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Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Okay, updated list time:
Commercial Products:
A314 - oil
A314/b -spray
Instant Honesty
Instant Openness
AMMO Summer 2012 Edition
Instant Shine

(And From LS, digging through my desk drawer I realize I should really figure out what to do with some of the things I don’t use anymore, maybe trading post, or give them to a friend of mine who I think could benefit from Pheros)
WAGG
NPA
Chikara
Liquid Trust (I agree that it shouldn’t work, by all the science I’ve heard, but there seems to be something to it that isn’t simply beta -nol. I dunno, I like it though)
Perception packet of uselessness
Alter Ego for men sample
Chikara sample gels
Edge Wipe
Some product called “Mistress” that contains female pheros. Little sample bottle

Experimentals & Putatives:

P130 12.5mcg/spray sample in Neroli
**MX297
**P83 5mcg Neroli spray
P83 10mcg Neroli spray
TAA 7.5mcg Grapefruit spray
TAK 5mcg Grapefruit spray
TAC 5mcg Grapefruit spray
P75 5mcg Grapefruit spray
P74 5mcg Grapefruit spray
TAL 12.5mcg Neroli spray
TAH 12.5mcg Neroli spray (this isn’t entirely accurate, the bottle I had was such a hit with a lady friend that I gave it to her, but I’ve ordered another one so it evens out)
P92 12.5mcg Grapefruit spray
P104 12.5mcg Grapefruit spray
And coming soon in the mail - P102 5mcg Neroli spray

*(Also, from LS)
***Beta -nol **Chemset edition.
A1

Miscellaneous:

Perfumer’s alcohol and a variety of different scents and tools for DIY cologne making. (synthetic ambergris, various fragrance notes including Clary Sage, etc)

Some old blends that I made back when I was just mixing together commercial products from LS, before I discovered AD. They are labeled “Magic Feather” and “Sex Panther” - naturally.

Three very special ingredients, two of them related to perfumery and one of them related to some interesting recent developments in biological sciences that I hope to begin studying at some point when I’ve got more time, perhaps in the spring. Whether they relate to pheromones directly or not is hard to say, but one of them has definite potential from what I can tell. I’m not keeping this a secret out of any info-hoarding tendency or anything but I want to do more research before I go spilling my half-baked theories all over the place. (And hell, if I did turn out to be on to something I’d rather give AD a shot at it than their competitors…but I’m not getting my expectations too high on my idle speculations)

Oh, and last but not least, a bottle which contains basically a combination of portions of all the female pheromone samples, sprays, and miscellany that I’ve gotten over the years. I dab a tiny bit on my nose whenever I’m wearing a combo that might make me overly aggressive and it calms me down. Works as a great mood elevator as well.

…so a couple of things about this list, and correspondingly this space. If anyone is reading this (I know a few of you pop in from time to time at least) any requests for testing? I’m still testing P92 for the next few days but I haven’t really done extensive testing of lots of these putatives. I did a little with MX297 but I could do more. It tends to make me anxious sometimes and I gather that it’s a complicated enough mix that it doesn’t blend well for most people. Anyway, I’m open to suggestions, otherwise I’m just going to move through them more or less randomly.

The other thing is, I’m really considering making notes regarding my DIY fragrance making, but I worry that it will fill this journal up with posts that are only tangentially related to pheromones. Suppose I could always start another thread, maybe over in the parfum section of the forum…I may do that when the rest of my supplies arrive.

EDIT:
So one last thing before I sleep, since I’ve been all wired up and posting too much today - I used the excellent A1 guide found here to turn the A1 into a 5mcg spray. To be honest I’m probably not going to mess with it too much as it can cause that depression effect if I wear it too many times too close together, but eventually…

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So I had a tiny amount of TAA left in the bottom of the bottle, just enough that I didn’t feel bad conducting a little experiment with it. I added about 5-6 drops of a professional perfumery fixative to it, one that’s designed to make top and mid notes last longer on the skin…

The end result was that I needed to use about twice as much of it to achieve the same effects, but it seemed to last about 3-3.5 hours instead of the usual 45 minutes to an hour it normally does on me. Very interesting!

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Upon more examination, I’ve got to say that this is not a true observation. It lasts about four hours, but to actually achieve the correct levels of effect I end up using about 2.5 times the amount. Still…very interesting. It doesn’t seem to affect diffusion or sillage, oddly enough, just (I guess) the rate.

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So for work/focus, I’ve updated my standard mix. One drop A314 on my forearms, one spray of IS x1 to my shirt and one to my hair, and then on particularly busy days either P92 (toward the halfway point or I get a crash from it) or P102 (effective but it makes everyone else start working too which makes them less talkative) or both. It’s working out nicely!

On the downside I think I wore A314 around a girl who is a bit younger one too many times, and am stuck in the “role model” box at the moment. I’m going to venture afield and regroup, give her time to forget that signature. Come back with something like Summer Ammo + something.

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I have a friend, female, age 26, who I like to get to smell various pheromones and give me her impressions. I don’t tell her anything about them beforehand, but she’s very good at giving me detailed descriptions of how things make her react. Oddly enough, she’s also very good at giving me descriptions which match up with reported effects of various things, or observed effects of various things - and while it isn’t a double-blind test or anything I’m trying to provide as little prior info or cues as possible. So I recently got her to smell some putatives & mixes, here are her observations collected over several test sessions(for future reference she will be known as Lady K):

P102 - “This makes me hungry and a little sick to my stomach, like pot” (she gets violently ill when exposed to even small amounts of marijuana)

P74 - “This makes me feel more awake, almost a little manic-y. I feel like I could go off on a tangent really easily”

P83 - “Wow, that made me feel disassociated for a second, but now it just makes everything feel a little surreal. I feel a little detached from consequence, I guess. Like they’re still there, but I’m not as worried about them.”

P75 - “Mmmmmm…that smells [grabbed it back from my hand] - this one is complex. I feel like, the person wearing this could protect me. I’m all giggly and girly, it makes me want to wear a dress. You should wear this one by itself around [girl of interest]. But not at work. Definitely not at work, it’s too flirty.” (It also made her pupils dilate and she was blushing.)

Ammunition - “Oh, that smells intimidating. Dangerous. I don’t know why anyone would ever wear that.”

A1 - “That’s…oh, that smells good. It gives me that feeling like just after sex, that [relaxed sigh]. Makes me feel accomplished, confident in a not-pushy way”

MX297 - “That’s weird. At first it smells calming and relaxing, but underneath there’s something that makes me really grit my teeth, like ‘you motherfucker’. That could be bad if you weren’t careful.”

TAH - “Oh I like this. This smells really really really good. [note, Lady K is bisexual] It makes me, um, well it makes me kinda tingle and stuff, y’know, down there. Do you have an extra bottle of that?”

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Awesome descriptions!!

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Oh yeah, she’s quickly becoming my go-to for getting a female perspective on these things. She’s like a pheromone savant. In return, I did give her my extra bottle of TAH - and I made her a little bottle of homemade perfume. :smiley:

(She says the TAH makes her wet, not to be crude - but hey, that’s what the lady says!)

Got a little sample of P130 with my most recent order (I swear AD gets a huge chunk of my disposable income these days) and it’s 5mcg/spray! Aw, you guys rock!

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Would be great if she could compare TAL with TAH :slight_smile:

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Oh man! Totally forgot about that! She had indeed given me a description of that one.

“Definitely doesn’t do what that other one [TAH] does, this one is more comfort. But kind of possessive. Like I don’t want to share my toys.”

(an aside here, anything that reminds her of her mother is going to elicit atypical reactions as they had a really, really rocky history…so if it’s doing that it could color her reactions)

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Based on these descriptions, TAH would be awesome in a sex-mix or attraction mix leading up to sex, to quote tacitus:

I’ve noticed the “teen love in the air” sweet, loving feeling at a dosage between 10-15mcg - any higher and I got a headache, like tacitus mentioned “too much sensory information.”

I’ve been using TAL in the boyfriend mix, and I have noticed a possiveness of the woman, like the woman wanting to know what I’m doing at a certain time, like she’s want to make sure I’m all hers. I guess it brings out the “Alpha” in the woman. I’m going to replace TAL with TAH and see what kind of effects I’ll see, thanks for the ideas!

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No no, thank you! That’s an excellent series of snippets! I’m working on a mix of sorts as well…but I am far behind on testing some of the things I suspect I will need and I’m not going to waste them by using them without knowing what I’m up to.

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Funny story - someone at my job is also a pheromone enthusiast! Don’t know exactly who, but I definitely recognize the telltale smell of Akuto around the office. And on days when I wasn’t wearing it. HAH!

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So I’ve been trying to branch out a little bit. Getting put in the “Daddy” box by the one girl definitely dampened my enthusiasm for my daily A314 wear. Although taking four days off of wearing it I’m really starting to miss it. Between that and a generous mix of socials I’ve been feeling not myself.

So I decided to try something a little different. A shot of IO, a shot of IH, and 2 sprays of 5mcg P75, all to my chest. Then another shot of IS to my chest and one to my hair. I figured this mixture would tone down the P75 enough that I could wear it to work (it was a slow day, where I could get away with experimenting with potentially risky mixes) without much trouble. WRONG! I found myself getting really irritated. I did learn something from it, though - the irritation/aggression caused by P75 is different than -none rage. With -none I’m just angry, short fuse, temper. With P75, I’m irritated, yes, but about things. Scorn for things being done wrong, irritated with minute disappointments, tired of cleaning up others’ messes, etc. -None OD just makes me kind of “I’m better than this bullshit” whereas P75 is more “I expected better from basically everything and everyone”. Basically, if I had to I could control the irritation with P75 better. With P75 I found myself going over events of the recent past with a sense of dismissive frustration. With -none I’m just angry, anything can set me off.

This is not the usual reaction to these things, mind you, just when overdoing it.

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Been a little while. So a few observations - one, I have been really enjoying using P95 at work. By itself or with other things, I was using it because it really helped me focus on work. More to the point, it made time go by much more quickly and with far less impatience. However after a little over a week of it give or take days off, I noticed that I started becoming really introspective. This is not a bad thing, but I’ve begun to realize that part of the reason it has me so focused is because I’m becoming more inward-facing in a manner of speaking. Slightly more introspective, thinking about my reactions, working through some various things floating around my head at the moment, that sort of thing. The season change usually brings out the opposite in me - I get very social around the holidays. I suspect P95 played a role. This could actually be really useful for a one-on-one mix if you’re looking to bond with someone. I notice in a work context that I was relaxed, and had a reduced anxiety level.

Found out that the TAA + fixative stuff I made has some sort of second peak, that’s why it tends to last so long. It dies down over about two and a half hours and then about 45 minutes later (on my skin, on clothes it seems to act much more like TAA usually does) it’s like I reapplied about half the amount, which then wears down over about an hour and a half or so. Interesting, way more difficult to figure out how to apply the right amount for my needs. I’m trying to follow the sweet spot testing routine with an understanding of this odd double peak thing. Pretty fun stuff though, and I’m pretty sure I shouldn’t have any trouble duplicating it.

On A314, I notice that not only are coworkers deferring to me a lot, but getting asked more questions, increasingly being someone that people turn to in order to get my opinion about how best to proceed with various issues that come up. Not bad, I don’t think my contributions would be as recognized without it by a long shot.

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like the journal so far, really good reporting, interested in your testing of p95, I have had similar findings, it definitely is a really relaxing calming molecule, I feel like it helps me clear my mind of the day to day BS and concentrate solely on the job in hand,it actually works very well with A314, don’t want to say too much more before you have tested it properly, but yeah good job, subscribing for more.

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Yes, p95 has rapidly become one of my favorite putatives. Enough so that I’m going to do a full run with it for a week starting next week. I know it won’t give me any trouble at work, so it’s one of the rare ones I can use by itself up there.

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I also ran some of the new putatives I got past my lady friend with the magic nose. I have a lot of observations to type up from that but I thought I would share one observation she had. She said that to her, some of the pheromones are more “active” whereas others are more “interactive”. In other words, she felt that some were more inclined to make her feel different towards the person who would be wearing them whereas some simply effected her mood, kinda just changed the tone of things in general for her. I found that interesting, and kind of similar to something I had read in one thread or another way back in the day.

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As anyone who looks at the timestamps on my posts can tell, I suffer from periodic insomnia. Not usually that big a deal but lately it’s been cramping my style. So, since I have fairly dramatic self-effects from pheromones (and since some of them have definitely had an inhibiting effect on sleep in the past) I’m working on a mix for myself that will help me relax, and sleep.

Mind you, of course this isn’t going to do the job by itself. I also switch all the lights in my bedroom & bathroom to red at night, take melatonin & 5-HTP, play isochronic pulses in the background, etc. Still, anything that helps to take the edge off. A friend gave me an ambien but frankly I’m afraid I’ll come to making a sandwich naked on top of a sinking Volkswagen in the middle of a lake somewhere. (I may have read too much about the rare side effects for my comfort)

I have a prescription that I was told would also be useful for sleep, but it’s way too effective. I tend to sleep for 16+ hours when I take it - not really very handy for me.

Anyway, pheromones that I’ve found relaxing and help me to wind down so far? P74 (5mcg) and TAK (10mcg) right to the front of my neck. I suspect some others (like P104) may be good for this purpose, but I’ve been running enough of a sleep deficit that I haven’t been in the mood to experiment too much since I had the idea.

A314 can be almost sedating at times for me - which is interesting, and something to consider. -None on the other hand gives me awful insomnia. I don’t tend to get angry as quickly as some when on it (and therefore have a higher -none tolerance than some by a decent margin) but it makes it really tough to sleep. Even fairly small amounts of it, which is why it’s a little confusing that A314 is so sedating.

…but then, A314 is a barrel of mysteries. You think you’ve emptied it out, only to find that when you turn back around it’s full of new mysteries. Fascinating product.

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So actually, I did go ahead and add a drop of A314 on my forearms (I tend to sleep with my face close to one forearm or the other) - and between that and all the other steps I’ve taken, my insomnia has broken. I can feel my consciousness retreating, and am going to go and enjoy blissful sleep. Thanks, AD - a different kind of success story, to be sure, but believe me the appreciation is no less heartfelt.

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Been a while. So, I never did get around to typing up Lady Tester’s reports on some of the new putatives, although I’ve mentioned her reaction to P95 in my P95 review here. She really liked it, so did I. She hated P91 though. It made her feel like, as she put it, “we’re cool for right now, but you’re really pushing it.” It also made her say that through clenched teeth, for the record. Said it made her feel like she was expected to prove herself, which made her internal response “who the fuck do you think you are?” Interesting stuff.

In the interest of science, I took a little bit of Instant Shine that was left in the old bottle (when the new bottle arrived) and added a few drops of DPG, and about twelve drops of Glucan P-20 (that’s the fixative I was referring to before, incidentally. It’s not the only trick up my sleeve, but I’ve tested it enough to feel like I have a grip on how its effects on scents behave) As expected, it reduced potency by about 20% but longevity was impressive. Weird, but impressive. Basically, it would come and go all day, for about…8 hours or so? I could tell because I wore it by itself one day, and I would smell it, then not smell it, then smell it, then not smell it…and also because I put on enough to give myself a headache since I wasn’t sure about potency. Same thing - headache would come, and go, and come, and go. Not completely, mind you - it was always present to a certain degree (smell, I mean) but it would suddenly “bloom” every so often, about once an hour or so. This was on my elbows, so lots of movement.