyone tells you otherwise they are misleading you. Pheromones just make it easier they dont make it effortless.
If you need help we are here to guide you. We look forward to your participation in the forum
@mobocaster. Hmmmm i think i will go with ammo, instant shine and instant openness and may be TUTH later. How would you suggest i should wear them? All at the same time ? as i want all three effects at the same time. IO on left wrist, IS on my rught wrist and ammo 1 spray on my gills. Sounds like a good formula?
@Radman. You r making me wanna grab onto a314 but i will take ur good advice and stick to a start with Ammo , IS and IO. But do let me know what quantity n formula worked for u if you have used them. I will also look up the rules of the game/ style life challenge.
Hey Sarabi the Lion queen. Sounds like you are more than just a pretty face. Wink wink. And you understand me so well already looks like we are going to get on very well. I bet i wont b shy around you.
Ahem ahem i will leave the rest for PMs.
Ammo or IG for masculine ? i didnt get that, can you break it down for me.
I look forward to first ordering the 3 products an then using them and then hopefully getting results by overcoming the shyness.
Thanks all
Krazy
Yes I am a bit more then just a pretty face. I am a pheromone expert of sorts. Are you sure that wasnt a typo ? I think you may be a little more sly then shy
! Nah, really to get advice from the GURUS.
which was said to be better than A318. i have used wolf starting with 1 spray to the neck and 1 on the wrist. I did not see any changes in myself or people around me. I went to 2 sprays and then 3 and then even 4 at one time but still no results. Generally i have to wear my colognes generously to even smell it myself off my body. Now i am wondering whether its me or the mones are no magic after all.
well am not as skinny as him but yes i have a muscular body with six pack. height about 5’11. i am generally a shy person with strangers, i would not dare approach and initiate a conversation with a stranger. But if i know someone then i do not have problem making conversation. Women find me attractive but for some reason (I guess lack of smiling) they find it hard to approach me. Most of my Ex-girfriends have told me that they would not approach me because they thought i would simply reject them 
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